John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Irishmale0399 · 16-07-2019 09:32PM

Conway was never going to stand down. He sat beside JD, helped keep him out of the sh1te in the Dáil and has been doing it ever since. He had aided JD in every way possible and obviously wants to stay on to keep control of what may or may not get out. A newly formed FAI board would never hang out the out the new president to dry as it would totally undermine the work they would be trying to do.

Nesta99 · 16-07-2019 10:15PM

The most damning item in the Ross statement is this

"I understand that the upcoming AGM and EGM will consider a large number of amendments to the association's Rulebook, Constitution and Articles of Association. Included in these is a proposal that the quorum for the FAI board be reduced from six to two. This beggars belief".

I would agree with continuity of maybe 2 old board members staying for a spell but if quorum is 2 well whats the point of the entire review and almost a new board if two members can have a meeting and make policy, monetary or generally executive decions for all!?? It really does beggar belief!!

yabadabado · 16-07-2019 10:20PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Conway was never going to stand down. He sat beside JD, helped keep him out of the sh1te in the D and has been doing it ever since. He had aided JD in every way possible and obviously wants to stay on to keep control of what may or may not get out. A newly formed FAI board would never hang out the out the new president to dry as it would totally undermine the work they would be trying to do.

If Conway was never going to stand down it was absolutely beyond stupidity to say otherwise. He should have made a case for himself to get another year rather than giving Ross and SI the run around.
I still dont think the people in FAI realise the position they are in ,they have no ace to deal here.

sydthebeat · 16-07-2019 10:24PM

Nesta99 wrote: »

The most damning item in the Ross statement is this

"I understand that the upcoming AGM and EGM will consider a large number of amendments to the association's Rulebook, Constitution and Articles of Association. Included in these is a proposal that the quorum for the FAI board be reduced from six to two. This beggars belief".

I would agree with continuity of maybe 2 board members but if quorum is 2 well whats the point of the entire review and almost a new board if two members can have a meeting and make policy, monetary or generally executive decions for all!?? It really does beggar belief!!

Beyond belief.... Completely unacceptable.

Their response is completely off the wall as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1063472/

The proposed constitutional change regarding the quorum for the Board states that it shall be two members of the Board of Management or such other number as may be specified in the Rules. The rulebook states that the quorum is six. Therefore, the quorum is six.

I mean, do they not understand the meaning of the word "or"????

It states 2 of the board of management OR other such number as is in the rule book..... So if passed, 2 board members can hold meetings to decide the governance of the FAI.

these guys are compete chancers OR complete idiots OR both

Irishmale0399 · 16-07-2019 10:32PM

yabadabado wrote: »

If Conway was never going to stand down it was absolutely beyond stupidity to say otherwise. He should have made a case for himself to get another year rather than giving Ross and SI the run around.
I still dont think the people in FAI realise the position they are in ,they have no ace to deal here.

He will claim it was not his idea and that the committee, current board, governance group etc. begged im to stay. It will only be to aid the FAI going forward......

The top dogs in the FAI still think they are a step above the law.....thats the only problem they have. It is time that the government and whoever else can come down on them like a tonne of bricks.

Arghus · 16-07-2019 10:46PM

This is going to drag on for years I reckon, they're obviously prepared to dig in and hang on for deal life.

Edit: Bit of a Freudian slip there.

Zebra3 · 16-07-2019 10:55PM

Cut taxpayer funding to the FAI, withdraw support for the FAI co-hosting Euro2020, withdraw support for Euro U21 bid.

Announce that and see how quickly the FAI capitulate. As mentioned above, the FAI have no card to play.

Quandary · 16-07-2019 11:36PM

The level of neck on display by them is quite incredible. The existing board needs to be utterly decimated.

Jim Gazebo · 17-07-2019 02:05AM

Nothing is surprising with the fai. This stuff has been going on for years, Conway and co know no different way of working. 14 years I believe on the board and was a part of everything that went wrong. Shouldn't be anywhere near the new board, for once Shane Ross is right on this one. They have ruined football in this country and seem intent on continuing to do so

17-07-2019 08:00AM

It’s wonderful the way in which the FAI have mismanaged this so thoroughly that, 4 months after the story broke, they are still keeping it on the front page for all the wrong reasons. A child could point out that the Governance Report, while it does recommend that 1 or a maximum of 2 might consider putting themselves forward for a role in the new board, that’s far short of a recommendation that a President, who had indicated he would resign, would stay on in the same role.

If it was possible, they are even more alienated from the Minister and Sport Ireland than they were 3 months ago.

dundalkfc10 · 17-07-2019 10:33AM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I know.

Lord Ross's idea that there should be an entirely new board is so stupid though that even the review group recommended that at least one of the existing board stay on for a year.

Conway has been the one selling the reforms in the roadshows around the country so he's pretty obviously the best one to stay on.

Is that you John?

shanec1928 · 17-07-2019 10:59AM

Nesta99 wrote: »

The most damning item in the Ross statement is this

"I understand that the upcoming AGM and EGM will consider a large number of amendments to the association's Rulebook, Constitution and Articles of Association. Included in these is a proposal that the quorum for the FAI board be reduced from six to two. This beggars belief".

I would agree with continuity of maybe 2 old board members staying for a spell but if quorum is 2 well whats the point of the entire review and almost a new board if two members can have a meeting and make policy, monetary or generally executive decions for all!?? It really does beggar belief!!

all about the transparency:pac::pac:

D14Rugby · 17-07-2019 12:21PM

Just keep holding back money, that's all the ***** care about so starve them of it.

Muahahaha · 17-07-2019 01:42PM

I just cant get over the brass neck of these FAI guys trying to reduce the quorum at meetings from 6 to 2. They are basically trying to install a dictatorship where 2 people control the agenda and direction and the others leave the room and see no evil and hear no evil.

shanec1928 · 17-07-2019 02:54PM

D14Rugby wrote: »

Just keep holding back money, that's all the ***** care about so starve them of it.

looks like its gonna happen, Sports Ireland backing up ross statement

https://www.the42.ie/donal-conway-2-4728302-Jul2019/

MrMusician18 · 17-07-2019 06:23PM

shanec1928 wrote: »

looks like its gonna happen, Sports Ireland backing up ross statement

https://www.the42.ie/donal-conway-2-4728302-Jul2019/

Hopefully this will see Ireland kicked out of competition for political interference.

yabadabado · 17-07-2019 06:25PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Hopefully this will see Ireland kicked out of competition for political interference.

Yeah because its political interference that caused this mess:o

Mr.Nice Guy · 17-07-2019 06:33PM

I would personally put up with a few years of Ireland being banned from international competition if it would sort out those corrupt bastards once and for all.

expectationlost · 17-07-2019 06:52PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Hopefully this will see Ireland kicked out of competition for political interference.

is it interference to remind somebody that they said they'd quit?

MrMusician18 · 17-07-2019 07:17PM

expectationlost wrote: »

is it interference to remind somebody that they said they'd quit?

Ireland needs to be kicked out of competition for real change to happen. Supporters have been letting the FAI away with their behaviour and funding their largesse for years, saying that "the team deserves support" or other such nonsense, when really all it was about was drinking and having the craic on the terrace.

johnnyryan89 · 17-07-2019 07:20PM

expectationlost wrote: »

is it interference to remind somebody that they said they'd quit?

Depends on how FIFA see it. They make the rules and will enforce them whichever way they can, especially if the FAI contacted FIFA to say they were being pressured by the government to make changes. If that were to happen I hope the government don't back down and still keep insisting on change and holding back money until there's change.

kippy · 17-07-2019 08:21PM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Depends on how FIFA see it. They make the rules and will enforce them whichever way they can, especially if the FAI contacted FIFA to say they were being pressured by the government to make changes. If that were to happen I hope the government don't back down and still keep insisting on change and holding back money until there's change.

Why the hell would FIFA ban Ireland from international competition? What kind of optics would that show?

This whole thing is more of a farce than it had originally started as. Absolutely no answers from the FAI around anything, no real knowledge of where exactly John Delaneys employment status currently sits, many reports pending, no sign of ANY changes in how this oranisation works and a complete disregard for the grass roots members of the organisation as well as the taxpayer and political establishment.
The longer this goes on the more of a fudge there is.

If FIFA want to ban Ireland from whatever it is they want to ban us for, for investigating shady practices and shady governance maybe FIFA themselves need to be investigated further by the FBI/CIA/Interpol etc

johnnyryan89 · 17-07-2019 09:15PM

kippy wrote: »

Why the hell would FIFA ban Ireland from international competition? What kind of optics would that show?

This whole thing is more of a farce than it had originally started as. Absolutely no answers from the FAI around anything, no real knowledge of where exactly John Delaneys employment status currently sits, many reports pending, no sign of ANY changes in how this oranisation works and a complete disregard for the grass roots members of the organisation as well as the taxpayer and political establishment.
The longer this goes on the more of a fudge there is.

If FIFA want to ban Ireland from whatever it is they want to ban us for, for investigating shady practices and shady governance maybe FIFA themselves need to be investigated further by the FBI/CIA/Interpol etc

They've banned other countries for government interference, a few African countries but with them I think the government actually did come in and take over the football association. FIFA then threaten you with expulsion from competitions until control is handed back to the people who were running the association.

So doubt FIFA would get involved with Ireland but they are there for associations if they feel that the government are trying to dictate how things are done and your last paragraph sums it up, the devil will look after it's own.

irishgeo · 17-07-2019 09:41PM

the media banned from the egm.

The FAI when you think they couldnt stoop any lower, they somehow manage to do it.

expectationlost · 18-07-2019 12:26AM

expectationlost wrote: »

Ross has written to Conway to remind him that he said he wouldn't stand again https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0716/1063428-ross-writes-to-fai-president-to-withdraw-nomination/ https://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1151173015377498117

re-reading Ross' letter, is it really badly worded why is asking Conway to withdraw his nomination, isn't that up to his nominators, he could withdraw his candidacy? or is Ross using the correct word?

Irishmale0399 · 18-07-2019 11:21AM

https://www.the42.ie/fai-oireachtas-4728710-Jul2019/
"This all happened after Chair Fergus O’Dowd kicked off the meeting with a couple of bombshells. He revealed the FAI rang him on Sunday to offer him a private briefing, which he rejected with an invitation to say what they needed to say in public, before the Committee.

O’Dowd also read out a letter from the Soccer Writers Association of Ireland, flagging the fact that the FAI have denied media access to Saturday’s crucial EGM."

Private meeting with the Chairman of the Sports Committee.......only shows they have no intention of changing. They are still at the same messing.

Only thing fans can do is stay away from international games, stop buying merchandise and more protests. These morons really believe they can push all this to one side and continue. Only thing they understand empty bank accounts. I also hope LOI clubs are clever and insist on all Euro earnings being paid out within 24 hours of reaching the FAI account. My only fear is that the banks will hold the funds as the FAI seem to be close to bankrupt.

If you love football, LOI and school boys/girls leagues.....stay away and stop feeding the FAI and its sponsors.

expectationlost · 19-07-2019 12:28AM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://www.the42.ie/fai-oireachtas-4728710-Jul2019/
"This all happened after Chair Fergus O’Dowd kicked off the meeting with a couple of bombshells. He revealed the FAI rang him on Sunday to offer him a private briefing, which he rejected with an invitation to say what they needed to say in public, before the Committee.

O’Dowd also read out a letter from the Soccer Writers Association of Ireland, flagging the fact that the FAI have denied media access to Saturday’s crucial EGM."

they do this every year https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/fai-agm-leaves-unanswered-questions-413489.html

Tully was one of 99 of those present eligible to vote, not that there anything of significance voted upon. Under Delaney’s tenure, he’s ensured any rule changes are taken care of well in advance at a routine emergency general meeting staged on a weekday in Dublin.

MrMusician18 · 19-07-2019 05:00PM

D14Rugby wrote: »

Just keep holding back money, that's all the ***** care about so starve them of it.

That holds for fans too. No one should buy a jersey or attend an international game until this is resolved satisfactorily.

Irishmale0399 · 19-07-2019 05:05PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That holds for fans too. No one should buy a jersey or attend an international game until this is resolved satisfactorily.

Go watch your local LOI team....they need the support and money more.

D14Rugby · 19-07-2019 05:25PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That holds for fans too. No one should buy a jersey or attend an international game until this is resolved satisfactorily.

Yeah well I meant in general. Approaching a decade now of not giving them a penny (bar via loi), though admittedly got a few free tickets (not from the FAI) for my sins.

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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