Full respray cost

mustang68 · 10-07-2019 10:02am #1

Been a while (~9 years) since I got a full respray and the car is in serious need of one, probably needs a few layers sanded off first. So I'm trying to get an idea of costs before I go calling around to garages, I'd be looking at stripping the car myself and would be going for a similar colour.

Its a coupe 68 mustang - Dublin

kadman · 10-07-2019 10:55am

5k+

kdevitt · 10-07-2019 12:05pm

I'm getting quotes at the moment. Generally ranging from 2-3k. One headcase wanted 6k.

Probably going to with a highly recommended guy who does it for about 1.5k. I don't think you need to pay big money to get a decent job.

Max Headroom · 10-07-2019 12:19pm

Full respray for 1500....:eek:

Are we talking engine bay, doors off, glass out etc....5-8k....

kdevitt · 10-07-2019 12:37pm

Max Headroom wrote: »

Full respray for 1500....:eek:

Yep - its a great price. Only downside is that the invoice isn't too impressive when it comes to bragging rights, but the paint job will be good.

Capra · 10-07-2019 1:50pm

kdevitt wrote: »

Yep - its a great price. Only downside is that the invoice isn't too impressive when it comes to bragging rights, but the paint job will be good.

What size car? I'd be very surprised if you get a good job done for that. The amount of time that it takes to rip down and prep a car right would come to €1500 alone. Paint would cost at least €500 plus whatever they charge for doing it themselves. I'd love to see that paint job when it's done. Add on overheads and that guy is either cutting serious corners or doesnt know how to work out his expenses. There is no way you can make money at that rate.

I got an external only respray (including doors, bonnet and bootlid taken off for better access but not painted inside) done and it cost me €3000 and that was a really good price. I can't see how you'd do it any cheaper when I see the amount of time it took.

Why do you think the guy that wanted €6000 is a head case? Maybe the head case is the guy who reckons he can do it for half to a third of what other people are quoting?

jmreire · 10-07-2019 1:59pm

All depends on how much preparation is required......same colour or colour change?? 90 % + of the job will be preparation... actual spraying does not take too long, ares a % of the time it takes. A 100% paint job would entail completely removing everything in the car..engine, gearbox, seats, and stripping the car back to a bare metal shell. Then treating rust, body damaged etc. priming and top coating. This will obviously be the most expensive job, but will be the best one. So it all depends on what kind of job you want done..

Skatedude · 10-07-2019 6:36pm

1500 will get you a paint job, just everything will be masked off instead of being properly removed, trim, glass, lights etc will just be covered in tape. don't expect anything close to a factory finish.

jmreire · 10-07-2019 7:33pm

Skatedude wrote: »

1500 will get you a paint job, just everything will be masked off instead of being properly removed, trim, glass, lights etc will just be covered in tape. don't expect anything close to a factory finish.

No, and if it is a colour change....after a mask off job, (because it's nearly impossible to clean the area's near the masking tape. ) after awhile, it will flake off on the edges, and the original paint will show through. Even if it's the same colour this will happen, and it's a dead giveaway that the vehicle has been painted, Which will affect the value of the car, if you want to sell it. So you might be better off doing a partial respray...see what parts of the paint work can be restored by a good machine compound and polish, and keep the spraying to a minimum.

w124man · 10-07-2019 9:09pm

If you are happy to pay 1500 for a respray then you don't need our advice!

antodeco · 10-07-2019 9:11pm

Have you considered going for a full wrap instead?

swarlb · 10-07-2019 9:15pm

w124man wrote: »

If you are happy to pay 1500 for a respray then you don't need our advice!

You are aware that the 1500 job being talked about is not for the person on here enquiring about the cost of a respray.

w124man · 10-07-2019 9:23pm

swarlb wrote: »

You are aware that the 1500 job being talked about is not for the person on here enquiring about the cost of a respray.

Yeah!

Of course I am.

Yeah.

Kenny Logins · 10-07-2019 9:46pm

mustang68 wrote: »

Been a while (~9 years) since I got a full respray and the car is in serious need of one, probably needs a few layers sanded off first. So I'm trying to get an idea of costs before I go calling around to garages, I'd be looking at stripping the car myself and would be going for a similar colour.

Its a coupe 68 mustang - Dublin

How much did you spend last time, and did you get good value for money on that (considering it needs re-doing now)?

Max Headroom · 10-07-2019 10:59pm

kdevitt wrote: »

Yep - its a great price. Only downside is that the invoice isn't too impressive when it comes to bragging rights, but the paint job will be good.

Go for it...sounds like youre sorted...

Max Headroom · 10-07-2019 11:01pm

swarlb wrote: »

You are aware that the 1500 job being talked about is not for the person on here enquiring about the cost of a respray.

maybe its a mini....:p

mustang68 · 11-07-2019 10:05am

Kenny Logins wrote: »

How much did you spend last time, and did you get good value for money on that (considering it needs re-doing now)?

I think I spent about 2700, it was just over 10 years ago. Did I get good value; I was happy enough at the time, took a few weeks to set and there were some problems that needed touching up, but it looked good.

Recently the clearcoat is giving up all over the roof, pin holes through the paint and around the glass is starting to look rough. The hood and trunk lid are rotting through, so it will be easier to replace and respray then to repair and respray. There isn't anything I can wax/polish put anymore.

I had though about wrapping the car, did my homework on that... that would be great if I was just thinking of a colour change and the paint was good, but any imperfections would be amplified by the wrap.

I'm not looking for cheap, I'm looking for good.

Kenny Logins · 11-07-2019 5:43pm

In that case I think Kadman is on the money with €5k+.

That's what I was seeing when asking around in a similar situation.

kadman · 13-07-2019 4:54pm

I fail to see how you can get a good job done for 1500,

but if you are happy, then go for it. But considering you had issues at 2700

ten years ago, its buyer beware.

Good luck with it.

kdevitt · 13-07-2019 8:29pm

kadman wrote: »

I fail to see how you can get a good job done for 1500,

but if you are happy, then go for it. But considering you had issues at 2700

ten years ago, its buyer beware.

Good luck with it.

I doubt you're in way aware of the full details of that respray unless you're a close friend, but the price on that car really had nothing to do with it. Either way, that car was stripped to more or less a bare shell, all glass out - and they still produced a ****e job after 6 months.

However, my last respray on my E36 turned out excellent - at more or less the same cost. Two different bodyshops, same cost, different results.

Anyway - I got a more firm quote from the guys today, and turns out €1500 was a base quote for a convertible they did. Given the fact mine has a roof - the quote for my touring is €2.5k, which is all glass out, no engine bay, no colour change. That's bang on average with the other quotes I've had. Have seen a good few jobs they've done - including a Qashqai today which just had a full roof replaced, and the work was super.

These guys have been referred to me by four different people whose opinion I trust, I've seen their work - its very good and they're pretty cheap as it happens. Its going in next month for paint with them - so we'll see how it works out.

kadman · 13-07-2019 8:36pm

kdevitt wrote: »

I doubt you're in way aware of the full details of that respray unless you're a close friend, but the price on that car really had nothing to do with it. Either way, that car was stripped to more or less a bare shell, all glass out - and they still produced a ****e job after 6 months.

However, my last respray on my E36 turned out excellent - at more or less the same cost. Two different bodyshops, same cost, different results.

Anyway - I got a more firm quote from the guys today, and turns out €1500 was a base quote for a convertible they did. Given the fact mine has a roof - the quote for my touring is €2.5k, which is all glass out, no engine bay, no colour change. That's bang on average with the other quotes I've had. Have seen a good few jobs they've done - including a Qashqai today which just had a full roof replaced, and the work was super.

These guys have been referred to me by four different people whose opinion I trust, I've seen their work - its very good and they're pretty cheap as it happens. Its going in next month for paint with them - so we'll see how it works out.

Like I said if you are happy then go for it:)

mustang68 · 15-07-2019 3:06pm

kadman wrote: »

I fail to see how you can get a good job done for 1500,

but if you are happy, then go for it. But considering you had issues at 2700

ten years ago, its buyer beware.

Good luck with it.

There seems to be some confusion here, I'm the original poster who was looking for input on price/options for a respray, it was another poster which mentioned that they were happy with their 1500 quote.

So I'm still open to input, my mind is far from made up! Another two questions I have 1) what type of paint, 2K? and 2) considering that it now has three colours on the car will the painter need to go down to metal and is that something I can/should do myself?

jmreire · 15-07-2019 3:37pm

mustang68 wrote: »

There seems to be some confusion here, I'm the original poster who was looking for input on price/options for a respray, it was another poster which mentioned that they were happy with their 1500 quote.

So I'm still open to input, my mind is far from made up! Another two questions I have 1) what type of paint, 2K? and 2) considering that it now has three colours on the car will the painter need to go down to metal and is that something I can/should do myself?

You mention that there are pin holes appearing in the paint, and especially near the window's plus the clear coat is peeling off the roof? Most pinholing is caused by water in the paint during the spraying. Unless there is a very good water extraction / dryer connected to the compressor, minute water particles will mix with the paint being sprayed, and down the road, they will present as pinholes. All horizontal surfaces on a car suffer the worst that the sun can offer...particularly noticeable in red coloured cars. But in both cases, pinholing and peeling, complete strip down to the metal is the only cure, if its not done,,,,then they will re appear after a time. If you are handy with your hands, then there may be a certain amount that you could do, but be advised by whoever will be finishing off the job......if there is a problem after wards, then the blame game will start. Personally, I would let the professionals do the job, from A to Z. They will be able to advise you also on what is the best paint choice for your car, taking everything into account.

kadman · 15-07-2019 5:01pm

mustang68 wrote: »

There seems to be some confusion here, I'm the original poster who was looking for input on price/options for a respray, it was another poster which mentioned that they were happy with their 1500 quote.

So I'm still open to input, my mind is far from made up! Another two questions I have 1) what type of paint, 2K? and 2) considering that it now has three colours on the car will the painter need to go down to metal and is that something I can/should do myself?

I know that you are looking for the quote. And I think a cheap 1500 euro paint job is exactly that, cheap.

You cant buy paint and consumables, and pay for lecky,heat,insurance and apart from labour for 1500 euro. So something is missing.

I,ve seen spray jobs from some of certain marque professionals that were disgraceful, but cost thousands, so you need to do your homework well, and contact previous owners of cars that were done by your man of choice, going back a couple of years.

meathtaxi22 · 05-02-2022 8:02pm

No I'll rather pay more have the job rite if its worth doing do it rite I would pay 2/25.k have it done with a push 3k..

meathtaxi22 · 05-02-2022 8:07pm

There's alot of work goes into a full respary 1500. Is a half job glass out lights out bumbers off doors handles off. change colour 4/5k that's be cheap and job done rite

Neilw · 06-02-2022 5:16am

Peew · 17-02-2022 2:38pm

At the end of this discussion can anyone recommend a decent guy to do this kind of work in Dublin or surrounding counties.

w124man · 19-02-2022 10:07pm

Hannons Crash Repairs outside Bray is okay.

Dineens in Cork City is really good however if you hassle over the price he wont entertain you

Peew · 20-02-2022 3:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118660715#Comment_118660715

Been trying Hannons from before the pandemic, and every time I go back to him he has a reason to tell me to come back in 6 weeks, I was to go back to him in September there but couldn't make it and other things took up my time since.

I plan on giving him another shout soon, but I would expect to be given the usual come back again lark.

Nick84 · 21-02-2022 12:05pm

1500 for a respray, try to imagine how many working hours that actually requires. I doubt anyone can do it properly for this kind of money. I had some quotes last year for around 3500-3700 including sanding off and thought this could be a pretty well-priced service regarding the amount of work that needs to be done. Don't go for the cheapest option. Your car will thank you.

Peew · 21-02-2022 9:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666966#Comment_118666966

Agreed, Which end of the country did you get them quotes if you don't mind me asking.

Was it a case of rubbing down and respraying or was it more detailed like cutting and welding.

w124man · 23-02-2022 10:45pm

This is what a €6000 respray looks like! I reassembled all the chromework, panels and bumpers myself. Everything was removed, glass, everything! I stripped out the interior beforehand so it wouldn't get damaged. There was some welding done on the drivers side sill as well. A LOT of hours went into this! €3500 wouldn't have been enough for a proper job

I've fitted new wheels since this pic was taken.

Neilw · 23-02-2022 11:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118681428#Comment_118681428

Looks very good, do you mind me asking who did the work? PM me if you like, thanks.

Peew · 24-02-2022 12:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118681698#Comment_118681698

Likewise, looks great, would be interested in knowing who did the work.Cheers

Ruamann · 10-04-2022 12:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118681998#Comment_118681998

Same here, would like to know who did it. Thanks.

jmreire · 10-04-2022 1:28am

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It sure turned out to be a fine job, w124man.And so it should @ €6'000. Just imagine what it would have cost had the body shop done all the pre paint stripping, and afterwards re assembly. That would have put another few grand on top. But for sure, now its a lovely looking car, well done!!. ( BTW what mileage is on it? And I presume that its an automatic? Which trans? )

w124man · 10-04-2022 8:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118905183#Comment_118905183

Its a 300SE 6 cylinder auto with 80,000 ish on the clock. She came second in class at the Mercedes Benz Clubs Concours competition last year and featured in an article in the club Gazette

JabbaTheHut · 10-04-2022 9:45pm

That's a beautiful motor. It's a credit to you with all the work and money you put into it.

jmreire · 11-04-2022 12:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118908196#Comment_118908196

80'000 Miles on a SE 300 6 cyl engine, petrol, I presume? Baby...☺️ One of the in-laws had a 1997 w210 MB 300 Diesel which he used in his taxi business. When he bought it, there was 300'000 miles on it ( and he reckoned that it had been clocked ) so he drove it for another 300'000 miles before selling it on. Last he heard, its new owner was well on the way to putting another 100'000 on it. And it was still starting and driving like clockwork. I must ask him if he has heard anything about how it fared out eventually. I googled the Mercedes Benz Clubs Concourse 2021, there was some eyewatering samples of the "Art of Mercedes Benz" there. You did very well to get a 2nd place!! Well done. Any interior pics available?

w124man · 11-04-2022 8:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118909108#Comment_118909108

There are basically three sections to the MB Concours competition, Club Class, Classic Class and Masterclass. I was in the Club class with the 300SE. I entered my 250TD into the Classic Class in 2019 but the 190 beside my car won

They check everything. I mean everything. I'm a judge now in the Club class so I know what they (we) look for. The car has to be as close to how it left the dealer when new. The Masterclass brings detail to a new level altogether. Its not for everyone though

Interior pics of the 300SE

I took the interior out to clean it

saabsaab · 11-04-2022 8:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118589255#Comment_118589255

I got a full respray for 500 and it was a great job too. Mind you it was a few years back and not Dublin.

lomb · 12-04-2022 8:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118587675#Comment_118587675

How can this be done for 450 stg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-OqWSPQMg

I did have a golf 80% sprayed like this for 1500euros to what looks like a good standard. Time will tell I suppose.

lomb · 15-04-2022 9:19am

So did I I had my car 80% resprayed for 1500, the car is only worth that but bought new so will keep forever as it's a nice machine(looks really well now)

I think the flat golf paint is weak. The Metallics don't seem to suffer from peel so I'm guessing the laquer sticks better Tornado or flash red is lovely though