The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

Mickiemcfist · 10-07-2019 11:48AM

ILikeBoats wrote: »

Still not sure about the headlights.

Here's with the m performance bits...

Jesus it's come full circle, BMW are copying Hyundai. That looks like an i30N to my eyes.

tossy · 10-07-2019 11:53AM

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Jesus it's come full circle, BMW are copying Hyundai. That looks like an i30N to my eyes.

There's far too much going on, they are trying to hard to out do the new AMG A class.

ILikeBoats · 10-07-2019 12:07PM

Yeah was thinking it is quite hyundai-ish

carsfan2 · 10-07-2019 12:20PM

tossy wrote: »

There's far too much going on, they are trying to hard to out do the new AMG A class.

Looks better without the M performance bits stuck on.
The m sport plus pack gives nice 20” alloys and it’s more understated. Interior quality looks way better than before too.

Marcusm · 10-07-2019 01:31PM

veetwin wrote: »

Thanks for the info but can’t answer either of your questions or rather I don’t know the answer. It’s a 1.5tsi DSG Highline but I’m guessing the dealer is as clueless as everyone else

In simpler terms, is the delay so long that you won't get the car until January?

veetwin · 10-07-2019 01:50PM

Marcusm wrote: »

In simpler terms, is the delay so long that you won't get the car until January?

Very possible that it will be 2020 at this stage, we have discussed that if it goes into October we wouldn’t register until January.

The PCP thing is complicating things though as her current 162 Golf should go back to the dealer and the payments will stop in July. Now the dealer has said we can hang onto the car until the new one is ready but if that’s October the dealer could look for the car back.

Hebegeebee · 10-07-2019 02:24PM

Personally, I think that looks awful. As has been said above, I thought i30 when I saw it first, only it looks worse!

dastardly00 · 10-07-2019 05:55PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

I think I spotted your car parked along the docks last Saturday. Really stood out, looks great

I was parked near the docks on Saturday so it was probably me. A seagull took a liking (or disliking?

) to it and decided to drop a few bombs. The roof of the car looked like a painter's radio :pac:

MarkN · 10-07-2019 07:15PM

The pricing is a bit mad alright. In 2003 I paid IR£21,000 for a GTI, in 2005 I paid €35,000 for a MKV with 18s. I don’t think an R32 in the V was €60,000 but I’m pretty sure it was around 50-55.

JoeA3 · 10-07-2019 07:53PM

MarkN wrote: »

The pricing is a bit mad alright. In 2003 I paid IR£21,000 for a GTI, in 2005 I paid €35,000 for a MKV with 18s. I don’t think an R32 in the V was €60,000 but I’m pretty sure it was around 50-55.

Yeah it was definitely in the 50k region. You could easily spec up a GTI north of 40k when I bought one in 2007.

kooga · 10-07-2019 08:10PM

2008 price list from when I bought my last new car

ShadowHearth · 10-07-2019 08:50PM

Hebegeebee wrote: »

Personally, I think that looks awful. As has been said above, I thought i30 when I saw it first, only it looks worse!

I really did not like i30 when I sow it first and now, I really really want one. Hatch, not that sport coupe yolk.

As for BMW, I actually like it, I feel that I am too old for cars looking like this, but **** it, I still would.

SaintsYB · 10-07-2019 09:06PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Some more details on the mark 8 gti. Nothing majorly new to report.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-2020-hot-hatch-seen-first-time.

Incidentally I saw the all new BMW m135i x drive is coming in at 50850 euro here with 305 bhp. It is a major step up in appearance from the old one and has the same interior as the new 3. I configured it on the UK website and it looks pretty good and a viable alternative to the R/gti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfZQ70PtirI

Where did you see that the M135i is going to be that price? I thought it would be more in line with the A35 which is €59k. It is slightly cheaper than a S3 Sportback at that price though.

10-07-2019 10:15PM

MarkN wrote: »

The pricing is a bit mad alright. In 2003 I paid IR£21,000 for a GTi..

€ was introduced Jan 2002 iirc....my last few months of retail work :pac:

kooga · 10-07-2019 10:20PM

Augeo wrote: »

€ was introduced Jan 2002 iirc....my last few months of retail work :pac:

I remember a colleague of mine buying a 1.6 A3 103bhp at that time which was the same price as the 1.8t highline golf - sorry I ment to say gti

carsfan2 · 10-07-2019 10:59PM

SaintsYB wrote: »

Where did you see that the M135i is going to be that price? I thought it would be more in line with the A35 which is €59k. It is slightly cheaper than a S3 Sportback at that price though.

Today’s motors section of the Irish Independent has the prices. Article is online too.
I’m sure you still need to spec a few options like m sport plus pack etc. but the driving reviews of the same drivetrain in the x2 m35i have been very positive.

Zubeneschamali · 11-07-2019 09:08AM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Today’s motors section of the Irish Independent has the prices. Article is online too.
I’m sure you still need to spec a few options like m sport plus pack etc. but the driving reviews of the same drivetrain in the x2 m35i have been very positive.

Price? Starts at €32,100 for entry level 118i and ranges to €50,830 for the M135i.

The article mentions an M135i XDrive, not sure if that is the 50K model or dearer again.

carsfan2 · 11-07-2019 09:54AM

The m135i is only available now as x drive and is the top model so don’t see any ambiguity in the article. It’s not up in the BMW website in Ireland but I’m sure a dealer would have the pricing if you want to confirm.

bazz26 · 11-07-2019 10:15AM

If those prices are accurate then the 118i is actually poor value given the power difference.

Phileas Frog · 11-07-2019 10:25AM

I'd suspect the M135i is ex VRT or something?!

Zubeneschamali · 11-07-2019 10:31AM

bazz26 wrote: »

If those prices are accurate then the 118i is actually poor value given the power difference.

Similar to the Golf, pretty much, except the BMW doesn't have the Golfs cheapest 1.0 115 bhp option.

You'll pay the same 50K for a 4WD 300bhp model of either, and 30Kish for a 140-150 bhp 1.5 turbo model.

Wailin · 11-07-2019 10:46AM

It's an improvement over the last model for sure. I can see why some compare it to the I30n, but it's clearly a BMW. That price of 50k for the M135i will be more like 60k once you add a few options like M sport plus etc.

bazz26 · 11-07-2019 10:57AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Similar to the Golf, pretty much, except the BMW doesn't have the Golfs cheapest 1.0 115 bhp option.

You'll pay the same 50K for a 4WD 300bhp model of either, and 30Kish for a 140-150 bhp 1.5 turbo model.

The 1 Series isn't competing directly with a Golf though, it competes with the A3 and the M135i would compete with the S3. A S3 costs a good bit more than a Golf R.

carsfan2 · 11-07-2019 12:50PM

I’ve no reason to doubt the price reported.
Maybe BMW got into a lower vrt band with it than the competition.
Still you will be mid to high fifties when you add a few options so no bargain really but competitive against the opposition.
I specced one up on the UK website as they get the same specs as us and looks like a reasonable basic spec but you will want a few upgrades.
It will be interesting if VW continues to jack up the price when mark 8 comes.

However in reality it is generally easier to get bigger discounts on the golf and the finance offers are traditionally more attractive against the likes of BMW or Mercedes.

SaintsYB · 11-07-2019 12:56PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of the R go up in price once the Mk8 comes out. Even now, the Cupra is 45k which is madness. They used to be a bargain compared to the R even 18 months ago.

DaveyDave · 11-07-2019 01:16PM

The new 1 series is FWD now, correct? I wonder how that will effect the driving experience.

SaintsYB · 11-07-2019 01:19PM

It is indeed. I can't recall exactly what it is but it has some sort of diff (I think) on the front for dealing with understeer so that basically it will be the best handling hot hatch on the market. I saw it in a video by Remove Before Race.

carsfan2 · 11-07-2019 01:28PM

DaveyDave wrote: »

The new 1 series is FWD now, correct? I wonder how that will effect the driving experience.

Most models are but the m135i is 4 wheel drive as standard.

bazz26 · 11-07-2019 02:23PM

It's using a modified version of the MINI platform so fwd versions shouldn't be a disadvantage.

kodirl · 13-07-2019 02:55PM

Folks, does anyone have a vw golf pricelist (Ireland pricelist) from 2016 or 2017 with the clubsport on it?

The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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