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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I had the same issue years ago OP.

    My partner wanted us to buy a house when we were quite young. He was four years older so had a big head start in savings when i wasnt long starting working and was on a starter salary. I wanted to wait a few years before buying a home as we did nothing but save.

    He had a hobby which needed space. He wanted to buy in a bad area as the houses had the space for the hobby (which i hated btw) But I did not want to work hard and live in a rough area. So we bought in a better area, house needed a lot of work but we had no money left. So that was stress.

    Neighbours complained constantly about the hobby. We both got stressed fought and split up.

    The point Im making is that in hindsight, we wanted very different things and it was clear were very different people. It ended badly, with huge costs on solicitors, barristers to untangle everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Just as an aside, the OP's boyfriend is a trained architect - 8+ years in college, and then did a masters 1 1/2 years add on. Thats 10 years + studying. The country is awash with out of work architects none of whom could get employed during the bad years and many of whose businesses went bust leaving many competing for small kitchen extension & conversion jobs. The OPs OH does not want the garage for a business or design studio but to enjoy his hobby .

    After 10 or more years of study and long periods of unemployment I would be worrying about his commitment to his profession and earning a living and alongside that worried about his detatchment from reality in relation to costs and finances. The OP may have been with him for 3 years but perhaps now the crunch is setting in - his unreasonableness in relation to her money is a big red flag, and at this stage of his life where he must be at least in his mid 30's I would be wondering if his reliance on other peoples funding and money and student lifestyle attitude might be so ingrained in him that it will never evolve. Some people are selfish with money and quick to spend anothers. I would agree with a lot of the other posters on this site and wonder why someone whose profession is essentially houses and real estate knowledge can be so out of step or refusing to adknowledge the realities of his profession and be so selfish in relation to the very valid concerns and lifetime savings of his partner. Particularly ones that would have an ongoing negative affect on her quality of life ( loans, financial pressure,livimg in a building site) and ongoing financial hardship for her and impede her life goals and reasonable dreams of a quiet dirt free relaxed comfortable life and a bit of travel.

    For someone who has and is prepared to contribute so little, financially, in empathy and in reality he seems very high maintenance and demanding. In such a poor area for employment as architecture where as an inexperienced graduate competing against architets with 10 or 20 years professional experience I have to wonder how he thinks he is going to add to the table - or perhaps he thinks you are his parents substitute where you will put a roof over his head and pay his way while he comes home from his low paying job at 6 ot 7 pm and goes to his garage and plays with his car for a few hours. Where exactly are you in alll this - or are you just providing the board and lodgings and keeping him in a quality lifestyle like his parents did and facilitating him playing outside in his man playroom before meeting up with him late in the evening as he is turning in for some sex before he goes to sleep.

    Regarding ownership and cohabitating I know several people who bought as the red flags came up and in each case the outcomes were dreadful - the equivalent of having a baby to fix a relationship. Keep saving and keep renting by all means, but dont buy with him. And if you let him move in dont let him do any renovations or extend a garage - he wil end up owning half when the inevitable happens - get a lease and a rent book and do the rent a room scheme with his bills and rent coming to less than the 14k allowance and make sure he has a seperate room . It sounds like a total mess already - dont let love or optimism blind you - your lifes savings, dreams and future is already seriously at risk, and love and optimism and the dream of a happy ever after are leaving you blinkered to what so many others on this thread can see. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Just as an aside, the OP's boyfriend is a trained architect - 8+ years in college, and then did a masters 1 1/2 years add on. Thats 10 years + studying. The country is awash with out of work architects none of whom could get employed during the bad years and many of whose businesses went bust leaving many competing for small kitchen extension & conversion jobs. The OPs OH does not want the garage for a business or design studio but to enjoy his hobby .

    After 10 or more years of study and long periods of unemployment I would be worrying about his commitment to his profession and earning a living and alongside that worried about his detatchment from reality in relation to costs and finances. The OP may have been with him for 3 years but perhaps now the crunch is setting in - his unreasonableness in relation to her money is a big red flag, and at this stage of his life where he must be at least in his mid 30's I would be wondering if his reliance on other peoples funding and money and student lifestyle attitude might be so ingrained in him that it will never evolve. Some people are selfish with money and quick to spend anothers. I would agree with a lot of the other posters on this site and wonder why someone whose profession is essentially houses and real estate knowledge can be so out of step or refusing to adknowledge the realities of his profession and be so selfish in relation to the very valid concerns and lifetime savings of his partner. Particularly ones that would have an ongoing negative affect on her quality of life ( loans, financial pressure,livimg in a building site) and ongoing financial hardship for her and impede her life goals and reasonable dreams of a quiet dirt free relaxed comfortable life and a bit of travel.

    For someone who has and is prepared to contribute so little, financially, in empathy and in reality he seems very high maintenance and demanding. In such a poor area for employment as architecture where as an inexperienced graduate competing against architets with 10 or 20 years professional experience I have to wonder how he thinks he is going to add to the table - or perhaps he thinks you are his parents substitute where you will put a roof over his head and pay his way while he comes home from his low paying job at 6 ot 7 pm and goes to his garage and plays with his car for a few hours. Where exactly are you in alll this - or are you just providing the board and lodgings and keeping him in a quality lifestyle like his parents did and facilitating him playing outside in his man playroom before meeting up with him late in the evening as he is turning in for some sex before he goes to sleep.

    Regarding ownership and cohabitating I know several people who bought as the red flags came up and in each case the outcomes were dreadful - the equivalent of having a baby to fix a relationship. Keep saving and keep renting by all means, but dont buy with him. And if you let him move in dont let him do any renovations or extend a garage - he wil end up owning half when the inevitable happens - get a lease and a rent book and do the rent a room scheme with his bills and rent coming to less than the 14k allowance and make sure he has a seperate room . It sounds like a total mess already - dont let love or optimism blind you - your lifes savings, dreams and future is already seriously at risk, and love and optimism and the dream of a happy ever after are leaving you blinkered to what so many others on this thread can see. :(

    Neither person can afford to buy the house the OP wants without the other.

    Surely having a space to do you hobby would really increase his quality of life

    Not sure using the rent a room system would override his rights to his home if he has contributed to the upkeep or maintenance of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just as an aside, the OP's boyfriend is a trained architect - 8+ years in college, and then did a masters 1 1/2 years add on. Thats 10 years + studying. The country is awash with out of work architects none of whom could get employed during the bad years and many of whose businesses went bust leaving many competing for small kitchen extension & conversion jobs. The OPs OH does not want the garage for a business or design studio but to enjoy his hobby .

    After 10 or more years of study and long periods of unemployment I would be worrying about his commitment to his profession and earning a living and alongside that worried about his detatchment from reality in relation to costs and finances. The OP may have been with him for 3 years but perhaps now the crunch is setting in - his unreasonableness in relation to her money is a big red flag, and at this stage of his life where he must be at least in his mid 30's I would be wondering if his reliance on other peoples funding and money and student lifestyle attitude might be so ingrained in him that it will never evolve. Some people are selfish with money and quick to spend anothers. I would agree with a lot of the other posters on this site and wonder why someone whose profession is essentially houses and real estate knowledge can be so out of step or refusing to adknowledge the realities of his profession and be so selfish in relation to the very valid concerns and lifetime savings of his partner. Particularly ones that would have an ongoing negative affect on her quality of life ( loans, financial pressure,livimg in a building site) and ongoing financial hardship for her and impede her life goals and reasonable dreams of a quiet dirt free relaxed comfortable life and a bit of travel.

    For someone who has and is prepared to contribute so little, financially, in empathy and in reality he seems very high maintenance and demanding. In such a poor area for employment as architecture where as an inexperienced graduate competing against architets with 10 or 20 years professional experience I have to wonder how he thinks he is going to add to the table - or perhaps he thinks you are his parents substitute where you will put a roof over his head and pay his way while he comes home from his low paying job at 6 ot 7 pm and goes to his garage and plays with his car for a few hours. Where exactly are you in alll this - or are you just providing the board and lodgings and keeping him in a quality lifestyle like his parents did and facilitating him playing outside in his man playroom before meeting up with him late in the evening as he is turning in for some sex before he goes to sleep.

    Regarding ownership and cohabitating I know several people who bought as the red flags came up and in each case the outcomes were dreadful - the equivalent of having a baby to fix a relationship. Keep saving and keep renting by all means, but dont buy with him. And if you let him move in dont let him do any renovations or extend a garage - he wil end up owning half when the inevitable happens - get a lease and a rent book and do the rent a room scheme with his bills and rent coming to less than the 14k allowance and make sure he has a seperate room . It sounds like a total mess already - dont let love or optimism blind you - your lifes savings, dreams and future is already seriously at risk, and love and optimism and the dream of a happy ever after are leaving you blinkered to what so many others on this thread can see. :(

    Thank you for your comment but you've based half of your post on inaccurate and hurtful assumptions.

    I said that BF works in architecture - it does not necessarily mean that he is an architect. There are many professions within that industry that are highly skilled, well paid and which do not require 8+ years in college. And when it comes to college; he put himself through it - working and studying - he did not get any help from his parents and certainly did not live a "student lifestyle".

    He is very committed to his profession, imo he is making a good living out of it and receives multiple job offers from Ireland and abroad every month. His salary has been going up each year and will continue improving, hopefully reaching high 60k soon. He's got the hang of saving and is getting his head around various financial matters.

    I would not assume that people working in architecture are experts in houses and real estate. I know many accountants, which happens to be my profession, that are excellent at looking at other people's finances but are absolutely awful at managing their own funds - multiple credit cards, debts, some really bad investments.

    I'm not the bread winner and I'm not planning on being one. Our salaries will be shortly similar, we share all expenses 50/50, we don't fund each others expensive hobbies. However, realistically unless he wins the lotto or inherits a nice lump sum (both scenarios very unlikely), he will never be able to match my savings which at today's date are 10 times higher! I think it's common enough to have unequal deposits but it's more common for a man to have more money than a woman.

    Anyways, for now he's going to look at ways to save more so that we can have more equal deposits. I've communicated it clearly that I will not be putting all my savings into the house. Also, our rent is cheap and with Brexit, trade wars, global economic slowdown there might be no harm in waiting to see how things play out anyway.

    I will continue saving, talk to my Solicitor and review the BF situation in the next few months to see how things are progressing, whether to buy together, on my own or whether to check out for some time and go traveling.

    Thank you for all the comments.

    Moderator - This thread can be closed now - no new ideas generated.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Thread locked at OP's request.

    Thanks & GRMA all who posted.


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