Arthur Ryan founder of Penny's RIP

Woke Hogan · 09-07-2019 04:18PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

You're dead right.

Take the jobs away and let the ****ers starve.

The "****ers" weren't starving before the multinationals came in, stole their lands, and threw them pennies for stitching clothes because they didn't need money living as subsistence farmers.
Now of course massive swatches of the population from developing countries are trapped in serfdom because you don't want to spend a tenner on a Looney Tunes T shirt. I suppose you're one of the people who would call that progress, though, yeah? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

09-07-2019 04:24PM

"Kintar&#333 wrote:

I have worn many Penney's items over the years and found them to be just as durable,

Ah here

Imagine darning a sock from Penneys. You'd put bigger holes in it with your needle and thread than the hole you're mending. Their clothes practically dissolve in the air.

It's disposable clothing, something we're all better off without -- even if it is ridiculously cheap.

Guy:Incognito · 09-07-2019 04:25PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

The "****ers" weren't starving before the multinationals came in, stole their lands, and threw them pennies for stitching clothes because they didn't need money living as subsistence farmers.
Now of course massive swatches of the population from developing countries are trapped in serfdom because you don't want to spend a tenner on a Looney Tunes T shirt. I suppose you're one of the people who would call that progress, though, yeah? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

How much of their land did penneys steal?

Presumably you make all your own clothes?

Woke Hogan · 09-07-2019 04:45PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How much of their land did penneys steal?

Presumably you make all your own clothes?

Penney's may not have stolen land but they have benefited from land being stolen by their suppliers and the use of child labour.

I don't make my own clothes. Like most people, I lack the skillset. I try to shop as ethically as I can however that is rendered virtually impossible by the invasion of these mega retailers invading our high streets, killing off local merchants. Before you yell out "aha!" and start frantically typing out your "WeLL YOU CaN't tAlK ThEn" retort with your tongue sticking out: I am not a hypocrite. It is impossibly to live truly ethically in a capitalist society and as a member of society I am criticising its worse aspects.

Penneys are scum.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1028449/Exposed-Primarks-sweatshops-pay-children-just-60p-day.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/jun/23/primark.children

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/22/india.humanrights

Guy:Incognito · 09-07-2019 04:52PM

As ethically as is convenient I'm sure.

What about whatever device you're posting from?

Woke Hogan · 09-07-2019 05:04PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

As ethically as is convenient I'm sure.

What about whatever device you're posting from?

That's you in the well there.

Guy:Incognito · 09-07-2019 07:11PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

That's you in the well there.

You just keep being woke while you're out and about where people can see it. Good man.

It's impossible to live ethically today , while enjoying the trappings of nice modern western life, that's true.

You can certainly do it without the creature comforts though. But that would be inconvenient.

Very easy to preace at others about how THEY should do better.

TuringBot47 · 09-07-2019 07:48PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Penneys are scum.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1028449/Exposed-Primarks-sweatshops-pay-children-just-60p-day.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/jun/23/primark.children

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/22/india.humanrights

Two of those stories end with Pennys ending contracts with the factories.
What more do you want ?

Unfortunately you are clueless to globalisation.
Indian has a massive uneducated population and Indian people will use their own natural resource of people. Their products will be exported and compete against others.

Same with the Chinese... massive population, so they play to their own strengths.

Anyways, it's not up to an Irish company to police the employment rights of different countries. You're expecting every single order to require a Pennys employee to visit each factory personally assuming they don't hide their true nature to gain a contract.

How many foods do you buy in the supermarket that you dig into their origin?

Fyi: I am not in the retail sector at all.

TuringBot47 · 09-07-2019 07:56PM

rireland wrote: »

Terrible damage done to the environment.

In what way?
Can you quantity the specific pollution and extend?
Or are you just attacking any multinational?

smurfjed · 09-07-2019 08:21PM

May the man RIP.

As for the rest of the ****e above, you really do need to go visit Asia and see what the average salary actually is and how these "pennies per hour" converted into local currencies benefit the local economies.

Kintarō Hattori · 10-07-2019 08:16AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Ah here

Imagine darning a sock from Penneys. You'd put bigger holes in it with your needle and thread than the hole you're mending. Their clothes practically dissolve in the air.

It's disposable clothing, something we're all better off without -- even if it is ridiculously cheap.

Ah now, I was talking more along the lines of shirts and tops.

pgj2015 · 10-07-2019 08:41AM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And it falls apart after the 3rd trip through the washing machine. Total waste of money.

i dont usually shop in pennys but i have a few hoodies from there that i bought in 2013, they are still in great condition.

Bigbagofcans · 10-07-2019 09:54AM

Thx hun xx

10-07-2019 10:15AM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Ah now, I was talking more along the lines of shirts and tops.

I bought a shirt in there once, a few years ago. A grey shirt with white stripes (this will matter later), because I'd just arrived in Dublin for a work event and discovered I'd forgotten to pack a shirt.

The shirt was fine, a bit synthetic and itchy but that's what you get for a tenner. But half way through dinner, I caught sight of my back in the gents bathroom (probably checking out my own arse) and all the stripes at the back had vanished where the chair was rubbing against it. It was like someone had gone at it with a giant eraser.

Anyway, legal question: How do I put a valid claim on this guy's estate? I want my tenner back.

TuringBot47 · 10-07-2019 10:34AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Anyway, legal question: How do I put a valid claim on this guy's estate? I want my tenner back.

The likely reason is you probably had a big wet patch of acidic back sweat eroding the dye.

Arthur Ryan founder of Penny's RIP

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