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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭theintern


    To be honest, the more I read around boards, the less i want to change my car next year.
    I have already mentioned that second hand cupras of 161- 171ish are way over inflated. And by the looks of it, dealers can't keep the stock up. People just buy them at that price. The whole jump in price of new car last year really does not help ( if you are in market for such stuff ) and new increase this year will make it even worse.
    Ironically dealers will tell you any bull**** to make your car look unwanted and very low value, but magically cars in their yard keep their value very well and a lot better cars.
    If you in the market for Cupra, golf GTI or R, you pretty much forced to pay sticker price. If you won't, there is another lad right behind you.

    The way it goes, I hope i30N still stays unpopular and "not cool" as vag stuff, so I can pick one up for under 30k next year.

    When I bought a GTI a couple of months back, I rang after I got the email alert and went down to see it the next day. Apparently I just pipped someone else who arrived in the next morning and was ready to buy on the spot.

    The salesman said this in passing after I'd actually signed the docs and paid for the car, so didn't have much of incentive to lie. But naturally I'd take anything a salesman says with a generous pinch of salt.

    So it seems like anecdotally GTI demand is pretty decent. I'm not sure about R's though, there seem to be a good few available. A few that have been advertised for a little while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭easyvision


    I think GTI demand for the new 7.5 is high, esp DSG, not many floating around. Would love to get into 1 but the price isnt right currently :( not a huge choice in this country. Also does anybody know is it hard to sell a 2015 GTD manual privately hahah. Ive heard to sell anythin over 8k privately can be hard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    theintern wrote: »
    Any experience with this? I'm almost afraid to ask my insurance company for fear it'll trigger some red flag in their systems.

    I have repeat experience in attempting to insure modified cars, rarely too successfully. I do know that 123.ie are generally open to insuring modifications for existing policies/customers as long as you get an engineers report etc... but try and insure one as a new customers and you'll get a straight refusal from them. Other insurers are similar and your best bet is to have an existing relationship with them (the more years the better) and to offer up engineers reports and whatever else you may need to confirm it wasn't a driveway job. If you're adding more power, they'll want bigger brakes etc...

    Ringing your insurer to inquire about a future idea isn't a bad thing, getting the right type of person on the other end of the phone is the difficult part. A lot of the phone staff in most insurers call centres are following a guide and a rather narrow outlook type of guide as well, so if you ask them something out of the ordinary it can sometimes go badly, in a computer says no without any discussion or further investigation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    DaveyDave wrote: »


    I'd happily fly over and pick one up if I could, but being on PCP and looking to continue it probably isn't feasible. I wouldn't expect a main dealer to lift a finger thoughb so will probably just need to play the waiting game and see if one comes up.

    Ah fair point, forgot about the PCP side of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    dar83 wrote: »
    I have repeat experience in attempting to insure modified cars, rarely too successfully. I do know that 123.ie are generally open to insuring modifications for existing policies/customers as long as you get an engineers report etc... but try and insure one as a new customers and you'll get a straight refusal from them. Other insurers are similar and your best bet is to have an existing relationship with them (the more years the better) and to offer up engineers reports and whatever else you may need to confirm it wasn't a driveway job. If you're adding more power, they'll want bigger brakes etc...

    Ringing your insurer to inquire about a future idea isn't a bad thing, getting the right type of person on the other end of the phone is the difficult part. A lot of the phone staff in most insurers call centres are following a guide and a rather narrow outlook type of guide as well, so if you ask them something out of the ordinary it can sometimes go badly, in a computer says no without any discussion or further investigation.
    I've moved to Germany and have modified my car (non issue in Germany). I keep paying for my 123.ie policy for this exact reason. If I come home with the car, once you have an engineers report they will cover it if you are an existing policy holder. Just make sure every mod is covered under the report.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Got a call on Friday to say my car was in transportation and should be here by the end of the month. How long does it take to arrive in the dealers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭kevodaly


    Got a call on Friday to say my car was in transportation and should be here by the end of the month. How long does it take to arrive in the dealers?

    My car finished the build process on a Friday, arrived in Dublin Port the following Tuesday, arrived at the dealers in Waterford on Friday, and I collected it on the following Tuesday!

    Hope that helps - but I think it can differ depending on how busy it is at the port, and where your dealer is located etc. I think I was lucky enough in terms of the time from build week to actually collecting the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    Got a call on Friday to say my car was in transportation and should be here by the end of the month. How long does it take to arrive in the dealers?

    Do you mind me asking when you ordered it? Mrs Vt ordered a 1.5tsi Golf in April and was promised an early July delivery. Phone call from the dealer this week said car wasn't built and he didn't know when it would.

    Also she has to sign a letter to say she understands that the tax and vrt may be higher because of new regulations. They will absorb the vrt through and honour the existing deal done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,814 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    veetwin wrote: »
    Do you mind me asking when you ordered it? Mrs Vt ordered a 1.5tsi Golf in April and was promised an early July delivery. Phone call from the dealer this week said car wasn't built and he didn't know when it would.

    Also she has to sign a letter to say she understands that the tax and vrt may be higher because of new regulations. They will absorb the vrt through and honour the existing deal done.

    If the dealer is going to absorb the VRT why on earth would she sign a letter acknowledging anything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    Marcusm wrote: »
    If the dealer is going to absorb the VRT why on earth would she sign a letter acknowledging anything!

    We have not seen the letter yet as away on hols. I think what they are trying to avoid is customers refusing to take cars they have ordered on the basis that the tax is slightly higher than what they thought. He gave the impression that VW would not build the car unless that had this letter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    veetwin wrote: »
    We have not seen the letter yet as away on hols. I think what they are trying to avoid is customers refusing to take cars they have ordered on the basis that the tax is slightly higher than what they thought. He gave the impression that VW would not build the car unless that had this letter.

    At this stage it's nearly worth waiting for the new model tbh. I know it'll cost more but resale will probably cancel it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    At this stage it's nearly worth waiting for the new model tbh. I know it'll cost more but resale will probably cancel it out.

    We are in a PCP and were happy with the cost to change to a new car and the 0% finance but we will see what pans out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,550 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    veetwin wrote: »
    We are in a PCP and were happy with the cost to change to a new car and the 0% finance but we will see what pans out

    Just be careful going into another PCP deal on a model that will be replaced soon as your equity will drop when you go to trade it in 2 or 3 years time due to it being the old model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 sky18


    I just noticed on the VW website another price increase on the 1st of July its 30 grand for a 1.0 highline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,814 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    veetwin wrote: »
    We have not seen the letter yet as away on hols. I think what they are trying to avoid is customers refusing to take cars they have ordered on the basis that the tax is slightly higher than what they thought. He gave the impression that VW would not build the car unless that had this letter.

    That’s fine for VW but VRT based on WLTP is not coming in until 1 January 2020. Are you expecting that much of a delay? Did the already give you a NEDC2 CO2 level for your spec?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    Marcusm wrote: »
    That’s fine for VW but VRT based on WLTP is not coming in until 1 January 2020. Are you expecting that much of a delay? Did the already give you a NEDC2 CO2 level for your spec?

    Thanks for the info but can’t answer either of your questions or rather I don’t know the answer. It’s a 1.5tsi DSG Highline but I’m guessing the dealer is as clueless as everyone else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


    Are German style plates still a thing? Picking up the R at the weekend and I’m not a fan of the plates on it so looking at options. I haven’t noticed too many with German plates about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,569 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Are German style plates still a thing? Picking up the R at the weekend and I’m not a fan of the plates on it so looking at options. I haven’t noticed too many with German plates about.

    Get pressed aluminum plates with standard font... just my two cents. I got mine from eireplates.com

    (Don't get German font!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


    Are German style plates still a thing? Picking up the R at the weekend and I’m not a fan of the plates on it so looking at options. I haven’t noticed too many with German plates about.

    Get pressed aluminum plates with standard font... just my two cents. I got mine from eireplates.com

    (Don't get German font!)

    Another for pressed plates in standard font, pressed look much smarter than the plastic printed ones the garages usually supply. I’ve ordered a fair few plates from Trevor at Eireplates, always a great job.

    4-B75-D601-1-B8-D-402-B-BAC0-53-F60-BCC6-EAF.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Get pressed aluminum plates with standard font... just my two cents. I got mine from eireplates.com

    (Don't get German font!)

    I think I spotted your car parked along the docks last Saturday. Really stood out, looks great :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,481 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    sky18 wrote: »
    I just noticed on the VW website another price increase on the 1st of July its 30 grand for a 1.0 highline.

    There was a price bump at the end of last year and again the year before. It seems there's an annual VW price bump, and the WLTP pricing isn't even in effect, which will probably bring most cars up 2-3 VRT bands. As if cars weren't expensive enough as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Open to correction but wasn't the R roughly €43k 3 years ago and today there about €50k ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Yeah I think it was probably less than that after discount if you got a manual 3 door with flat paint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    Open to correction but wasn't the R roughly €43k 3 years ago and today there about €50k ?


    and prior to that it was around the €50k mark - the way VW pricing is now going a 1.5tsi golf is nearly the same price as a mark v gti in 2005!

    VW is one expensive premium product now - so much for being the peoples car!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


    kooga wrote: »
    Open to correction but wasn't the R roughly €43k 3 years ago and today there about €50k ?


    and prior to that it was around the €50k mark - the way VW pricing is now going a 1.5tsi golf is nearly the same price as a mark v gti in 2005!

    VW is one expensive premium product now - so much for being the peoples car!
    Wasn't the Mk V Golf R32 60-65k new?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Some more details on the mark 8 gti. Nothing majorly new to report.

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-2020-hot-hatch-seen-first-time.

    Incidentally I saw the all new BMW m135i x drive is coming in at 50850 euro here with 305 bhp. It is a major step up in appearance from the old one and has the same interior as the new 3. I configured it on the UK website and it looks pretty good and a viable alternative to the R/gti.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfZQ70PtirI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    The R started at around 43k for a manual 3 door back in 2015.

    When they launched it originally (early 2014) it was well north of 50k and with a lot less standard kit too. I believe they sold only 2 or 3 of them in total that year, but then in late '14 they did a major revamp of prices and specs across the board and PCP really came into vogue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Some more details on the mark 8 gti. Nothing majorly new to report.

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-2020-hot-hatch-seen-first-time

    Still not sure about the headlights.

    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Incidentally I saw the all new BMW m135i x drive is coming in at 50850 euro here with 305 bhp. It is a major step up in appearance from the old one and has the same interior as the new 3. I configured it on the UK website and it looks pretty good and a viable alternative to the R/gti.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfZQ70PtirI

    Here's with the m performance bits...

    484896.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    Are German style plates still a thing? Picking up the R at the weekend and I’m not a fan of the plates on it so looking at options. I haven’t noticed too many with German plates about.

    Any details on the R ?

    I would agree with the others on pressed metal plates also, held on with some 3M double sided tape. Nice clean look.
    MidMan25 wrote: »
    Wasn't the Mk V Golf R32 60-65k new?

    That's more expensive than an S3 at the time, not sure they were in that price range, i might be wrong though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 sky18


    1 series looks well def going to have a look


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