Great projects that are never delivered

handlemaster · 26-06-2019 11:56AM #1

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/25/dublin-disappoints-what-happened-to-city-cyclings-great-hope

How many such good ideas never take off ? We are a country of ideas but delivery is so poor.

Deebles McBeebles · 26-06-2019 11:59AM

We are a country of politicians who will say anything for a vote, never deliver and get voted back in anyway.

Your Face · 26-06-2019 12:07PM

handlemaster wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/25/dublin-disappoints-what-happened-to-city-cyclings-great-hope

How many such good ideas never take off ? We are a country of ideas but delivery is so poor.

They must have a strong lobby group.

PhilOssophy · 26-06-2019 12:11PM

NIMBYISM, political interference and lobby groups who don't see the greater good.
Its not just cycling that has this problem, it is getting ANYTHING done.
Cyclists don't help themselves, as a daily cyclist/commuting cyclist I get fed up with the appalling attitude to the rules of the road of my fellow cyclists. Until this attitude changes, I can't see en masse investment in cycling. I'd love to think my children could cycle to school in years to come but I can't see it, and that gives me no satisfaction.

Bio Mech · 26-06-2019 12:17PM

handlemaster wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/25/dublin-disappoints-what-happened-to-city-cyclings-great-hope

I presume the irony of protesting the blocking of cycle lanes by sitting down to block the cycle lane is lost on that guy.

chrissb8 · 26-06-2019 12:18PM

My primary school project on sharks. I drew 10 glorious pages of anatomically incorrect sharks with crayons "More effort needed to be made and a lack of factual information". I was asked to do it again and well, I never did deliever it on time.

26-06-2019 12:25PM

This phenomenon is known as "kicking the can". Note the Climate Action Plan, by 2030 we aim to reduce emissions etc. And the current shower of chancers will be long gone, pensions secure & blissfully ignorant in warmer climes.

PinotNero · 26-06-2019 12:28PM

handlemaster wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/25/dublin-disappoints-what-happened-to-city-cyclings-great-hope

How many such good ideas never take off ? We are a country of ideas but delivery is so poor.

Banana - Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything

Ulysses Gaze · 26-06-2019 12:30PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

We are a country of politicians who will say anything for a vote, never deliver and get voted back in anyway.

That's pretty much every country.

biko · 26-06-2019 12:43PM

Ireland just feels extra bad and corrupt because we live here but there are way worse politicians out there.
https://www.transparency.org/cpi2018

Deebles McBeebles · 26-06-2019 12:45PM

biko wrote: »

Ireland just feels extra bad and corrupt because we live here but there are way worse politicians out there.
https://www.transparency.org/cpi2018

We'll get there eventually as long as we keep trying. C'mon Ireland!

ChikiChiki · 26-06-2019 01:10PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

We are a country of politicians who will say anything for a vote, never deliver and get voted back in anyway.

That's pretty much every country.

For some reason we are better at generating apologists.

Metro to the airport won't be delivered in the next 20 years and the new children's hospital will be a disaster.

Scandalous.

Badly Drunk Boy · 26-06-2019 01:14PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Metro to the airport won't be delivered in the next 20 years and the new children's hospital will be a disaster.

Scandalous.

But my passport will be out of date by then!! :mad: (And I'll probably be dead...)

is_that_so · 26-06-2019 01:23PM

Hmm, Owen Keegan. Article makes it sound like everyone can go on a bike everywhere and I see the half-baked pedestrianisation of College Green remains an aspiration.

is_that_so · 26-06-2019 01:25PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

For some reason we are better at generating apologists.

Metro to the airport won't be delivered in the next 20 years and the new children's hospital will be a disaster.

Scandalous.

I don't think the hospital will be a disaster but shockingly expensive for sure. Metro is just a byword for "some day"!

Jupiter Mulligan · 26-06-2019 01:27PM

The sarcasm in the title of this thread is simply fantastic. Well done, OP. "Great projects" my hole!

Roger Hassenforder · 26-06-2019 01:40PM

Check out the Cork Event centre thread

Roger Hassenforder · 26-06-2019 01:43PM

Bio Mech wrote: »

I presume the irony of protesting the blocking of cycle lanes by sitting down to block the cycle lane is lost on that guy.

He (they) didnt block it for cyclists

This will be listed among the great protests against mechanically propelled vehicles and tyranny, along with Tiananmen square

jimwallace197 · 26-06-2019 01:46PM

biko wrote: »

Ireland just feels extra bad and corrupt because we live here but there are way worse politicians out there.
https://www.transparency.org/cpi2018

Wouldn't read much into that, its only for known and reported corruption. Something we are not very good at either. Whistle blowing has only become a big thing recently in this country & look how that was handled.

On a political level, we are considered highly corrupt even by international standards.

Jupiter Mulligan · 26-06-2019 01:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Welcome to AH. Our tour guide will be with you shortly.

Cheers. I have my own white stick so won't require the services of a guide.

lalababa · 26-06-2019 01:49PM

Remember the excellent proposal by a young minister to give drink licences to anybody who also served food for 5k. ( He must have holidayed on the continent). So that we could grow up Abit only to be drowned out by the vintners association. So now I can drink as much or as little in a pub whilst starving or eat as much or as little in a cafe whilst thirsty.

Jupiter Mulligan · 26-06-2019 01:50PM

jimwallace197 wrote: »

On a political level, we are considered highly corrupt even by international standards.

Source?

(note that a MRI scan of your large intestine isn't an acceptable source.)

James Brown · 26-06-2019 02:20PM

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

Source?

(note that a MRI scan of your large intestine isn't an acceptable source.)

Hard to measure really. Was Bertie corrupt? Never charged criminally.
Ireland was ranked 19th out of 183 countries in the Corruption Perception index.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorial/corruption-index-ireland-lags-behind-1.3402112

I'd say besides the croynism, inapporpriate behaviour and sweet deals, we've very few convictions so, not corrupt at all

Jupiter Mulligan · 26-06-2019 02:23PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Hard to measure really. Was Bertie corrupt? Never charged criminally.
Ireland was ranked 19th out of 183 countries in the Corruption Perception index.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorial/corruption-index-ireland-lags-behind-1.3402112

I'd say besides the croynism, inapporpriate behaviour and sweet deals, we've very few convictions so, not corrupt at all

That's almost as simplistic as your ongoing attempts to divide the whole world into FG or non-FG, Matt.

When you grow up intellectually, you'll appreciate that you don't live in a binary world where things are either black or white, good or bad.

Church on Tuesday · 26-06-2019 02:29PM

e voting machines?

Jupiter Mulligan · 26-06-2019 02:33PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

e voting machines?

Their time will come again. Although sadly I probably won't be around to see it.

James Brown · 26-06-2019 02:54PM

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

That's almost as simplistic as your ongoing attempts to divide the whole world into FG or non-FG, Matt.

When you grow up intellectually, you'll appreciate that you don't live in a binary world where things are either black or white, good or bad.

TBF Jup you're in every where there's a criticism of anything blue shirted, case in point this current line. Sure g'wan over to the Bailey thread and tell us all how nobody is interested in the story

Hurrache · 26-06-2019 02:55PM

Bio Mech wrote: »

I presume the irony of protesting the blocking of cycle lanes by sitting down to block the cycle lane is lost on that guy.

He didn't block the cycle lane, he kept it open for cyclists. No irony there.

odyssey06 · 26-06-2019 02:57PM

Michael McDowell's plan to sell off Mountjoy and build a new super prison at Thornton Hall.
https://www.michaelmcdowell.ie/a-vision-for-dublin.html

I don't see things changing much with the current system, unless maybe if we get a directly elected Dublin mayor with real powers.

razorblunt · 26-06-2019 02:58PM

Cork Events Center.

26-06-2019 03:51PM

I plan on doing a lot more travelling when I retire in 15 years time.

I wonder if I’ll be able to get the train to the airport by then.

Great projects that are never delivered

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