WereWolf: A 13 player Seer game

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 07:31PM

Okay, a quick ISO, and I agree you did switch around. Actually, I should have remembered as you and Duff were the two to vote outside your FFAs and not for those in the race.

Some interesting stuff here:

Whiplashy wrote: »

#FFA1 ( I apologize to all 3, my reasons are flimsy but there’s not much to go on)

QB seems like she’s been trying unsuccessfully to start a wagon on G&R. I don’t find his posts wolfie so can’t see where she’s coming from.

Clara sorry but joking or not you said you’re a wolf. I admit it would be a ballsy move for a wolf, but that could just be what you want us to think.

Tusk you say there’s not a wolf in the running because there’s no chaos, but yet you seem to be trying to cause chaos with you’re ever changing ffa’s.

Never answered me on this:

quickbeam wrote: »

I'm not. My vote isn't even on him. If you look back anything accusatory I posted was in response to his in the first place. Starting with him asking who I voted for. I had and wasn't going to say until he asked.

Whiplashy wrote: »

I’ve put in a vote already but willing to change if that’s what the majority want. I will point out just to be petty that anytime I’ve brought up how we’re going to vote in previous games I’ve been accused of being a wolf for it for some reason so I’m p****d off no ones accusing Sulli! (I don’t think you’re a wolf Sulli it’s just always annoyed me that gets used against me!)

Whiplashy wrote: »

I’m happy to move too if there’s enough on her.

Whiplashy wrote: »

For the purpose of clarity when we’re analyzing the votes later, I’ve not actually voted for strawbs yet I was waiting to see if she’d mount a defense. I’m currently on QB. I’ll almost certainly change I’m just not 100% who yet.

Whiplashy wrote: »

Strawbs is right. I’m leaving my vote on QB.

I wouldn’t buy Sulli as a wolf at the moment.

Possibly calling out fellow wolf:

Whiplashy wrote: »

He’s been really flying under the radar. Any reason we shouldn’t lynch you duffer?

Whiplashy wrote: »

Not a f*****g clue who to vote for

Whiplashy wrote: »

Out of kitten and Clara I’d vote kitten, even though Clara was on my ffa

Whiplashy wrote: »

I’ve changed my vote to kitten

Whiplashy wrote: »

Desperation. I don’t know where to vote. I have G&R, Sully & Trit as village, and the rest of you I haven’t a clue.

In answer to Trit, this is the reason she voted Kitten:

Whiplashy wrote: »

She did genie earlier which isn’t usually a good sign.

Whiplashy wrote: »

I think at least 1 of kitten, Strawbs or QB is a wolf.

Whiplashy wrote: »

Gut feel? G&Rs ISO helped with Strawbs. I think tusk is too disorganized to be a wolf but I wouldn’t totally rule it out.

I don’t like having first action be a lynch!

And this is EXTREMELY interesting considering your objection to it for the second lynch!!

Whiplashy wrote: »

I’m currently on kitten but I do love a good CFD

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 07:36PM

Whiplashy wrote: »

I have no backroom

Also if I were a wolf I’d have declared myself the seer last night when the CFD was suggested to get Ecto to out herself. Feel free to note that for future games

Who are your thoughts for the last two wolves, and why?

Whiplashy · 04-07-2019 07:37PM

Well obviously I don’t like CFDs on me but also I haven’t seen someone try start two in one game never mind two nights in a row. It’s suspicious.

Also can we disregard anything wolfie mcwolf face is saying? He’s clearing trying to screw with us and we’ve no way of knowing if it’s bluff or double bluff.

Whiplashy · 04-07-2019 07:39PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Who are your thoughts for the last two wolves, and why?

Either kitten or Clara for one. Kitten for basically clearing me in an ISO not long after I called her out for throwing shade, Clara is gut feel and I don’t see them on the same team.

Either duff or kolido for the second because they’re trying to coast by under the radar and there’s usually a low posting wolf.

duffman13 · 04-07-2019 07:46PM

quickbeam wrote: »

And just to be completely open and honest, this exchange between Duff and GnR. It *could* play either way as W/W or W/V:

Though it doesn't show Duff in a good light either. I was congratulating us all in actually pulling off a full-participation in FFAs for the first lynch. But Duff goes and admits that his 3 were actually a joke. And he never came back in the hours afterwards to provide an actual list, even when everyone else did. At best, this is a poor villager move.

Desperate wolf being desperate! I like your endeavours though QB, it's nice of you to put up a bit of a fight

Clarabel · 04-07-2019 07:48PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Desperate wolf being desperate! I like your endeavours though QB, it's nice of you to put up a bit of a fight

Have you just admited you're a wolf?

duffman13 · 04-07-2019 07:48PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Okay, a quick ISO, and I agree you did switch around. Actually, I should have remembered as you and Duff were the two to vote outside your FFAs and not for those in the race.

Some interesting stuff here:

Never answered me on this:

Possibly calling out fellow wolf:

In answer to Trit, this is the reason she voted Kitten:

And this is EXTREMELY interesting considering your objection to it for the second lynch!!

Hang on, I voted for tusk, who had 8 FFAs, whom I'd shone a light on earlier in the day for potential wolfy behaviour! Your poorly and deliberately misrepresenting the facts!

duffman13 · 04-07-2019 07:48PM

Clarabel wrote: »

Have you just admited you're a wolf?

How? Did you read my post?

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 07:52PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Hang on, I voted for tusk, who had 8 FFAs, whom I'd shone a light on earlier in the day for potential wolfy behaviour! Your poorly and deliberately misrepresenting the facts!

Yes you did. I keep forgetting Strawbs, who got voted off, wasn't even in the race, and Tusk, who didn't, was.

Still, same question to you, who do you think are GnR's team-mates?

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 07:53PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Hang on, I voted for tusk, who had 8 FFAs, whom I'd shone a light on earlier in the day for potential wolfy behaviour! Your poorly and deliberately misrepresenting the facts!

Why'd you quote my ISO of Whippy when asking me that, btw?

Kolido · 04-07-2019 07:57PM

Why are people giving their ffas for tomorrow, you're giving munch ideas. 2 kills before tomorrows lynch.

Also I'd bet my house brs are opened over night.

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 07:57PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Green&Red wrote: »

Just on this, Sully my reading is that you're saying you voted for Strawbs (outside of your FFA) because she was in the running in the FFA compilation?

Cause she wasn't as far as I recall?

That's actually true. I'd assumed she was, until I looked back.

Annoyingly it was GnR who called me out on it last time too! Brain fart, that I keep forgetting who was in the race, tbh.

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 07:59PM

GnR's response when I said my initial vote was on Duff. Just to note.

Green&Red wrote: »

I actually thought Duffers was acting village.

duffman13 · 04-07-2019 08:01PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Why'd you quote my ISO of Whippy when asking me that, btw?

Read your own ISO, your mentioned my name in the first line about voting off FFA

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 08:03PM

Duff's ISO on Tusk. Okay, Tusk turned out to be a Villager, but it's also a good post. It's noted.

duffman13 wrote: »

Tusk you post a LOT! But you post nothing

Jokey accusation

Fluff

Fluff

Mechanics

Fluff

Fluff

Funny Fluff

Fluff

Fluff - Wants a role, is probably a wolf :rolleyes:

Fluff

Fluff

Fluff

Fluff

Extra Fluff

Fluff

Giffy Fluff

Fluff

Fluff

Looking for reasons why people might be considered clear! You made an assertation above as to why Kolido is a wolf with no reasoning. List a few reasons

Extra fluffy fluff

Congrats on the fluff milestone

Fluff

Kolido again, interesting

Oh no, it was just throwing an arrow

Fluff

Fluff

An FFA with no reasoning, you write so much fluff you could probably give a reason or two

Fluff

Woohoo I am in, when/if I die lynch him next

Defensive when he gets put under the scope. About 40 posts in and this is his first serious reply IMO

Fluff

Fluff, no reasoning

Fluff

So I now decided that Tusk is Fr Fluffy Bottom!

quickbeam · 04-07-2019 08:06PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Desperate wolf being desperate! I like your endeavours though QB, it's nice of you to put up a bit of a fight

Weird. I'm trying not to tunnel, and not use confirmation bias, so I picked an exchange that could show you in a good light (not wolf, even if not super-helpful villager) and yet you attack me for it?

duffman13 · 04-07-2019 08:10PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Weird. I'm trying not to tunnel, and not use confirmation bias, so I picked an exchange that could show you in a good light (not wolf, even if not super-helpful villager) and yet you attack me for it?

No, I pointed out an inaccuracy in your quote, do you feel attacked?

duffman13 · 04-07-2019 08:11PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Weird. I'm trying not to tunnel, and not use confirmation bias, so I picked an exchange that could show you in a good light (not wolf, even if not super-helpful villager) and yet you attack me for it?

Sorry thought you were replying to another quote, I stand corrected

Clarabel · 04-07-2019 08:14PM

duffman13 wrote: »

How? Did you read my post?

gah, i mixed you up as GnR bluff wolf but you are prime wolf candidate rather oops

Clarabel · 04-07-2019 08:34PM

Kolido wrote: »

Why are people giving their ffas for tomorrow, you're giving munch ideas. 2 kills before tomorrows lynch.

Also I'd bet my house brs are opened over night.

Your house is safe, just checked in with, the wolves are able to change their target right up til the munch is posted on thread.

We won't get any analysis tonight, figured FFA for tomorrow might help with discussion tomorrow. I don't understand your point though, the wolves know everything though, they know who to munch....

sKeith · 04-07-2019 09:01PM

Live players.
1Baggly
2Clarabel
3duffman13
4Green&Red
5kitten_k
6Kolido
7quickbeam
8sullivlo
9Whiplashy

If this post get 5 thanks, we can close the day early.

and, I will enable majority voting from now on. ( A majority is more than half. )

Clarabel · 04-07-2019 09:07PM

sKeith wrote: »

Live players.
1Baggly
2Clarabel
3duffman13
4Green&Red
5kitten_k
6Kolido
7quickbeam
8sullivlo
9Whiplashy

If this post get 5 thanks, we can close the day early.

and, I will enable majority voting from now on.

What is majority voting? As soon as we get n-1/2 then it's a lynch?

Kolido · 04-07-2019 09:15PM

Clarabel wrote: »

Your house is safe, just checked in with, the wolves are able to change their target right up til the munch is posted on thread.

We won't get any analysis tonight, figured FFA for tomorrow might help with discussion tomorrow. I don't understand your point though, the wolves know everything though, they know who to munch....

Check in where?

Sure they know who to munch, but they need to do it with strategy to win. We give them lynch targets and they will not munch them

Clarabel · 04-07-2019 09:18PM

Kolido wrote: »

Check in where?

Sure they know who to munch, but they need to do it with strategy to win. We give them lynch targets and they will not munch them

Skeith

sKeith · 04-07-2019 09:19PM

The day 3 has ended.

Green&Red : quickbeam, Baggly, Whiplashy, kitten_k, Clarabel, sullivlo, duffman13, Kolido

Green&Red has been lynched, they were a wolf.

Night 3 has begun.

Day 4 will begin as soon as the munch is finalized and will end either at 10pm tomorrow or when a majority lynch has been reached.

Cease posting until the munch post.

sKeith · 04-07-2019 09:45PM

There was some mention of speed days on thread.

This is now fully in the hands of the players.

The format has been modified so that if you can agree on a munch lynch ( I'm not a wolf, honest ), you can end the day early.
Wolves can give me final answers on their targets and end nights early.

If the players don't reach a majority, the game continues on at scheduled pace.

Hope that answers the speed days question.

I will pose the pause for the weekend question at some stage tomorrow.

sKeith · 05-07-2019 09:28AM

Night 3 ends, sullivlo was found dead, a vanilla villager.
Day 4 begins here.

quickbeam · 05-07-2019 09:32AM

Haven't voted yet. But think Whippy is the way to go.

I'm pretty sure she's a wolf

And her flip will tell us loads, especially in relation to Clara and kitten.

quickbeam · 05-07-2019 09:34AM

There's also stuff I thought of with fresh perspective this morning that I'd like to do some research on. Stuff unrelated to Whippy and Duffman as I really don't want to tunnel them either, in case I'm wrong about them.

quickbeam · 05-07-2019 09:43AM

The first one, probably clutching at straws here, but, this is right after Ecto's munch:

Baggly wrote: »

GNR saving kitten d1?
Kitten votes tusk d1 knowing he is village.
QB with a throwaway vote so as to not be seen wagoning (and actually, for all her talk of flexibility, she stuck to voting for me and not flexing with the village).

GNR knows tusk being killed flips him green. Doesnt want to be on that wagon. Votes me early and 'forgets' to switch votes.
Its tight if the goal was to avoid kitten being killed. Not sure they knew how close though.
Another throwaway vote by QB.

Clara got the killing vote on Tusk. Difficult to interpret this since her d1 vote was a throwaway.

You can probably sub in Duffers for GNR in the above scenario (kitten, GNR/duffers, qb wolf team). Duffers jumps on tusk d1 knowing he is village to save kitten. Doesnt jump on SM to avoid seeming wagony.

Then reaction to Ecto's munch:

Baggly wrote: »

AH FOR **** SAKE.

Clara queries this with him, quoting his first post above, and bolding the "GNR knows...." sentence:

Clarabel wrote: »

Did you write this prior to Ecto as seer going?

Bags says he posted as soon as he saw sKeith had posted but only read it later:

Baggly wrote: »

Yeah this morning. Posted it when i saw sK had posted in thread. Then read thread.

So, my observation:
(1) I think Bags is calling out GnR in his first post, and as GnR turns out to be a wolf, this is to his, Bags' credit.
(2) but, why did Bags post without reading? Was it just an error in judgement, or was it a case that he knew that he himself wasn't the munchee and that it was safe to do so?

WereWolf: A 13 player Seer game

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