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Would you like to live in a place called "The Orphanage?"

  • 03-07-2019 03:02PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭


    The former ‘Bird’s Nest’ orphanage in Dun Laoghaire has been turned into a “luxury co-living” residence – and is being called ‘The Orphanage’.

    With an address at 19-20 York Road, the property was used as an orphanage up until its closure in 1975 and housed about 180 children at any one time. Irish football legend Paul McGrath also lived there for a short period.
    DublinGazette


    Sounds delightful! O_o

    Imagine coming home from a long day at work with a headache to The Orphanage?

    It even has a nice nickname all ready "The Birds Nest" Why not name it that instead or something similarly homely, lol



    https://dublingazette.com/news/former-dun-laoghaire-orphanage-turned-into-luxury-co-living-residence-41028/


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  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd live in "The Asbestos Parlour" if it were affordable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    I'd live in "The Asbestos Parlour" if it were affordable.

    Touché!

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Think for a moment about the thousands of poor children who actually had to grow up in orphanages. They didn't have the luxury to be afraid of just the place's name but the reality of living in a grim, loveless hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    a grim, loveless hole.

    My ex had one of those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,903 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    My ex had one of those.

    until she dumped you is it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I'd live in "The Asbestos Parlour" if it were affordable.

    Or Fritzel’s basement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I'd live in "The Asbestos Parlour" if it were affordable.

    Or Fritzel’s basement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    Think for a moment about the thousands of poor children who actually had to grow up in orphanages. They didn't have the luxury to be afraid of just the place's name but the reality of living in a grim, loveless hole.

    Yeah, for sure!

    Whataboutery aside, still doesn't negate the fact it's a it's a ****ty name for apartments. It's a product to be sold on to new people with zero attachment or relation to orphanages and what may or may not have been terrible about them. It's people just looking for a place to put a roof over their head.

    Bit like calling a new estate Potato Blight or something. Yeah, must have been terrible for people that suffered. Doesnt mean I think it's a good idea to name an estate built over an old village affected by potato famine/genocide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    My address is 12 E-Voting Machine Lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,832 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Some of the names of new developments are ridiculous, I passed an apartment development the other day in Rathgar which is being named St. Pancras, developers are now just lifting names directly from London.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    “When you are there, it will become your adopted home,” the spokesperson added.

    Eugh, shocking name and idea imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    Ipso wrote: »
    Or Fritzel’s basement.

    I would name it "Fritzel Palace" as it kind of has a nicer ring to it, like Crystal Palace only more sordid and rapier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,917 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Fritzl Palace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I work in a former asylum, can you imagine they turned it into housing and called it the Asylum - you have to be mad to live here!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Guaranteed to be haunted. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    "co-living" aka the return of tenements.

    A vomit flower by any other name would smell just as nice :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    A friend of mine is about to lose her apartment in Dun Laoghaire for which she was paying €1,200 per month (owner needs it back for a family member) - that's a kitchen, living room, bathroom and double bedroom. This place is asking for the same price and you don't even get your own living space. This is exactly what's wrong with the idea that we should regard housing as a mere commodity and allow market forces to dictate it, without thinking about how much it's f*cking up peoples' lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    As longs as it's not Somewhere Villas I'm sure it'll be grand :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    beejee wrote: »
    "co-living" aka the return of tenements.

    A vomit flower by any other name would smell just as nice :p
    Not such a terrible thing actually and suits people of a certain age and inclination. This one is aimed at business market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    no


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭TeaBagMania


    Would you like to live in a place called "The Orphanage?"

    Yep, and id start adopting girls between the ages of 18 and 19 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    There was a squat in The Hague in the 90s FULL of Irish people that was known as "The Orphanage"

    Read all about it: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057394284


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    They've decided to rename it and apologised for the insensitivity - IMO it was a mistake to focus the outrage on the naming of it, because the real issue here is the price that's being asked for such a sh!te living experience. You're essentially renting a room in a shared house for €1,200 per month, this is not something we should be allowing to happen as a society. I have nothing against house sharing or co-living per se - if, as the people running this are saying, it's designed for a company to book all four rooms for four co-workers to live together I can imagine it being good craic with the right mix of people, just like a house or flat share during college can be - but €1,200 was, just one year ago, the average asking price to have a whole flat to yourself.

    Asking four people to share a kitchen and living room and pay €1,200 each is monstrous, and the problem is that if we allow the precedent to be set that this is the standard of living one should expect for such a rent, it is guaranteed that once a few of these have been built in the area, the cost of renting an actual flat will skyrocket to even more unacceptable levels than it already has.

    I obviously have a declared vested interest in being pissed off about this, as the woman I mentioned a few posts ago is being evicted from her €1,200 per month rental apartment which she only rented exactly one year ago, and is now faced with accepting a far, far lower quality of life for far, far more money than she was already paying. It's heartbreaking enough when it's happening to someone you know, but even beyond that, the wider and longer term societal implications of what we're allowing to happen are absolutely appalling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    I'd be more offended by being ripped off at 1200 a month


  • Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A friend of mine is about to lose her apartment in Dun Laoghaire for which she was paying €1,200 per month (owner needs it back for a family member) - that's a kitchen, living room, bathroom and double bedroom. This place is asking for the same price and you don't even get your own living space. This is exactly what's wrong with the idea that we should regard housing as a mere commodity and allow market forces to dictate it, without thinking about how much it's f*cking up peoples' lives.

    Market forces are turning down planning for multi unit developments every day now are they?

    It's the State's planning process that is restricting supply yet the market gets the blame so that the likes of you can further your ideology.

    Maybe if more high rise was allowed by the Council and ABP, housing would become more affordable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    salonfire wrote: »
    Market forces are turning down planning for multi unit developments every day now are they?

    It's the State's planning process that is restricting supply yet the market gets the blame so that the likes of you can further your ideology.

    Maybe if more high rise was allowed by the Council and ABP, housing would become more affordable.

    I absolutely agree that we should allow more high rise, but more direct action is needed in the meantime. RPZ's should include limits on pricing based on the type of housing being rented out, etc. As a democratic society, we set laws around pricing and selling of various things all the time, to do the same with housing shouldn't be seen as such a massively radical step. The basis of Irish independence literally started off as a protest against landlords price gouging their tenants FFS.

    There are various ways we could achieve this, various mechanisms we could calculate what should be regarded as an acceptable rent for people to pay (base it on average take home pay, base it on the CPI, base it on a maximum rent per square metre, etc) but the current paradigm in which "housing is nothing but a cash cow so people are free to charge however much they can get away with, despite the consequences for individual quality of life for people trying to rent" is absolutely appalling.

    There are simply some things which society should regard as fundamentally important for its own wellbeing and functioning, and not allow to be treated as just a way of milking actual human beings for as much as one can get away with. Those who are renting out this development at such a ridiculous price per room are doing something which is fundamentally morally wrong, and as a democratic society we have a right to talk about what we will and will not allow to happen. We do it all the time. We did it before, in the history of this island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    DublinGazette


    Sounds delightful! O_o

    Imagine coming home from a long day at work with a headache to The Orphanage?

    It even has a nice nickname all ready "The Birds Nest" Why not name it that instead or something similarly homely, lol



    https://dublingazette.com/news/former-dun-laoghaire-orphanage-turned-into-luxury-co-living-residence-41028/


    At least it shows respect for what it formerly was though so people don't forget.

    I wouldn't mind living there.


  • Posts: 669 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Some of the names of new developments are ridiculous, I passed an apartment development the other day in Rathgar which is being named St. Pancras, developers are now just lifting names directly from London.

    As far as I'm aware it's national policy that new developments be given names that reflect local history. Certainly for DCC any new name needs to be approved by a Heritage officer. In this case there was a St. Pancras house on the site previously, as well as a St. Pancras works, hence the name. That said, I'm sure the developer here appreciated the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,667 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Some of the names of new developments are ridiculous, I passed an apartment development the other day in Rathgar which is being named St. Pancras, developers are now just lifting names directly from London.

    That development is in Terenure, you don't want to be upsetting the humble people of Rathgar, by getting addresses mixed up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    beejee wrote: »
    "co-living" aka the return of tenements.

    A vomit flower by any other name would smell just as nice :p

    "Family hub" sounds like a cosy name for a crowded hell hole.

    Instead of building stuff, the govt and their developer buddies give inoffensive names to half arsed measures.


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