We should stop calling the U.K 'England'

dd973 · 09-07-2019 06:22PM #1

There's no English Parliament, national anthem or seat at the U.N, it's often said as well that the 'English should get out of Ireland' referring to the North, it's a constituent part of the U.K, not a country in it's own right. If anybody's under the jackboot of 'The Brits' it's them. At least we've got 85% sovereignty.

Force Carrier · 09-07-2019 06:28PM

You could expand this out into a full online course. In geography and
politics. You might be able to get NUI accreditation.

holyhead · 09-07-2019 06:29PM

Are you bored. Really this is a thread?

Allinall · 09-07-2019 06:29PM

“UKs OUT”

Plastered across the Celtic jersey wearing gob****es wouldn’t garner the same attention.

Junkyard Tom · 09-07-2019 06:31PM

'United Kingdom of Great Britain and not Northern Ireland out of Ireland' uses too much Fenian paint on the wall.

whisky_galore · 09-07-2019 06:56PM

Only simpletons refer to the UK or Britain as 'England' anyway. The same kind of people who refer to a 'road tax'.

janfebmar · 09-07-2019 06:59PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

'United Kingdom of Great Britain and not Northern Ireland out of Ireland' uses too much Fenian paint on the wall.

Do not confuse the fenian painters. They would be claiming for mental confusion next.

touts · 09-07-2019 07:00PM

Sure the English own it all no matter how much their Nordie, Welsh and Scots subjects like to claim they are equal members of something called the United Kingdom.

Silent Running · 09-07-2019 07:04PM

True story: when I lived in Spain, I had a Scottish friend, who went home to visit relatives regularly. It was always funny when she returned. The English people asked her if she was back in England for a visit. She said, "no, Scotland". The English people knew she was a Scot, and was visiting Scotland.

Even the English call the UK England.

Bobblehats · 09-07-2019 07:09PM

U O.K hun?

Pinch Flat · 09-07-2019 07:10PM

Can we not just call it the mainland?

dxhound2005 · 09-07-2019 07:14PM

UKOGBANI.

Your Face · 09-07-2019 07:18PM

We don't say England.
We refer to them as 'Them across the water'

biko · 09-07-2019 07:21PM

I call England England, Wales Wales and Scotland Scotland.
Each country is distinct and has its own merits.

joe40 · 09-07-2019 07:23PM

That is an American thing referring to Britain as England.
Irish people are generally well aware of the distinction, but the dominant voice in British politics is still England.

Ipso · 09-07-2019 07:24PM

Ingerland sounds better.

Force Carrier · 09-07-2019 08:05PM

joe40 wrote: »

That is an American thing referring to Britain as England.
Irish people are generally well aware of the distinction, but the dominant voice in British politics is still England.

No with the Americans everything is Europe. 'We were in Europe. London, Europe.'

Edgware · 09-07-2019 09:39PM

dd973 wrote: »

There's no English Parliament, national anthem or seat at the U.N, it's often said as well that the 'English should get out of Ireland' referring to the North, it's a constituent part of the U.K, not a country in it's own right. If anybody's under the jackboot of 'The Brits' it's them. At least we've got 85% sovereignty.

I'll put down a motion about it at the next Tory Conference

lawred2 · 09-07-2019 09:40PM

dd973 wrote: »

There's no English Parliament, national anthem or seat at the U.N, it's often said as well that the 'English should get out of Ireland' referring to the North, it's a constituent part of the U.K, not a country in it's own right. If anybody's under the jackboot of 'The Brits' it's them. At least we've got 85% sovereignty.

Brill

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 09-07-2019 09:44PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Only simpletons refer to the UK or Britain as 'England' anyway. The same kind of people who refer to a 'road tax'.

Shakespeare did it. Was he a simpleton?

It was very common early in the 20C and before to call Britain, or the U.K., or the Empire England.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 09-07-2019 09:45PM

dd973 wrote: »

There's no English Parliament, national anthem or seat at the U.N, it's often said as well that the 'English should get out of Ireland' referring to the North, it's a constituent part of the U.K, not a country in it's own right. If anybody's under the jackboot of 'The Brits' it's them. At least we've got 85% sovereignty.

U.K. hun?

branie2 · 09-07-2019 09:47PM

England is part of the UK.

Edgware · 09-07-2019 09:50PM

All we need now is Vera Lynn and a blast of There will always be an England

WAW · 09-07-2019 09:57PM

England Prevails!.... Much better ring to it than UK.
We should call it whatever we want OP. It's only when we have to speak professionally that we have to give currently 'correct' ( open to interpretation) names.

odyssey06 · 09-07-2019 09:59PM

Holland is often used when really it's The Netherlands.
When there was a USSR, it was often called Russia.
I think my grandmother sometimes said Prussia rather than Germany (and dickety cause that Kaiser had stolen our word twenty of course)!

It's imprecise but the England \ UK thing is not unique.

Spanish Eyes · 09-07-2019 10:01PM

Without wishing to stir it up at all, I always think of the Brexit vote. It was leave in England and Wales and remain in NI and Scotland.

I doubt the United Kingdom is in any way united at the moment. But we shall see.

English is a term applied to anyone from the UK, but those NOT from England and Wales would not be happy to hear that either! A bit of mess if you ask me.

Atlantic Dawn · 09-07-2019 10:04PM

When it comes from actual media organisations and Gardai it feeds down to the population, similar to the fasssssscccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt lane on a motorway.

Recent example of such thrash...

Chief Supt Roche said gardai had recovered a vehicle with "English registration", which they believe was involved.

https://www.herald.ie/news/gardai-fear-boxer-killed-in-hitandrun-horror-was-targeted-in-attack-38272536.html

They have recovered an English registered black Mitsubishi SUV.

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2019/0701/1059420-limerick-rta/

Larbre34 · 09-07-2019 10:07PM

No point changing it now, the UK will essentially be 'England' by 2030.

Maybe Wales also as they have little prospect alone, but whatevers.

odyssey06 · 09-07-2019 10:10PM

Good job we are the Republic of Ireland or Eire and not Ireland right?

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 09-07-2019 10:14PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

When it comes from actual media organisations and Gardai it feeds down to the population, similar to the fasssssscccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt lane on a motorway.

Recent example of such thrash...

https://www.herald.ie/news/gardai-fear-boxer-killed-in-hitandrun-horror-was-targeted-in-attack-38272536.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2019/0701/1059420-limerick-rta/

I wonder if you can tell an English registration from a Scottish or Northern Irish one.

I say rhetorically.

FrancieBrady · 09-07-2019 10:16PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

When it comes from actual media organisations and Gardai it feeds down to the population, similar to the fasssssscccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt lane on a motorway.

Recent example of such thrash...

https://www.herald.ie/news/gardai-fear-boxer-killed-in-hitandrun-horror-was-targeted-in-attack-38272536.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2019/0701/1059420-limerick-rta/

WV52 is an English reg is it not? W= West of England district.

We should stop calling the U.K 'England'

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