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Gemma O'Doherty and her unicorns

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    #842
    droidus
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    lufties wrote: »
    She actually didn't breach them. In so far as there other youtubers with far more controversial opinions and dont get banned. Let's call it as it is, her fan base was growing and the establishment cant handle that. The head of Google in Ireland is connected politically, youd be naive or wilfully ignorant to think something isn't going on in the background.

    She set up a second account whilst her first account was suspended. A clear and undeniable breach of the T&Cs.


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    #843
    lufties
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    droidus wrote: »
    S'funny, cos I thought we currently had arguably the most right wing government in the history of the state and an 'establishment' that is consistently hostile to the left and supportive of the most predatory and damaging aspects of capitalist institutions.

    Communism in Ireland, ok let's see.
    A corporatracy and government abusing power: check
    A disintegrating middle class and increasingly working poor class: check.
    Marxist identity politics being foisted upon the public: check.
    A tyrannical government who push relentlessly propaganda unquestioned or unchallenged by the media: check.
    Free speech quashed: check.

    This is sort of a super communism with dictator varadkar at the helm.


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    #844
    King Mob
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    lufties wrote: »
    Communism in Ireland, ok let's see.
    A corporatracy and government abusing power: check
    A disintegrating middle class and increasingly working poor class: check.
    Marxist identity politics being foisted upon the public: check.
    A tyrannical government who push relentlessly propaganda unquestioned or unchallenged by the media: check.
    Free speech quashed: check.

    This is sort of a super communism with dictator varadkar at the helm.

    Sinister chemicals being sprayed by passing airliners as part of a global decades long conspiracy... Check...


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    #845
    droidus
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    You literally have no idea what communism is do you? For example, under a communist system, there would be no corporations.

    Other than the use of the nazi propaganda term 'cultural marxism', what you are describing there is fascism.


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    #846
    droidus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    communism
    /ˈkɒmjʊnɪz(ə)m/

    noun

    a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.


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    #847
    lufties
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    King Mob wrote: »
    No, it's mad because it's mad.

    Why do you not believe in chemtrails?
    What part of it is convincing enough for you to be open to the possibility?
    Why is Gemma wrong about them?

    I take it you believe that fake mass shootings are a thing?

    Because I work in Aviation and its tightly regulated. However nothing surprises me these days. Why do you you find it so hard to believe why the elites might be poisoning us? Look at our food, poisoned by glyphosate. Fluoride in our water. Ireland has the 3rd highest cancer rate in the world, why is that?
    Blame alcohol abuse? Ok maybe so, but if that is the case why arent drinks companies banned from advertising?

    People need to start thinking deeper.


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    #848
    lufties
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    droidus wrote: »
    You literally have no idea what communism is do you? For example, under a communist system, there would be no corporations.

    Other than the use of the nazi propaganda term 'cultural marxism', what you are describing there is fascism.

    Haha your an absolute nutjob. Corporations have just replaced the state. The bottom line is power is consolidated, mainly with tech companies.


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    #849
    King Mob
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    lufties wrote: »
    Because I work in Aviation and its tightly regulated.
    So why does Gemma think that chemtrails exist?

    Why do you believe in other equally silly conspiracies?
    Maybe if you worked in those industries you would see that they are just as silly as chemtrails?
    lufties wrote: »
    Fluoride in our water. Ireland has the 3rd highest cancer rate in the world, why is that?
    Lol, not helping dismiss the conspiracy theorist image there...
    lufties wrote: »
    People need to start thinking deeper.
    And start believing that chemtrails and fake mass shootings are a thing...:confused:


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    #850
    droidus
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    lufties wrote: »
    Haha your an absolute nutjob. Corporations have just replaced the state. The bottom line is power is consolidated, mainly with tech companies.

    OK, so tell us again how this system is 'communist' considering communism requires the abolishment of private wealth and all corporations?


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    #851
    droidus
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    “Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

    - Benito Mussolini


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    #852
    Seanachai
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    droidus wrote: »
    communism
    /ˈkɒmjʊnɪz(ə)m/

    noun

    a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

    That definition sounds a lot more like Chomsky's libertarian socialism ideal than the actual authoritarian socialism that has existed in reality.


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    #853
    droidus
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    Seanachai wrote: »
    That definition sounds a lot more like Chomsky's libertarian socialism ideal than the actual authoritarian socialism that has existed in reality.

    Chomsky is an Anarcho Syndicalist.

    Communism is also not the same thing as socialism.

    Regardless, it cannot be argued that socialist or communist systems are particularly inimical to the concentration of wealth in private hands.


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    #854
    ohnonotgmail
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    lufties wrote: »
    She actually didn't breach them. In so far as there other youtubers with far more controversial opinions and dont get banned. Let's call it as it is, her fan base was growing and the establishment cant handle that. The head of Google in Ireland is connected politically, youd be naive or wilfully ignorant to think something isn't going on in the background.

    what others do has no relevance to what SHE has done. the controversy of her opinions is not the problem. it is the hatred behind them that is.


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    #855
    lufties
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what others do has no relevance to what SHE has done. the controversy of her opinions is not the problem. it is the hatred behind them that is.

    Yes, the hatred of being a minority in your own country. Import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world.


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    #856
    The Nal
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    lufties wrote: »
    Free speech quashed: check.

    Explain how free speech has be quashed please.


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    #857
    ohnonotgmail
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    lufties wrote: »
    Yes, the hatred of being a minority in your own country. Import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world.

    are we a minority in our own country? i didnt think we were. Of course you wouldn't be stupid enough to go down the great replacement road. who would apart from gemma and her cohort.


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    #858
    lufties
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    droidus wrote: »
    OK, so tell us again how this system is 'communist' considering communism requires the abolishment of private wealth and all corporations?

    Far right and left are the same thing under a different banner. The bottom line is more Irish people are barely making ends meet, while any dissent or questioning is labelled with 'isms'. Marxist thought police. Orwellian style.

    I'm done here, as you cant debate with establishment foot soldiers.


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    #859
    lufties
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    are we a minority in our own country? i didnt think we were. Of course you wouldn't be stupid enough to go down the great replacement road. who would apart from gemma and her cohort.

    Check out stefan molyneux 2040. It's all facts. How I heard it's been banned for Irish viewers. There is no war in Nigeria, Pakistan etc. Irish people will become a minority at this rate.


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    #860
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    lufties wrote: »
    Check out stefan molyneux 2040. It's all facts. How I heard it's been banned for Irish viewers. There is no war in Nigeria, Pakistan etc. Irish people will become a minority at this rate.

    It's actually not.


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    #861
    lufties
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Explain how free speech has be quashed please.

    Gemma being a prime example. Anyone that sticks their head above the parapet gets heated on by the Irish media.


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    #862
    lufties
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    It's actually not.

    It certainly was when it was one of the top trending videos on YouTube


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    #863
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    lufties wrote: »
    Gemma being a prime example. Anyone that sticks their head above the parapet gets heated on by the Irish media.

    It's everyone elses fault except for the person who broke the rules? Love it!! :D


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    #864
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    lufties wrote: »
    Check out stefan molyneux 2040.

    Oh Jesus you've gone full crazy. Never go full crazy.
    lufties wrote: »
    It's all facts. How I heard it's been banned for Irish viewers.

    No its not. Its a terrible documentary though. A joke actually. Preaching to thickos.
    lufties wrote: »
    Gemma being a prime example. Anyone that sticks their head above the parapet gets heated on by the Irish media.

    You haven't answered my question. Explain how free speech has be quashed please. How has Gemmas? She can still use her own personal website and she can stand at the top of Grafton Street spouting nonsense if she wants.

    You seem so unhappy, so afraid.


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    #865
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    lufties wrote: »
    It certainly was when it was one of the top trending videos on YouTube

    I mean it's not all facts.


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    #866
    King Mob
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    lufties wrote: »
    Check out stefan molyneux 2040. It's all facts. How I heard it's been banned for Irish viewers. There is no war in Nigeria, Pakistan etc. Irish people will become a minority at this rate.
    Lol.
    So pretty much the same level of conspiracy theory as chemtrails and fake shootings.


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    #867
    droidus
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    lufties wrote: »
    Far right and left are the same thing under a different banner. The bottom line is more Irish people are barely making ends meet, while any dissent or questioning is labelled with 'isms'. Marxist thought police. Orwellian style.

    I'm done here, as you cant debate with establishment foot soldiers.

    No, they are completely opposed political ideologies.

    With all due respect, your ideas about politics as well as your arguments are incoherent.

    I would suggest that you educate yourself on basic terminology principles and history. The library may be more useful than the extreme right youtube personalities you seem to favour.


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    #868
    The Nal
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    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol.
    So pretty much the same level of conspiracy theory as chemtrails and fake shootings.

    Yup. Exact same. Clone minds. Too much time on Facebook, not enough time traveling, interacting with other people, having fun, seeing the world.

    Easy targets for Gemtrails and the like to make money from. They used to tell people they would get diseases and then sold them snakeoil, nowadays they tell them they'll be invaded by black and brown immigrants and sell them Gemma.

    As for that ridiculous documentary - https://www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-project-ireland-2040-ethnic-irish-4440742-Jan2019/?amp=1

    I feel so sad for people who are so easily lead astray for the financial gain of parasites.


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    #869
    King Mob
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Yup. Exact same. Clone minds. Too much time on Facebook, not enough time traveling, interacting with other people, having fun, seeing the world.

    Easy targets for Gemtrails and the like to make money from. They used to tell people they would get diseases and then sold them snakeoil, nowadays they tell them they'll be invaded by black and brown immigrants and sell them Gemma.
    Nah, they've always said it was the immigrants. Nothing new there. Just more efficient monetization.


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    #870
    lufties
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    droidus wrote: »
    No, they are completely opposed political ideologies.

    With all due respect, your ideas about politics as well as your arguments are incoherent.

    I would suggest that you educate yourself on basic terminology principles and history. The library may be more useful than the extreme right youtube personalities you seem to favour.

    Just know this, you are not counterculture or edgy. You are a useful idiot of the Irish establishment. No courage, just servitude and brainwashed.

    Good luck with that.


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    #871
    droidus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    And good luck to you too! I hope you find that unicorn at the end of the rainbow.


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