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kk.man · 15-06-2019 10:22AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

The forward stores would not be FS 3 most were Friesian, FRX or Continental and they needed 50-70 days grass to get into FS3 IMO. As well the smore of the more finished cattle that were HE and AA were not QA so if held 70 days the breed premium and QA were in play as well as a climb in grade. While the price is heading south at present it is not as rapid as normal Junes for a few reasons we are working off a lower base price than normal and it started earlier because of cattle throughput.

There was a lot more younger cattle killed last autumn/early winter compared to previous years and at this stage the kill is 43K higher than 2018 and rising and 63K higher on the 5 year average in a year where the kill is supposed to drop 40-60K below 2018 levels because of exports in 2017 and early 2018. So prices may not keep going south.

Here's fingers crossed.

Bass Reeves · 15-06-2019 11:55AM

kk.man wrote: »

Here's fingers crossed.

Ya it's an inexact science. If there was a suckler or dairy cow cull it could skew numbers but with talks of a suckler reduction scheme lads will try to keep numbers up. Large dairy cull last year so it is unlikely to be much higher this year.

Albert Johnson · 20-06-2019 05:02PM

I was in Castlerea today for a short while, sold 2 bullocks for an uncle. A SIM born September 17, 545kg @ €1270 and a LM born November 17, 605kg @ €1385. He was happy enough with the prices and bullocks seemed to be a good trade all round. They'd have cost circa €800 in April 18 and there comrades were sold back in March.

There wasn't that much stock on offer, I had intended buying a few light weanlings but there was nothing to suit. I've had the flu the last few days so didn't delay that long but there seemed to be plenty of buyers about for all types.

Bass Reeves · 26-06-2019 06:39PM

Anybody in the mart thsi week. Have 350kg Friesians softened. The Indo had it that 3-400kg stores are back over the last 10 day

arctic8dave · 26-06-2019 11:10PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Anybody in the mart thsi week. Have 350kg Friesians softened. The Indo had it that 3-400kg stores are back over the last 10 day

Was at macroom last Saturday & had Jan 18 friesian bullocks 470kgs €800 & Angus bullocks Feb 18 428kgs €825. Don't know what lighter friesian were making as haulier sold mine.

sonnybill · 07-07-2019 10:33PM

Are cattle back in the Mart’s ?

Never wrestle with pigs · 07-07-2019 11:09PM

What are continental cows going like? Have a few 600/700 kg cows that would feed into good size cows. Sell as incalf or to the mart ring for feeding?

Fine Day · 08-07-2019 05:20PM

sonnybill wrote: »

Are cattle back in the Mart’s ?

I was chatting a guy earlier who was at mart today. It was small he noted alot of the usual buyers were not there & any there were there were buying very little. Trade was poor for big stock. Take a fair animal to make €1100.

huey1975 · 08-07-2019 06:41PM

Ballymahon last Thursday. 440kg €1330. 480kg €1350 and 460kg €1280
They were nice Charolais yearlings but it's hard to see a future with them.

Bass Reeves · 08-07-2019 08:06PM

huey1975 wrote: »

Ballymahon last Thursday. 440kg €1330. 480kg €1350 and 460kg €1280
They were nice Charolais yearlings but it's hard to see a future with them.

IF the buyer is replacing stock sold for slaughter its hard to see him have much of a margin over costs, A 400kg DW bullock at present will make about 1550, a 450DW bullock will make about 1750 euro. That leaves a gross margin of 2-400 euro before costs. I have seen cattle advertized on DD at present friesian bullocks 1.8/kg, herefords and AA at 2/kg. Any lad paying that for to replace cattle slaughtered or for slaughterer is losing money. A 350Kg DW Fr (over 700 LW) is not coming into 1200 euro and a 350DW FR or AA is only hitting 1300 euro in the factors and they would be good animals

Fine Day · 08-07-2019 08:24PM

Alot of Brexit talk again also. Giving €3 a kg for stores is madness in the current environment. Will we see over the €4 a kg in the factories again not to mention €4.40 + that were paid out when the market was going well.

Olpiy · 08-07-2019 08:53PM

Theheff wrote: »

Alot of Brexit talk again also. Giving €3 a kg for stores is madness in the current environment. Will we see over the €4 a kg in the factories again not to mention €4.40 + that were paid out when the market was going well.

Eh, Brexit hasn't happened yet. It's just yet another excuse being used by the price fixing monopoly/cartel that controls the beef industry to pay a rubbish price for beef.

Pidae.m · 08-07-2019 08:55PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

huey1975 wrote: »

Ballymahon last Thursday. 440kg €1330. 480kg €1350 and 460kg €1280
They were nice Charolais yearlings but it's hard to see a future with them.

IF the buyer is replacing stock sold for slaughter its hard to see him have much of a margin over costs, A 400kg DW bullock at present will make about 1550, a 450DW bullock will make about 1750 euro. That leaves a gross margin of 2-400 euro before costs. I have seen cattle advertized on DD at present friesian bullocks 1.8/kg, herefords and AA at 2/kg. Any lad paying that for to replace cattle slaughtered or for slaughterer is losing money. A 350Kg DW Fr (over 700 LW) is not coming into 1200 euro and a 350DW FR or AA is only hitting 1300 euro in the factors and they would be good animals

Ya bunch plain but well done fr blks in macroom Saturday 580kg 980....now there was a woeful row over them.

Cavanjack · 08-07-2019 09:35PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

IF the buyer is replacing stock sold for slaughter its hard to see him have much of a margin over costs, A 400kg DW bullock at present will make about 1550, a 450DW bullock will make about 1750 euro. That leaves a gross margin of 2-400 euro before costs. I have seen cattle advertized on DD at present friesian bullocks 1.8/kg, herefords and AA at 2/kg. Any lad paying that for to replace cattle slaughtered or for slaughterer is losing money. A 350Kg DW Fr (over 700 LW) is not coming into 1200 euro and a 350DW FR or AA is only hitting 1300 euro in the factors and they would be good animals

Bullocks back to €3.60. You are being optimistic with Your finished prices I’m afraid.

Albert Johnson · 09-07-2019 10:43AM

huey1975 wrote: »

Ballymahon last Thursday. 440kg €1330. 480kg €1350 and 460kg €1280
They were nice Charolais yearlings but it's hard to see a future with them.

I noticed that myself watching the live stream afterwards, I'm assuming they were the one man's stock and possibly all bought by the same customer. It's a tight touch for them with the way the beef game is going but there's always a few stand out prices in every sale. Having said that the last few bullocks struggled to average €2 a kg for goodish continental cattle only a few minutes later. It's looking like a lot of lads want to buy weanlings or light bullocks and sell back through the ring as forward stores, that won't work en masse unless there's someone left to calve cows and finish cattle.

Hard Knocks · 09-07-2019 11:51AM

What are October 375kg yellow CHX bull weanlings making?

TooOldBoots · 09-07-2019 12:00PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What are October 375kg yellow CHX bull weanlings making?

Not many about yet but all cattle were struggling last week, I saw good stuff like that making less than €950.
They should be worth €1050 - €1150

Albert Johnson · 09-07-2019 01:14PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What are October 375kg yellow CHX bull weanlings making?

I'd be thinking anywhere from €900 to €1050 for average to goodish types although it's a bit early and there's no weanlings about in any great numbers. If you could clinch the €1000 or near enough at those weight's then I wouldn't consider it too bad with the way the trade is at the moment.

Pidae.m · 09-07-2019 06:31PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What are October 375kg yellow CHX bull weanlings making?

Not many about yet but all cattle were struggling last week, I saw good stuff like that making less than €950.
They should be worth €1050 - €1150

Was that gortatlea, the bulls were supposed to be a bad trade we'd night.

milligan2 · 09-07-2019 10:02PM

Weanling sale on in Kenmare last Thursday and it was shocking bad,380 kg CH 900€ and they were classy lads.
Back 100€ in a few weeks

Pidae.m · 09-07-2019 10:11PM

One of the main bull buyers for fattening down here has very little cattle, says he is terrified of brexit in Oct.

Albert Johnson · 09-07-2019 10:14PM

milligan2 wrote: »

Weanling sale on in Kenmare last Thursday and it was shocking bad,380 kg CH 900€ and they were classy lads.
Back 100€ in a few weeks

It's still early for the weanling trade in fairness, confidence in the beef trade has nosedived due to a combination of factors recently and many client's are holding out for longer in an attempt to see what the future has in store. I wouldn't be rushing to sell calves just yet if possible, this is always a funny time of year imo. Lads are flat out at different jobs on a good day and money can be scarce for many, I can't see the back end of the year being any dearer than average but all may not be as bad as forecasted by some.

Sugarbowl · 09-07-2019 10:21PM

I have a June yearling and 2 September weanlings. They all in good order 300kg+.
Am I better selling them now or holding for another month?

mahoney_j · 09-07-2019 10:21PM

Sold a big fr cull cow today in nenagh 690 kg 955 .this cow should of died in February got e coli. list 2 quarters barely ate for 2 weeks lots marbocyl straw Bed fluid pumped to stomach few times joined milking herd again late March (never milked)slowly came back to herself ,not too often u get a good luck story like that

Cavanjack · 09-07-2019 10:29PM

milligan2 wrote: »

Weanling sale on in Kenmare last Thursday and it was shocking bad,380 kg CH 900€ and they were classy lads.
Back 100€ in a few weeks

Finished bullocks back €100 in the factory this last few weeks too. 25cent a kg to be exact and there wasn’t much to be made a few weeks ago.

Limestone Cowboy · 09-07-2019 10:39PM

Bought a cracker of a lim heifer today. 12 months, 380kg, 1060.

Albert Johnson · 09-07-2019 10:50PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Bought a cracker of a lim heifer today. 12 months, 380kg, 1060.

Ennis I assume? What was the trade like in general and much about. Where's the best place in Clare to go for nice shorthorn slips in the back end? It won't happen this year but I'd love to source a few proper SH heifers to bull, there the best cow for the West imo. I seen a few that came out of Clare over the years and they were great cows, easy ran and good mother's.

Limestone Cowboy · 10-07-2019 08:16AM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Ennis I assume? What was the trade like in general and much about. Where's the best place in Clare to go for nice shorthorn slips in the back end? It won't happen this year but I'd love to source a few proper SH heifers to bull, there the best cow for the West imo. I seen a few that came out of Clare over the years and they were great cows, easy ran and good mother's.

Ya ennis. Trade was ok I thought but died off as the sale went on. Was 180 heifers in it, didn't go near the bull ring. There's a shorthorn and shorthorn cross sale in kilfenora at the end of every October and I think they have one in ennis aswell.

Hard Knocks · 10-07-2019 08:20AM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Ennis I assume? What was the trade like in general and much about. Where's the best place in Clare to go for nice shorthorn slips in the back end? It won't happen this year but I'd love to source a few proper SH heifers to bull, there the best cow for the West imo. I seen a few that came out of Clare over the years and they were great cows, easy ran and good mother's.

Remember my father and a few others buying shorthorn heifers in the mid 90’s
We’d 4, 1 blue & 3 roan
Great cows but as heifers they’d climb a quarry face & jump 3 strand of wire

kk.man · 10-07-2019 09:04AM

Pidae.m wrote: »

One of the main bull buyers for fattening down here has very little cattle, says he is terrified of brexit in Oct.

Having no bulls makes sense but little cattle doesn't. Reducing cattle in big numbers will have an consequence for tax returns. Maybe he lost his shirt as did many finishing bulls this winter/spring.

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