I met a homeless Mother on the street

Thelonious Monk · 22-06-2019 06:25PM

I might be naive, but I didn't think there were any homeless mothers/children in Ireland?

Outlaw Pete · 22-06-2019 06:26PM

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

The homeless will surely have to buy card readers in the coming years.

Homeless people wearing barcodes to accept cashless payments

Homeless people are wearing barcodes around their necks in an attempt to increase donations in a cashless society, under an Oxford University backed initiative.

A new social innovation project, called Greater Change, hands homeless people a QR code, similar to the kind issued for online tickets.

Passersby who wish to give money - but who may not have any change in their pocket - can scan the code using their smart phone, and make an online payment to the person.

Big Issue sellers have them in the UK also.

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 06:27PM

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

A limit of one year on the dole, in a five year cycle would end people’s addiction to free money. If people had to work to survive they wouldn’t be pissed pushing a pram around like this woman. I never understand people who have kids and drag them up. Why did the woman in the story have kids, when she had nothing to offer to them?

The idea that anyone would have kids to get trapped in a hotel room or bedsit with x amount of kids running around screaming and bored and hysterical, just to get a house for free off the state, is ludicrous.
Nobody wants that. Nobody. Nobody does that.

That situation would drive anyone to drink.

Some heartless and frankly clueless people posting constantly here on this topic. They have not even a single genuine notion of what it is like to be in that situation. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone and it’s appalling to see whats being spouted. Nonsense and Poorly informed nonsense is all it is

For all the complaining about Muslims on this forum, those doing it have forgotten the main rule of Christianity. Be thankful for what you have and
Look after those worse off than you.

And I say that as an atheist enemy of the Catholic Church.

Hypocrisy abounds.

Stheno · 22-06-2019 06:32PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I might be naive, but I didn't think there were any homeless mothers/children in Ireland?

They are in emergency accommodation in the main

Thelonious Monk · 22-06-2019 06:33PM

Stheno wrote: »

They are in emergency accommodation in the main

Ok but no actual homeless mothers/children on the street?

Stheno · 22-06-2019 06:33PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

The idea that anyone would have kids to get trapped in a hotel room or bedsit with x amount of kids running around screaming and bored and hysterical, just to get a house for free off the state, is ludicrous.
Nobody wants that. Nobody. Nobody does that.

That situation would drive anyone to drink.

Some heartless and frankly clueless people posting constantly here on this topic. They have not even a single genuine notion of what it is like to be in that situation. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone and it’s appalling to see whats being spouted. Nonsense and Poorly informed nonsense is all it is

For all the complaining about Muslims on this forum, those doing it have forgotten the main rule of Christianity. Be thankful for what you have and
Look after those worse off than you.

And I say that as an atheist enemy of the Catholic Church.

Hypocrisy abounds.

Erica Fleming chose to stay in a hotel room with her daughter rather than take HAP ing io l she got permanent housing

Stheno · 22-06-2019 06:38PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Ok but no actual homeless mothers/children on the street?

I don't believe so but am not 100 percent sure

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 06:50PM

Stheno wrote: »

Erica Fleming chose to stay in a hotel room with her daughter rather than take HAP ing io l she got permanent housing

I don’t know who that is sorry.

What’s the bill annually for keeping these families in hotels does anyone know?

Can only imagine the bill goes up annually?

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 06:53PM

Stheno wrote: »

I don't believe so but am not 100 percent sure

You’ve pointed out the flaw in the OP post.

No way a woman getting beaten and threatened would happen in a hotel. Other residents would hear. She could run to reception and say he’s gonna kill me. And get moved to a different hotel. Etc etc.

Original post was bill**** hating on homeless people. Par for the after hours course though.

kravmaga · 22-06-2019 06:54PM

vriesmays wrote: »

Did you ask her which bank repossessed her home.

Probably some vulture fund which bought out the distressed mortgage in the 1st instance, all the banks are doing this now

ILoveYourVibes · 22-06-2019 06:55PM

I wonder where the fathers are.

kravmaga · 22-06-2019 06:56PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I don’t know who that is sorry.

What’s the bill annually for keeping these families in hotels does anyone know?

Can only imagine the bill goes up annually?

Its approx €49 million a year and rising....

ILoveYourVibes · 22-06-2019 06:57PM

kravmaga wrote: »

Its approx €49 million a year and rising....

Less than I thought tbh.

Obviously it's unacceptable though.

An Claidheamh · 22-06-2019 06:58PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I have met a homeless mom last year. She had one little girl.
I just got the kid Mc Donald's and the mom a sandwich from O'Brien's i put a 50 euro note in the sandwich bag.

If she was living in a hotel and not paying rent, why couldn't she pay for her own food from her dole money?

You were scammed by someone too arrogant to get a job and having no shame pretending she and her children are living on the streets.

Most people who ask you for money are opportunistic chancers.

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 06:58PM

kravmaga wrote: »

Its approx €49 million a year and rising....

So over ten years, and we’re appeoaching that in this crisis,
€500 million would build an awful lot of houses

An Claidheamh · 22-06-2019 06:59PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

And I say that as an atheist enemy of the Catholic Church.

Hypocrisy abounds.

Bit hypocritical being an atheist and sectarian aswell.

Very rational.....

Stheno · 22-06-2019 06:59PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I don’t know who that is sorry.

What’s the bill annually for keeping these families in hotels does anyone know?

Can only imagine the bill goes up annually?

I think it was over 100 million last year for Dublin

Edit https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/hotels-received-in-excess-of-e1-million-for-accommodating-homeless-people-in-last-year-4492207-Feb2019/%3famp=1
143 million for Dublin city council(One of four council's in the greater dublin area) in 2018 and they are budgeting over 150 mill up on this year.

I live in Fingal and they appear to be doing well with building social housing in my area I know of four developments being worked on

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 07:00PM

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Bit hypocritical being an atheist and sectarian aswell.

Very rational.....

You’re using that word wrong. Try harder.

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 07:01PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think it was over 100 million last year for Dublin

It couldn’t be that.
It’s up there but not that much.

Stheno · 22-06-2019 07:04PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

It couldn’t be that.
It’s up there but not that much.

See my link above. For ONE of the four Dublin councils it was 143 million last year

ILoveYourVibes · 22-06-2019 07:06PM

An Claidheamh wrote: »

If she was living in a hotel and not paying rent, why couldn't she pay for her own food from her dole money?

You were scammed by someone too arrogant to get a job and having no shame pretending she and her children are living on the streets.

Most people who ask you for money are opportunistic chancers.

Well firstly thanks for looking out for me.

I was helping someone obviously less fortunate than me because i wanted to. I am not so bothered if she was over emphasizing her situation. Kind of means she is a good mother to do that.

She needed something in the moment the kid was hungry and so was she. It's my duty to help. It's an honor. It allowed an opportunity for me to be a good person and to be less selfish. If she didn't need it. Then it's even better!

It's the way i was raised. It's 'Tzedakah'.Righteousness.Charity.

ILoveYourVibes · 22-06-2019 07:10PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think it was over 100 million last year for Dublin

Edit https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/hotels-received-in-excess-of-e1-million-for-accommodating-homeless-people-in-last-year-4492207-Feb2019/%3famp=1
143 million for Dublin city council(One of fout council's in the greater dublin area) in 2018 and they are budgeting over 150 mill up on this year.

I live in Fingal and they appear to be doing well with building social housing in my area I know of four developments being worked on

That is more like it. 49 million seemed very low.:(

22-06-2019 07:13PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I was helping someone obviously less fortunate than me because i wanted to. I am not so bothered if she was over emphasizing her situation. Kind of means she is a good mother to do that.

She needed something in the moment the kid was hungry and so was she. It's my duty to help. It's an honor. It allowed an opportunity for me to be a good person and to be less selfish. If she didn't need it. Then it's even better!

It's the way i was raised. It's 'Tzedakah'.Righteousness.Charity.

Nothing righteous about giving someone rope to hang themselves with. You've no idea what that 50 quid went towards.

Much more responsible and charitable to sacrifice the good feeling you got from giving her cash to her face and instead give the money to an organisation with the know-how and resources to actually help.

Stheno · 22-06-2019 07:15PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

So over ten years, and we’re appeoaching that in this crisis,
€500 million would build an awful lot of houses

Emergency accomodat upon in 2018 cost DCC 143 million.

One of the housing charities has just applied for 3 million in funding to buy 8 houses in Santry

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/news/housing-charity-to-pay-3m-for-conor-mcgregors-social-housing-development-38222706.html

At that rate 500 million would provide maybe 170 houses, a drop in the ocean given there are probably 3000 homeless families in Dublin

Edit I was incorrect they get funding for 30 percent so 500 million would perhaps provide 550 housed

ILoveYourVibes · 22-06-2019 07:17PM

true-or-false wrote: »

Nothing righteous about giving someone rope to hang themselves with. You've no idea what that 50 quid went towards.

Much more responsible and charitable to sacrifice the good feeling you got from giving her cash to her face and instead give the money to an organisation with the know-how and resources to actually help.

I do give to organizations.

We were just raised differently sethno. it was a very important part of my upbringing to do what i did.

But we are all raised differently and think differently.

Plumbthedepths · 22-06-2019 07:18PM

Sweet.Science wrote:

Never thought Of that .

You never thought to report neglected children to the guards but remembered to have a rant on Boards, yeah right .

Stop moaning ffs · 22-06-2019 07:19PM

Stheno wrote: »

Emergency accomodat upon in 2018 cost DCC 143 million.

One of the housing charities has just applied for 3 million in funding to buy 8 houses in Santry

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/news/housing-charity-to-pay-3m-for-conor-mcgregors-social-housing-development-38222706.html

At that rate 500 million would provide maybe 170 houses, a drop in the ocean given there are probably 3000 homeless families in Dublin

There’s an inquiry on its own. 3 million for 8 houses. How did they get many built for that cheap??

Still though. It’s a drop in the ocean compared to pouring good money into a black hole paying hotels no?

Roger Hassenforder · 22-06-2019 07:19PM

Stheno wrote: »

Emergency accomodat upon in 2018 cost DCC 143 million.

One of the housing charities has just applied for 3 million in funding to buy 8 houses in Santry

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/news/housing-charity-to-pay-3m-for-conor-mcgregors-social-housing-development-38222706.html

At that rate 500 million would provide maybe 170 houses, a drop in the ocean given there are probably 3000 homeless families in Dublin

So people working get to commute from Gorey and Portlaoise etc., and get to pay for the helpless to live in the City.

What a fcuking country.

Want a free house?
Here's one in Longford.
Cheerio.

Stheno · 22-06-2019 07:21PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

There’s an inquiry on its own. 3 million for 8 houses. How sid they get many built for that cheap??

Still though. It’s a drop in the ocean compared to pouring good money into a black hole paying hotels no?

Dublin City Council appear one of the worst performers when it comes to provide i my or building social housing tbh.

As I said Fingal appear to have a better approach

ILoveYourVibes · 22-06-2019 07:21PM

I feel sometimes people feel bad because they can't give and project that on to those who need or who do give.

It's projected shame.

You don't want to give cool. No one cares.

You can't give not a soul judges.

Doing a good thing doesn't make you a better person.

Projecting shame though does mean you don't understand yourself and your motivations and you are probably easily manipulated.

I met a homeless Mother on the street

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