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Trigger wrote: »

The problem is that Pogba has never done it in the PL for a prolonged period of time

Neither has Sanchez, although this could be my Liverpool bias coming to the fore. I actually had Sanchez in my own FF team at the start of last season.
There's a few really surprising omissions at this stage in my opinion.
(just noticed Le Tissier was recently picked he'd have been one)

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Sanchez was brilliant for Arsenal for about 3 years? I dont think there are that many surprising players left out at this stage.

There is one that I am praying makes it make round to me :-)

gimli2112 wrote: »

Neither has Sanchez, although this could be my Liverpool bias coming to the fore. I actually had Sanchez in my own FF team at the start of last season.

I'm no fan of Sanchez right now but he did have 3 very, very good seasons for Arsenal. Best player in the league level seasons.

And thats 3 more than Pogba has had.

Thinking on it, if Sanchez isn't considered to have done it in the PL then neither has Torres and quite a few others who went early in the draft.

bucketybuck wrote: »

2 that I can think of, a real beast of a defender and also a genuinely top class midfielder still not picked.

and two centre forwards

bucketybuck wrote: »

Quite a few attackers, yes. As a random thought, I can think of 3 players nominated for the Ballon d'or that are still not picked!

Now that you say it I can think of 4

But also shows that although peak form is the main element that many are also considering longevity.

Also that the best available player my not be the best suited to people's team/formation. I think of someone just picked the 'highest ranked' player each round they would stand a chance in the draft matches

Thought McAllister would slip through. Nice pick.

Saying Sanchez never cut it consistently in the Premier League is probably the maddest thing I've read on this thread. Unless you mean purely by trophies? Even then he's won 2 FA Cups, not the worst.

He scored 24 in one season (with 10 assists)! 34 goals contributions in one season, there's not many with those types of numbers. And 16 and 13 goals in the two years before so not a flash in the pan season. That's more than enough to constitute a consistent peak imo and his numbers from his best season are better than anything Sterling and Mane have ever done who went much earlier.

Sanchez was a great pick at that stage imo, I strongly considered him but felt I had to strengthen other areas.

Liam O wrote: »

Really? He would have been close to PL player of the year every full season he was at at Arsenal. Scoring plenty and a real force. It's a bit bizarre you'd not know that tbh

Honestly my recollection of Sanchez at Arsenal was one outstanding season and an FA cup game where he scored and no-one celebrated with him. I haven't suggested I'm some kind of remembering genius though

Morzadec wrote: »

Saying Sanchez never cut it consistently in the Premier League is probably the maddest thing I've read on this thread. Unless you mean purely by trophies? Even then he's won 2 FA Cups, not the worst.

He scored 24 in one season (with 10 assists)! 34 goals contributions in one season, there's not many with those types of numbers. And 16 and 13 goals in the two years before so not a flash in the pan season. That's more than enough to constitute a consistent peak imo and his numbers from his best season are better than anything Sterling and Mane have ever done who went much earlier.

Sanchez was a great pick at that stage imo, I strongly considered him but felt I had to strengthen other areas.

That 'peak' season came when the was playing mostly at centre forward though. He has never produced those numbers from the wing and only has a short sample size at centre forward.

Still a very good pick though but the danger is people remember the huge drop off in form she the team isn't built around him

Liam O wrote: »

In fairness, though it shouldn't count towards his judgement in this, his time at Barca he was a 1 in 2 player from the right wing so he's shown he gets goals and produces wherever he plays. That is, until he moved to United

I probably shouldn't be defending other player's picks people are tearing to shreds, could come back to bite me

Thanks for this as the right wing is exactly where I'll be playing him.

And please don't stop hyping Sanchez on my account. Go right ahead.

Although we are judging on peak form it also has to be considered how likely the player is to produce that peak form.

Apologies I don't want to be talking about other people's pick but these 3 players are prob best to use an examples Bale, Giggs and Sanchez. I do y have stats on hand so just going from memory but I would consider the following.

For me Bale is ranked highest. His peak ability is the highest of the 3 (Sanchez May actually have a better peak se asson numbers wise)

Giggs is next best as although his peak numbers might not be as good as the others you are guaranteed a certain level of performance over a considerable period

Sanchez is the last of the 3 - he has the best peak numbers in a team built around him so for me he is less likely to produce than the other two

This still doesn't mean that Sanchez is a bad pick I actually think he is a good pick for were he was gotten in the draft but it's not as sample as saying he got 24 goal and 10 assists I his best season

flying through them now.

Cahill was one that I just didn't trust, but is solid with the right partner.
Dennis Wise just didn't suit me, but again, solid pick.

so much of this is going to come down to balance and the write ups.

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

I dunno, thought he was good last year especially after Xmas but think its risky move compared to some alternates left out there this early. Just doesn't have the longevity for me to even have considered him

Just my opinion though :)

I did consider him too, I think he's undoubtedly a top DM. You'll get many that will know him from his Monaco days and see the Liverpool form as an extension of that and judge him as a top DM. You'll probably get some too though that will acknowledge that he's had a good start but hasn't played enough games to be judged as top class yet however.

I'm guessing it will be a random draw to decide the matchups when all the picks have been made? Will there be brackets or will it be a draw every round? I've never been involved in one of these before.