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John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399




    https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fifa-and-uefa-write-to-fai


    The Secretary General of FIFA, Fatma Samoura, and the General Secretary of UEFA, Theodore Theodoridis, have today written a joint-communique to the FAI General Manager Noel Mooney.
    In their letter, FIFA and UEFA note that the Minister for Sport requested the FAI President Donal Conway to “withdraw [his] nomination for re-election at the upcoming [ordinary Congress] to allow for new leadership with credible reform credentials, in the best interests of football.”
    The letter continues: “FIFA and UEFA are seriously concerned regarding the aforementioned statement from the Minister for Sport. In this context, we draw your attention to art. 14 par. 1 let. i), 14 par. 3 and art. 19 of the FIFA Statutes as well as to art. 7bis par. 2 and art. 9 par. 1bis let. d of the UEFA Statutes, which oblige all member associations, including the FAI, to manage their affairs independently and without undue influence from any third party.
    “Failure to meet these obligations may lead to sanctions as provided for in the FIFA Statutes and UEFA Statutes respectively, including a possible suspension, even if the third party influence was not the fault of the member association concerned.
    “In this context, we kindly request that you communicate the foregoing to the relevant authorities and keep us closely informed on further developments regarding the matter at hand. We thank you for taking note of the above.”
    The letter to the FAI will be discussed by the Board of the Association at its meeting tomorrow in Meath ahead of the EGM at the Dunboyne Castle Hotel. The letter has been forwarded to Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport Shane Ross.


    Well now that isnt a suprise is it.......wonder how many calls were made to make sure Conway stays on the board.
    If FIFA/UEFA dont want the government involved.....then surely the FAI dont want the tax payers money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    This is the FAI's trump card. They know they can be as arrogant and contemptuous towards the government as they want, and if the government fires back then they can get daddy FIFA to step in and slap them down.

    The FAI are banking on the government to step back once FIFA barks loudly, and sadly I suspect they are right in that prediction.

    I really don't see how things can be improved. They have the sport by the balls and they know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Hopefully the joe and Josephine soaps walk away in huge numbers. Weaken them from the inside out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭secman


    This is the FAI's trump card. They know they can be as arrogant and contemptuous towards the government as they want, and if the government fires back then they can get daddy FIFA to step in and slap them down.

    The FAI are banking on the government to step back once FIFA barks loudly, and sadly I suspect they are right in that prediction.

    I really don't see how things can be improved. They have the sport by the balls and they know it.

    This is sports Ireland trump card, clean your house up FAI or be suspended by FIFA and UEFA


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,819 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I think it's a question of who would people be angry with if ROI was suspended by UEFA/FIFA.

    Right now, the FAI would take the blame, and as long as that's the case, it's not a trump card for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Thinking more about it I doubt that Ireland would get suspended from international competitions by FIFA and UEFA. Didn't UEFA lend money to the FAI to see them through the current times, with funds being held back by SI and the government then the only way for the FAI to make money and pay back UEFA is by playing matches and trying to qualify for tournaments.

    Hopefully someone from government calls their bluff and just tells FIFA and UEFA to go **** yourself and not back down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Ross should have left out the last line of this, not asked Conaway to withdraw but remind him he repeatedly said he wouldn't stand


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    I think the FAI may have thought the threat of suspension from FIFA would ultimately quash the possibility of being forced to toe the line. But they have cocked it up so much that everyone would see a FIFA sanction as the fault of the FAI rather than the Government. I think many would almost welcome a suspension because it wouldn’t increase the pressure on the Government at all, it would actually increase the flak aimed at the FAI.

    If I was Shane Ross I’d sand back a 3 word response, as follows...

    “And? So what?”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    i think most would blame Ross, looks at the comment under articles a lot of distain for Ross despite what FAI head honchos have done, even with this letter i think suspension is unlikely, Ross letter played into FAI hands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,097 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    If FIFA/UEFA have a problem, the state should withdraw all funding for the FAI immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    irishgeo wrote: »
    the media banned from the egm.

    The FAI when you think they couldnt stoop any lower, they somehow manage to do it.

    This may not be a popular angle but I will go back to a previous point I made. I think it is possible that the FAI are between a rock and a hard place at the moment. If the say or do anything in the public domain then they are over a barrel with the legalities on the former CEO. Changes may have to be made to their 'constitution' that would encourage questions that cant be answered at this time.

    Conway's reputation and credibility as an individual and 'leader' of an association is being decimated. Imo the only people that stick are people that have an endgame - smells blood and wants to go in for the kill. Maybe he has been waiting for this for years, hoping that things would catch up on the former CEO. When some similar heat was on the CEO in relation to oddities with Olympic tickets there was a very quick distancing. Conway is doing the opposite which is piquing some intrigue for me.

    He isnt a stupid individual and a times has been exasperated in public - but not so much by questions as the inability for him to answer questions. JD was flanked by his solicitor at the PAC enquiry. He tried to supress all of this (via family court ffs). He has tried to bully even the British media on the rebel song drunken night. This guy is obsessed with abusing the law to wrangle his way through. It is hence plausible that he has the FAI tied up in legal knots. Nothing can be said until all investigations are done and dusted.

    That Conway/FAI sought a private meeting with the Minister for Sport may well have been a 'keep the powder dry' type meeting!?

    The fly in the ointment is the press release on FIFA/UEFA threats which comes across as a direct challange to SI/PAC et al. They didnt need to stick that up on FAI.IE as they did. But some smoke and daggers in play?

    I will hedge my bets that in the months to come all the pieces will fall in to place and the Dick 'Conway' Dastardly at the moment could be the key to saving the FAI a load of cash from a payout to the EVP with green fingers. It currently looks bad for Conway but in time we could be singing his praises!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    If we are relying on Conway to be the savior then we are well and truly ****ed.
    ****ed beyond belief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Zico !


    Fifa on abt government interference this from another corrupt organisation who got paid by the quatar hierarchy to hand a work cup to Qatar. Jokeshop fifa showed delaney how things got done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Having had a few pints and a sleep, I am now in a position to think again....

    1. The state withdrew financial support and the FAI needed a UEFA loan

    2. The FAI are still not being open and indeed are still hiding behind so called audits

    3. Questions are still open regarding criminal charges being pressed.

    As I see it someone within the FAI made a call (maybe Mooney) to try and get the FIFA/UEFA lads to give the government a slap on the wrist for not rolling over and accepting what Conway and his gravy train mates want. If the government are seen to be interfering then very simple solution.....Do not reinstate funding, stop all projects asap and let the FAI work without the tax payers money. It would only be a matter of time until the go belly up.......

    Additionally....anyone who spends money on FAI merchandise or tickets (home or away) should be taken out and shot. These cowboys have to starved of the one thing they all really love....cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Taken out and shot :eek::o

    FAI get nothing from away tickets but not spening money on home tickets /merchandise is a good start.Also should be making it known that all FAI sponsors will be boycotted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    A big issue for the FAI is the withdrawal of grants from SI but possibly an even bigger problem is the money they were to be given from government funds for projects.
    There are a few in the pipeline that could very easily be stopped.
    5m needed for LR for some upgrades for Euro 2020 matches,where will that cash come from if Ross and crew take a hard stance .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Taken out and shot :eek::o

    FAI get nothing from away tickets but not spening money on home tickets /merchandise is a good start.Also should be making it known that all FAI sponsors will be boycotted.
    yabadabado wrote: »
    A big issue for the FAI is the withdrawal of grants from SI but possibly an even bigger problem is the money they were to be given from government funds for projects.
    There are a few in the pipeline that could very easily be stopped.
    5m needed for LR for some upgrades for Euro 2020 matches,where will that cash come from if Ross and crew take a hard stance .


    1. The FAI get publicity from away fans. The fact that so many travel means they have a market for selling sponsorship


    2. 5m will be given by UEFA if needed....just the normal Joe Soap will forget that the money will have to be repaid at a later date


    Fans have to stay away from everything FAI related....additionally they have to express their disgust in the press etc.. If junior football and LOI want to survive they have to start speaking up....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Bar tournaments we dont have large numbers following us away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    More stuff in Sunday's paper about FAI funds being used for JDs 50th birthday party and a piece about how gaurds tried to hack a fans what's app group over fears of protests against our glorious leader, according to the head of security for the FAI.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,097 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Could be what finally finishes him off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭doncarlos


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Could be what finally finishes him off.

    How many times has that been said and he's still around until the next scandal breaks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    More stuff in Sunday's paper about FAI funds being used for JDs 50th birthday party and a piece about how gaurds tried to hack a fans what's app group over fears of protests against our glorious leader, according to the head of security for the FAI.

    Which paper?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Which paper?

    Sunday Times. If you don't subscribe, the front page with the story is viewable on Broadsheet.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,097 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    doncarlos wrote: »
    How many times has that been said and he's still around until the next scandal breaks?

    Looks like there may have been criminal offences committed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,185 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Looks like there may have been criminal offences committed.

    We have been seeing posts like the above on this thread for months now.

    And still nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Zico !


    No sign of him lately is he after leaving the country or what


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,097 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Zico ! wrote: »
    No sign of him lately is he after leaving the country or what

    He knows there’s no way back.

    Stay out of the limelight and keep pocketing that hefty wedge every week while you can!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    https://www.98fm.com/podcasts/98fm-now-that-39-s-what-i-call-sport/donal-conway-refuses-discuss-delaneys-future-fai-egm

    Second half of the interview, which was recorded yesterday evening, is interesting......wonder if Conway feels the same this morning???

    Starting to think its time to up the protests.....emails to committee members and all in cc to the FAI. Fans do not have to accept this muck.

    Futhermore I hope the 2 lads named in the articles take the FAI, Garda and whoever else was involved to the cleaners. Delany and his merry men believe they are a step above the law.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    More stuff in Sunday's paper about FAI funds being used for JDs 50th birthday party and a piece about how gaurds tried to hack a fans what's app group over fears of protests against our glorious leader, according to the head of security for the FAI.


    the article says they were investigating whether he used FAI funds for his 50th, theres no more information backing up the claim, it was a stretch to put it as a headline.


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