Brexit discussion thread IX (Please read OP before posting)

Headshot · 18-06-2019 06:08PM

The debate on BBC1 is @ 8pm tonight right?

Mezcita · 18-06-2019 06:08PM

Headshot wrote: »

The debate on BBC1 is @ 8pm tonight right?

Yep.

Rjd2 · 18-06-2019 06:17PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Stand by!

Boris Johnson 126
Gove 41
Hunt 46
Javid 33
Stewart 37

Raab 30 out

So as you were really. 2nd is a four horse race with Stewart coming up on the rail

those 30 Raab votes will go to Johnson.

Its been speculated that Johnson is loaning votes to ensure Stewart is out and ideally Hunt is in the last 2.

I expect after the debate that Johnson will step this up and make sure its Boris v Hunt, he has the numbers sadly for that.

Loafing Oaf · 18-06-2019 06:20PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The pity is that Johnson will need to be discovered in bed with a live boy or a dead girl not to win this.

Well given his, ahem, colourful personal history, who knows?:p I thought something might crop up to disqualify him in the post #metoo era, but apparently he isn't that sort of sleaze.

Mezcita · 18-06-2019 06:21PM

Rjd2 wrote: »

those 30 Raab votes will go to Johnson.

Its been speculated that Johnson is loaning votes to ensure Stewart is out and ideally Hunt is in the last 2.

I expect after the debate that Johnson will step this up and make sure its Boris v Hunt, he has the numbers sadly for that.

That doesn't add up though. Hunt just got three more votes than in the first round. So if he was going to be loaned votes surely it more make more sense to give him more to be on the safe side.

Stop moaning ffs · 18-06-2019 06:26PM

It’s wll over twitter and radio today that Johnson is having votes stacked for Hunt.

Harry Palmr · 18-06-2019 06:27PM

Tonight's debate is rather odd - questions from the public but not in the studio. It'll feel a bit dead unless the 5 left start to let rip properly (even if it's only in Latin)

Loafing Oaf · 18-06-2019 06:58PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Tonight's debate is rather odd - questions from the public but not in the studio. It'll feel a bit dead unless the 5 left start to let rip properly (even if it's only in Latin)

I like that format, should cut down on the grandstanding and platitudes

Laois_Man · 18-06-2019 07:45PM

Ken Clark ripping BoJo a new hole on Sky earlier!

BoJo lending votes to Hunt doesn't make sense at this point - reducing his count and increasing Hunt's instead doesn't prevent anyone else from reaching 33. It will make sense in round 5 alright!

A Shropshire Lad · 18-06-2019 07:46PM

Theres no one within a donkeys roar of Johnson in the betting, currently hes 1/7.

Interesting Rory is second favourite way out at 7/1

I thought Johnson might be marmite to a lot of Conservatives but seemingly not

4068ac1elhodqr · 18-06-2019 07:50PM

A Shropshire Lad wrote: »

Theres no one within a donkeys roar of Johnson in the betting, currently hes 1/7.
Interesting Rory is second favourite way out at 7/1
I thought Johnson might be marmite to a lot of Conservatives but seemingly not

Yet this morning you said:

A Shropshire Lad wrote: »

I am laying Bojo at 1.17 just becuase there is always a possibility with him that he will say or do something to torpedo his campaign

So 1.17 (lay bet) is as bad of an idea, as backing Hilary for POTUS 2020.

A Shropshire Lad · 18-06-2019 07:53PM

Jazmine Big Dragonfly wrote: »

Yet this morning you said:

So 1.17 (lay bet) is as bad of an idea, as backing Hilary for POTUS 2020.

Do you know what a lay bet is ?

It means to bet against.

Yes I think its worth laying Johnson just because his price is so ridiculously low. It looks value, on the exchanges

4068ac1elhodqr · 18-06-2019 08:01PM

A Shropshire Lad wrote: »

Do you know what a lay bet is ?
It means to bet against.
Yes I think its worth laying Johnson just because his price is so ridiculously low. It looks value, on the exchanges

Correct, but going up (against) the clear favourite without any clear logic does not make any sense. Hoping for some 'wild-party-night-story' scandal to emmerge and de-track him within the next month is simply wishful thinking.

Akrasia · 18-06-2019 08:15PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

This debate is awful so far. Bickering between themselves. Maitlis is struggling to control them.

They all completely ignored Rory Stewarts perfectly cromulent question

gooch2k9 · 18-06-2019 08:16PM

Johnson isn't allowing himself to be interrupted. This is worse than Sunday so far. A whole lot of non answers.

Stewart has the tie off..

nc6000 · 18-06-2019 08:21PM

Here we go again with talk of existing technology which solves the border issue. Why can't anyone ask them to explain what the technology is and how it will work?

gooch2k9 · 18-06-2019 08:22PM

Javid sinking here over the backstop.

Hunt and Javid prattling on vaguely about technology.

Roger_007 · 18-06-2019 08:22PM

They are ganging up on Rory.............a sure sign that they are scared of him?

gooch2k9 · 18-06-2019 08:24PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

They are ganging up on Rory.............a sure sign that they are scared of him?

Maitlis is quite annoying, she won't let Stewart ask pertinent questions of the others.

10000maniacs · 18-06-2019 08:25PM

Boris bringing up Gatt 24 as a solution to the Irish Border issue. Charlatan.

EltonJohn69 · 18-06-2019 08:26PM

Boris is not impressive.....but neither are the rest... Bertie Ahern would do a job on these lads

Aidric · 18-06-2019 08:26PM

'Comprehensive solution' says Michael Gove. What is it then?

Joe_ Public · 18-06-2019 08:29PM

Rorys totally correct when he says none of them are answering the questions, either about delivering brexit or on the backstop. Its all fantasy and delusion. But i cant honestly see Rory answering it himself either, a border in the irish sea, as i think he is suggesting, isnt something i see working either. And the citizens assembly is a fair enough idea, but a group likely split 50-50 leavers and remainers isn't all that likely to bring things any farther along imho.

Stop moaning ffs · 18-06-2019 08:32PM

Listening to this on radio 4

This is going to haunt each of them. Or would do in the normal real world.

Aidric · 18-06-2019 08:33PM

'I went in to politics to help the very poorest in society'. Said with a straight face.

Roger_007 · 18-06-2019 08:34PM

Who would have thought that the Tories are so concerned about the poor. The sound like a bunch of Labour MPs at their annual conference.

Joe_ Public · 18-06-2019 08:38PM

Gove is the one i like least of all these, and by some distance. Sure, Johnson is a man of no morals or convictions but i will at least say about him that's he's fairly transparent. Gove just looks so slick and managed, its just not possible to actually believe a word that comes out of his mouth. As education minister he ravaged schools sports facilities at a time they were bleating on about their olympic legacy, cant find any redeeming quality about him at all.

super_furry · 18-06-2019 08:42PM

Such delusion and willful ignorance on display from all of them apart from Rory Stewart who at least seems to recognise the ****-show that they've gotten themselves into. That shred of reality from him will rule him out of the running now.

gooch2k9 · 18-06-2019 08:42PM

Johnson isn't saying a whole lot, and he's not really being pushed either. He's being allowed talk when he wants, so is sure of what he wants to say.

Can't say something wrong if you don't say anything!

54and56 · 18-06-2019 08:47PM

This debate is a shambles, very poorly organised. Emily isn't controlling and moderating very well at all.

Brexit discussion thread IX (Please read OP before posting)

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