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007 Mafia: GoldenWolf - GAME THREAD
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Well I'm glad you're getting less suspicious of me but that was quite a quick getting more suspicious to getting less suspicious Ecto.
However, you're now the third person to say that they'll ISO me and I don't think anyone has thus far. You might actually be one who does it though.
Less suspicious, not completely clear. You made some good points re the use of roleblock that struck me as pro-village. And ISOing you as we speak
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Bounty Hunter wrote: »Not sure if I will be on late tonight but i'm curious to see if people start jumping around with their votes, no clear wagon at this stage for wolves to hide in.
In case I am not around, my vote is currently in for the person I had no.1 on my FFA. It could change if Cheazy gets involved, shares the opinions he said he had when he mentioned he had been keeping up with the thread etc Rally against me if necessary but get posting if we shouldn't be suspecting you.Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »Afternoon guys
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Bounty Hunter wrote: »So Your not buying Ecto's lean on Barney or Fixxxers' on Kitten. Anyone you are suspicious of?
Is that aimed at me? Seriously? I’ve not exactly been subtle about who I’m suspicious of! 0 -
Think you're fine until Monday fixxxer.From the matrix it seems that every role in column A is in column B, but not vice versa. If we find a role cop or motion detector we know we are in B. Would be useful if we were able to work it out eventually in order to evaluate future role claims.
At least I know one person is reading my posts.Well if it were to be a slip then we'd be in column b so I don't think you'd multiply by 0.5.Would they not be better off staying hidden? It could be a good role if the other good roles were accounted for (either alive or dead). That means that if they follow someone else and they do something that they must be a baddy. If the doctor and roleblocker are dead (2E for example), then the motion detector can only really detect wolves moving.
It says they can detect actions performed on or by a player, but not what they were. I've not played with the role before, but would they be told if an action was performed by the person they followed or if the action the was done to them? Or would they simply be told the person they followed was involved in an action (either performed by them or done to them)? If they're told whether the action was performed by them then the role could be used as a seer near the end, if still alive.Okay, so they are just told if the person they followed was doing an action or having an action being performed upon them, but they aren't told which?I see. Well if role cop and the two village roles are gone then it could be useful. Unlikely enough scenario I suppose, and even then they'd have to follow the wolf. Otherwise they'll be told motion detected about the person who is being munched.
Please view the attached as a crude infographic for what has happened thus far
He hasn't actually done it but wants to.I'm getting an AB vibe
I don't know about that. As SK says the not each wolf will put in a munch order so no motion doens't necessarily mean villager. The motion detector may be of use in corroborating or debunking claims however. Say they followed XXX on night one and were told no motion and then later in the game someone claims the roleblocker and says they blocked XXX on night one then the motion detector can say that no action was performed on XXX that night so they must be lying.I've seen noog appear a number of times. What is it? Backwards goon - mafia?Calling out low posters a logical place to start? Hmm, I'm not so sure of that BH. I mean it's certainly a place one could start but it could be that people didn't realise it was starting earlier than expected and haven't yet been able to get into the game.Baggly you seem to have left three people off your list there - myself, fixxxer and ain't easy. That seems bizarre given that you've provided a leaning for sulli who only has one post.
Ok. So doing this in stages so I get it done. This is up to the first munch so all of Day 0. Mostly discussing mechanics - which I've argued can be cover for wolves - but does seem to be looking at how roles can be used. Calls out Baggly for not including him on list. Most paranoid read is that that's our wolf team and Baggly slipped up by not including his team-mates in his reads list. So team is Drumpot, Barney, Fixxxer and Cheezy. This might be enough to sway me to vote for one of these later.
Benefit of doubt read - does a wolf publicly point out that fact?
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It's not a good look but there have been posts about people suspecting cheazy pretty much throughout the day. Having a quick check there were posts at
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I may have missed some. Genie could probably then have been levelled at any time throughout the day and not looked too out of place.0 -
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Put Trit in for initial context.TALKING ABOUT CHEEZY: Feel free to ask (lots of) questions to help get to grips
It makes it easier and also helps us if you’re villageIt also helps us if they're a wolf because they'll be posting more.Ah I'd point it out either way trit. Maintaining low posting definitely doesn't help the village and would eventually lead to me suspecting them. However, higher posting leads to more help if a village and more opportunities to mess up if a wolf. It also provides more opportunities for them to interact with others, which would be very useful if a wolf.
So in short, it's not worthwhile for you to stay so low in the post count cheezy because eventually low posters will be targeted I'd imagine.SK's post was maybe a bit unusual as Sulli said in her post. Not sure why the bit about the N0 role claim though. However, it doesn't come across to me as a wolfy suggestion. I don't really see the point of it for a wolf.
The bit about not the village not knowing the actual roles isn't correct because there are some villager role alignments that would give us the game we are playing e.g. if there is a jack of all trades and a doctor then we have to be in 1E, or if there is a tracker, roleblocker and voyeur we are in 1D. However if the roles in 1A/B/C are outed we wouldn't be able to tell if we are in 1 or 2 unless the role cop or voyeur was outed. It'd be easier to work out if we find the role cop anyway. All that aside it doesn't feel like something a wolf would say. I think a wolf would be more careful about the potential game set up. I could be wrong, but I think sulli is probably good.This is one I might be being stupid about but who is Jim-will-fixit? Fixxxer? If so, these were the posts prior to your post about him. What makes you lean noog about him?Welcome drummer
I'd say they knew there was a sub available and put him in, rather than modkilling someone. I don't think the fact that there as a substitution is important. It's unfortunate for drumpot who may be held to account for someone else's post (one way or the other). We should judge based on Baggly and Drumpot's posts as a whole rather than if there was a modkill or not.When you say you didn't see it on the first read do you mean sulli's post?You're suspicious of cheezy but immediately then say if they had a backroom they'd be getting a bit of help. Seems a bit fence sitty to me clara.I don't view it as suspect at all, because I don't think a wolf would say that and then not back it up with anything.I agree with you on the need for Cheesy to get posting.
I've no problem with you presenting different possible arguments. I just thought the phrasing seemed odd.Did you think something was strange about people being suspicious of sulli when that was the main reason people were suspicious of her? Without having knowledge of her first post I'd have found it strange that people were that suspicious of her, especially when she has barely posted.For future use sulli
If you are a wolf then that is the best read in werewolf and they should retire on top.To be fair there is this one that could be somewhat a mechanics question. There was a question in his first post but his second post outlined that as a joke. Even the below doesn't seem like a very serious question.
Having said that it does seem strange to clear him thinking that he doesn't have a backroom because he asked mechanics questions. Surely that's exactly what a wolf would want to do to blend in. It'd look more shifty if they just hit the ground running surely. You didn't raise this possibility when discussing Drumpot earlier on, despite you saying you present both sides of the argument a la Cheezy's 'suspicious' post.
In case that wasn't clear. The accusation is being pointed towards you Clarabel, not trit.Thanks for this dandy but I've just given further reason for clarabel (two/three posts above this one), building on trit's work. It was clarabel's early view of drumpot contrasted with her view of cheezy.Not everyone can be around at all times throughout the game. There are a couple of people with very low activity levels but most have been decent enough.To be fair to trit here I actually voted after their post about Clarabel. I had been a bit suspicious earlier on but trit provided a different reason which I then combined with my first suspicion to vote for clarabel.In a way that gets you above the minimum requirements.
Advises Cheezy to post. Clears Sully. Points out sub doesn't necessarily mean role. Challenges Clara while soft defense of Cheezy. Some interaction posts. Shades Clara but says vote is based on Trit's work. Offers a soft defense of low posting but challenges Uriel for low posting, albeit jokingly. Some more discussion of mechanics in here. I really don't know. Not very much here to go on at all. Definitely not enough to say team village.0 -
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Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »Ecto and BH for two for starters. But BH has me conflicted all of a sudden, I’m not as sure as I was.
What about Bounty has you conflicted? I’m sure you have a raging dialogue going on in your head, like we all do. Don’t be afraid to share it with us. It doesn’t matter if you’re wrong. I nearly always am 0 -
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