RAW Superthread

CastorTroy wrote: »

Corey saying "holy sh!t", Maria calling Mike her "b!tch", the pregnancy thing. It is like they're trying to be edgier for whatever reason. Is it because of Heyman, a reaction to AEW or just trying something new/old?

It'd be some indictment of the way RAW's been written for the last 10 or so years if Heyman suggested that Graves say, "Holy ****" in order to give the product a bit of edge.

Not that it would necessarily be an indictment of the writers, because a good number of them could have been wrestling fans who constantly pitched good stuff, but it just never got OK'd. It would be more an indictment of the whole creative machine, led by Vince.

I never understood why it was thought that a team of writers were needed, anyway. It was such a deviation from the way WWE had always written their television before, and that was proven to work, i.e. a small booking committee of 1-3 people like Vince & Pat, Vince & Vince, Vince & Cornette & Prichard, Vince & Heyman circa 200x, Vince & Brian Gerwitz. A small creative nucleus has always been more efficient where it consists of people who Vince would actually trust and respect the opinion of, because I'd be very surprised if he truly respected the opinion of all those TV writers he hired in the last decade. I'd say it's far more likely that he regards them as disposable sources of ideas.

Maybe McMahon would say, "We have more talent, now, so we need more writers." The gas thing about that being that Russo & Ferrara used to be able to have something for each guy on the show every week, to have them in a meaningful storyline, while Vince and a team of anonymous TV writers couldn't or didn't want to come up with anything for anyone outside of the main event.

If nothing else, you would hope that Vince and Heyman working together would represent a pivot back toward how a wrestling show has traditionally been (and imo should be) written. Sack all those just-out-of-college, failed-soap-opera-writer yes-men, or confine them strictly to Total Divas and all of the WWE's other ancillary programming.

lawlolawl wrote: »

The problem with all that is that traditional wrestling booking/story writing isn't what got them their billion of dollars worth of TV deals.


Will the new networks want something other than TV-PG, low-cost primetime filler?


Will guys who were last successful in the early 2000s be able to write stuff that will connect with a present day audience?


The odd swear word and bizarre cuckolding story-line probably isn't going to get it done when you still have the same tepid WWE style matches with the same handful of guys making up most of the programming.

What the WWE have been doing recently may cause them to lose those TV deals as well. Especially now that there is some sort of viable competition on the horizon to do business with.

If the WWE can deliver increasing ratings for their networks, that's really the bottom line.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Seth and Becky teaming up tonight

I'll pass.

Gonna try stay up to watch it, Andre v Rollins piqued my interest! And they are opening so thats sweet

Looking at the matches for Extreme Rules, unless something changes on Raw or Smackdown, out of the 8 planned matches only 1 is in any way extreme

Good opening match. Always nice to see Andrade get air time to impress.

lawlolawl wrote: »

I thought this PPV was at least a couple of weeks away due to zero build but it is apparently this weekend.


So, it'll just be a bunch of rematches from this weeks Raw and Smackdown and someone will take a chair-shot and/or go through a table?



Gripping stuff.

Hopefully it's a chair to the back of the head,right?

Omackeral wrote: »

Lads, they're honestly calling Rey Mysterio The Greatest Mask in WWE History. That's a nickname they are going with. It was said multiple times. My lord that's bad.

He had a G.M.O.A.T. t-shirt for a while, maybe just before he resigned he started using the name. Stands for greatest mask of all time & is a really bad nickname

https://customtees.wwe.com/products/rey-mysterio-g-m-o-a-t-unisex-t-shirt

Drake giving every short bloke a sign of hope getting Renee

They've seen what HHH has down with NXT. They've seen how fans absolutely love it. Would it not make more sense to give him the reigns 100% on at least one show rather than going back to the same guys that have been running things on and off for nearly 40 years now?

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Also. Why was Becky standing on the ring after she beat Selina? They said that women couldn't wrestle the men, so what was she waiting for?

I was wondering that as well. What's the sense in a tag team elimination match if eliminating 1 person renders the person of the same gender obsolete on the other team.
Meant to say last week, how did Becky and Seth win by Becky making Mike tap? She wasn't the legal man.

So my understanding of this Bayley/Nikki thing is that Nikki is the face and Bayley is the heel. Dana hiding outside the ring and joking with Bayley is a very heelish move.

Surprised the 24/7 thing happened during the Raiders match and not Cesaro's, though what was the deal with Truth in there?
And if they're trying to avoid losing their title, why does the 24/7 champion go to Raw and Smackdown? Going by Renee's reaction/Drake's announcement, he didn't have to be there.