Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

High bike · 22-07-2019 09:07PM

Could a 5 mt old heifer be in heat, went out this morning and 2 weanlings bulls and the Limo bull chasing a heifer around the field??

Albert Johnson · 22-07-2019 09:14PM

Yes it's possible, I've seen heifers calving unexpectedly at 14 and 15 months of age so they had to have been bulling at that age. In my experience AAx, SHx and LMx type heifers seem to mature faster in that regard, rarely see a CHx or other continental showing signs of heat that early. I'd separate out any of my own heifer calves at that age from the bull or strong weanlings for that reason, it's not that common but accidents do happen.

Grueller · 22-07-2019 09:15PM

High bike wrote: »

Could a 5 mt old heifer be in heat, went out this morning and 2 weanlings bulls and the Limo bull chasing a heifer around the field??

Yes. Belgian blue are noted for early puberty at around 5 months

K9 · 22-07-2019 09:16PM

High bike wrote: »

Could a 5 mt old heifer be in heat, went out this morning and 2 weanlings bulls and the Limo bull chasing a heifer around the field??

Had a 5 1/2 month heifer in heat two weeks ago. Out of fifty cent. Earliest I’ve seen

patsy_mccabe · 22-07-2019 09:18PM

I had a 8 month simm heifer bulling a few years back, so 5 months could well be possible.

High bike · 22-07-2019 09:41PM

Got caught with a lady going in calf at 10 mts a few yrs back. But didn’t think it was possible at 5 mts lucky I took her away so.

milligan2 · 22-07-2019 09:53PM

K9 wrote: »

High bike wrote: »

Could a 5 mt old heifer be in heat, went out this morning and 2 weanlings bulls and the Limo bull chasing a heifer around the field??

Had a 5 1/2 month heifer in heat two weeks ago. Out of fifty cent. Earliest I’ve seen

Had one off 50 cent going after 5 months also,serious fertility off that bull

tanko · 22-07-2019 10:05PM

Must be a trait with him, had a fifty cent weanling in the shed all winter. She was almost possessed every three weeks when she was bulling. Had to put her in a pen on her own for two days every time.

Fifty cent calves are very plain tho, he’s not half the bull Lisnacrann Sunnyboy is.

patsy_mccabe · 22-07-2019 10:21PM

ICBF have 50 cent in the top 1% for age at first calving, so you're not imagining it.

Pidae.m · 23-07-2019 05:59AM

I'd a ch heifer born mid Jan bulling last Sun week. I gave her a shot just in case.

Limestone Cowboy · 23-07-2019 03:53PM

Put out the creep feeder yesterday. Hopefully they will figure it out now and start going into it.

patsy_mccabe · 23-07-2019 05:00PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Put out the creep feeder yesterday. Hopefully they will figure it out now and start going into it.

They're savage calves. Are they all out of that char bull?

Muckit · 23-07-2019 07:15PM

Savage calves LC. Great height to them. Great every way really!

AntrimGlens · 23-07-2019 09:10PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Put out the creep feeder yesterday. Hopefully they will figure it out now and start going into it.

They’re as good stock as I’ve seen in a while, fair dues LC. Smashers.

furandfeather · 23-07-2019 09:15PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Put out the creep feeder yesterday. Hopefully they will figure it out now and start going into it.

Great calves. That bull you have is breeding well. Did you notice much of a difference calving the charlaois instead of the limos?

High bike · 23-07-2019 09:41PM

That white bull in the last pic will be some animal

Limestone Cowboy · 23-07-2019 11:04PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

They're savage calves. Are they all out of that char bull?

Ya all out of him.

Limestone Cowboy · 23-07-2019 11:13PM

furandfeather wrote: »

Great calves. That bull you have is breeding well. Did you notice much of a difference calving the charlaois instead of the limos?

Ya there was a big difference in fairness. Had to pull nearly all of the bull calves and had to section one that was coming backwards and upside down. Would probably have managed him if he was coming right. Had to put a head rope on a good few of them aswell. They weren't easy calved anyway but would come at the same time if you could get them straightened up. Great calves to get up and suck though even after a tough pull which really surprised me. Didn't have to put one of the sucking. Its hard to find a balance really. If you want the quality and weight gain I think a lot of them are going to need assistance. Have some nice calves off the lim bull and no problem calving but they are way behind the charolais calves that are the same age.

Limestone Cowboy · 23-07-2019 11:21PM

High bike wrote: »

That white bull in the last pic will be some animal

Born the 7th of March. Had a big pull with him too. He was 230kg a fortnight ago when I weighed them for the beep scheme.

Never wrestle with pigs · 24-07-2019 06:45PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

ICBF have 50 cent in the top 1% for age at first calving, so you're not imagining it.

I have simx Heifers bulling at 5/6 months every year. They are very fertile. What is the top few Lim bulls for the same trait? Cheers

patsy_mccabe · 24-07-2019 07:14PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

I have simx Heifers bulling at 5/6 months every year. They are very fertile. What is the top few Lim bulls for the same trait? Cheers

From ICBF May 2019, reliability over 80%, in desending order. All are 5 Star.

Age at first calving;

KAPRICO ERAVELLE
JOCKEY
CASTLEVIEW GAZELLE
CARROWREAGH HONDURAS
PROCTERS CAVALIER
NEWTOWN BUNTY 1 (ET)
SYMPA
AMPERTAINE ABRACADABRA
ON-DIT
KELTIC HANDSOME
GOLDIES TERENCE
ELITE POPSI ET
WILODGE ENRICO
BROOKLANDS F0959
CASTLEVIEW CASINO (ET)
AMPERTAINE COMMANDER
BROOMFIELD REGENTCEY
OMER-MN
ELDERBERRY GALAHAD
KILSKEAGH HILL 16

Muckit · 24-07-2019 10:04PM

Jaysus whatever about the price of beef, looking at those calves would do a lad good.

Figerty · 24-07-2019 10:29PM

I don't think I've got the hang of this Zero Grazing crack...

Say my name · 24-07-2019 10:46PM

Figerty wrote: »

I don't think I've got the hang of this Zero Grazing crack...

I hope you've no dogs.

Figerty · 24-07-2019 11:02PM

Say my name wrote: »

I hope you've no dogs.

Have dogs with years, been feeding long lawn grass with years.. obviously the dog don't do their stuff there.
Never a problem with the cattle.

tanko · 24-07-2019 11:14PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Ya there was a big difference in fairness. Had to pull nearly all of the bull calves and had to section one that was coming backwards and upside down. Would probably have managed him if he was coming right. Had to put a head rope on a good few of them aswell. They weren't easy calved anyway but would come at the same time if you could get them straightened up. Great calves to get up and suck though even after a tough pull which really surprised me. Didn't have to put one of the sucking. Its hard to find a balance really. If you want the quality and weight gain I think a lot of them are going to need assistance. Have some nice calves off the lim bull and no problem calving but they are way behind the charolais calves that are the same age.

Fair play to you, fantastic stock. With the way the beef game is gone, every calf needs to be a good one. Hopefully they make big bucks.
But having to pull nearly every bull calf sounds like torture to me, seeing the results now makes it seem worthwhile now but it can't have been much fun at calving time.

Limestone Cowboy · 25-07-2019 09:52AM

tanko wrote: »

Fair play to you, fantastic stock. With the way the beef game is gone, every calf needs to be a good one. Hopefully they make big bucks.
But having to pull nearly every bull calf sounds like torture to me, seeing the results now makes it seem worthwhile now but it can't have been much fun at calving time.

It's a balls really. My facility's aren't great either like. Used to calve nearly all of them outside to the lim bulls so it's awkward enough trying to get them in before you start trying to help at all. A lot of my cows wouldn't be massive either which might be another reason. A few mature cows with the pick of those bull calfs were only around 600kg when I weighed them a few weeks ago. They got no hardship on the winterage last year either and I might have them fed a bit too much aswell looking back on it now.

patsy_mccabe · 25-07-2019 11:36AM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

It's a balls really. My facility's aren't great either like. Used to calve nearly all of them outside to the lim bulls so it's awkward enough trying to get them in before you start trying to help at all. A lot of my cows wouldn't be massive either which might be another reason. A few mature cows with the pick of those bull calfs were only around 600kg when I weighed them a few weeks ago. They got no hardship on the winterage last year either and I might have them fed a bit too much aswell looking back on it now.

That's what came to mind when I read it first. The fact that you could pull them all without getting caught would suggest that cows and calves were a little fleshy. Next year might go a lot easier.

Limestone Cowboy · 25-07-2019 12:53PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

That's what came to mind when I read it first. The fact that you could pull them all without getting caught would suggest that cows and calves were a little fleshy. Next year might go a lot easier.

Time will tell. They were fit enough and outside walking all the winter. They didn't seem that fleshy either. Big head and shoulders on them, once the head came there was no bother with them. Any trouble I ever had with the lims was always at the hips.

patsy_mccabe · 26-07-2019 10:43AM

Breakfast is served.

Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

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