Clare GAA discussion thread

4Ad wrote: »

Can I buy a ticket at The Gaelic Grounds ??

Yes you can from 12.30 onwards it says on Limerick gaa site

letowski wrote: »

Fitzgearld and Shangher are starting this afternoon

You can say that again.

letowski wrote: »

Fitzgearld and Shanagher are starting this afternoon

You have good sources!!

Hope we can the victory today. I’m sure we won’t make it easy for ourselves one way or the other

game going exactly as I thought it would, Clare are just out of their debt, I'm convinced the management are complete bluffers, same predictable tactics, Limerick are just streets ahead of them in every aspect of the game,

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Think keeping the Limerick half back line quiet and winning that area will be where the game is won and lost. Limerick build and start there attacks from there so need to keep them under huge pressure like cork did.

And the other thing then is that we need to have Tony in the game. Need to even throw him in full forward line for a bit if he is man marked just to disrupt that a little.

So that was hard to watch. Shambolic really. Totally dominated once again physically and couldn’t handle the tackling. Limerick turned us over so many times. Very powerful performance from limerick it must be said. Very impressive and back to favourites for the all Ireland for me.

As I stated above, the limerick half back line set the tone for the game and just won everything. We couldn’t get any possession never mind easy possession. It allowed limerick to have plenty of space for there full forward line and our backs had no chance given the space and the lovely ball going in there.

Tony anonymous again but we just weren’t allowed to play. Simple as that really.

I’ll analyse it a bit more after I drown my sorrows. Thank god it’s a bank holiday over here tomorrow

crossman47 wrote: »

And many Clare fans complained about Davy. At least he had a plan and had players playing for him.

A plan that couldn't work, but today had no plan that could work.
Fair Play to Limerick, they are a class above.

for the Cork match. Go one on one. every man has to win their own battle and start from there. No one gets carried.

And whats worse, we don't even look fit.

Hard to watch. To me, at least, (new viewer to the game lol and therefore tactically devoid) it felt like the psychology of the team played a lot into the defeat. The players didn't seem like they thought they could win from the outset, or at least that's the vibe I got. Aside from anything tactically, the team needs to re-evaluate how they play/work together and reframe their losses, they've seemed to be hit pretty hard by them this year.

Lads this team is rubbish. Forwards that can't win ball or score goals, defenders that can't defend. Nothing on the bench that's any different to what's already starting. Poor touch, poor puckouts, poor decision making, poor discipline. Shocking stuff. Waterford would beat this team if they were to play next week.

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Lads this team is rubbish. Forwards that can't win ball or score goals, defenders that can't defend. Nothing on the bench that's any different to what's already starting. Poor touch, poor puckouts, poor decision making, poor discipline. Shocking stuff. Waterford would beat this team if they were to play next week.

difference is limerick lads have to fight to get on the team where clare lads can play as bad as they like and still get picked

i hope we see the likes of cooney , aidan mccarthy and ryan and shanagher start the next day give the younger lads a chance even ryan taylor , none of these lads are found wanting when they are ever called upon

problem is they are rarely picked , management are afraid of there lives to drop anyone with a big name

o'donnell and conlon total of scores amount to 0-0 in two championship games incredible

Keano wrote: »

How do you pick the team up for Cork next week. Attendance will be way down too.

die hard 5 or 6000 will turn up supporting clare , cork will bring big numbers they need to win still

only way to do it is drop the guys not performing but that wont happen

So that’s a 30 point turn around from last year against limerick. Simply scandalous really and I’m sure if there wasn’t the Cork game the management would be gone.

The management have done great things for Clare hurling but there time is up now. Have been found out tactically the last two games completely.

Today was a very strange game. I don’t necessarily think our players didn’t try or put there best foot forward, I just think that Limerick team are well ahead of our players. They are physically much bigger and faster all over the field and still have the skills and hurling ability to go with those natural attributes. They are also coached exceptionally well.

I’d love to know the number of times we were turned over today when in possession or just were out fought for the ball in a ruck. We just didn’t win one. Limerick’s work rate was phenomenal and we got no time on the ball. They were just able to implement there game plan due to there complete dominance. Half forward line drops to near midfield and just leaves acres of space then to deliver ball into the inside forward line. Attacker will always have the advantage then given the one in one space they have and the good delivery they receive. Contrast that with our inside forwards. They were just smothered and always out numbered so had no time or space to make any runs.

Puck-outs continue to be a huge issue. Tuohy missed his short ball target a number of times but then when he goes long we just can’t win a ball. And do t really have the players against the physical size of the Tipp and limerick backs.

I’m really not sure where we go from here into the cork game. Management and players must be on the floor. But I really really want to beat Cork. We made a balls of the last two Munster finals against them and owe them a beating. No idea how we manage it though.

letowski wrote:

There is one thing to look forward to next Sunday. We get to see have our group of senior hurlers got that steel in them to bounce back and crash into Limerick down the Ennis Road next weekend. Or are they going to fold wimpishly like they did yesterday. The team showed last year a good fighting spirit versus Galway and Tipp but this is different. Clare were humiliated on their own patch yesterday and gave up 5 minutes after half time. Now its up to the leaders in that dressing pick up the team and drive on. But will they.. we will see.

Asked this question last Monday and unfortunately we got the answer we all feared.

Very hard to write a post when absolutely everything went wrong, apart from imo Duggan and Galvin. You know, from talking to Clare people these last few years since 2014 there was always that hope, like a candle, that this group of very young players have more silverware in them bc they had lots of young talent. The disaterous '14, '15 and '16 campaigns came and went, D&G came in, but still there was hope. I feel now though, today was the last bit of hope blown out. Today we were annihilated by a more younger, more talented, more bigger, more athletic and better coached team. There is no two ways of looking at it. Its really sad and dissapointing. But in reality is this day has been coming. With the exception of Duggan, we have produced not one, not one quality starter in 6 years. The well completely dried up and out of form players like Podge and Patch are still starting while limited hurlers like Malone, Cleary and Golden fill in the massive voids left behind by Bugler, Ryan and Donnellan. This was always going to back to bite us.

Hard to look forward to the short term future. Its probably likely that the management have lost the dressing room which is sad for D&G, the two have brought so much to Clare hurling. But this is the end now.

There are two things I want to say before I finish. I agree to a certain extent what Donald Trumped said about the work they have done underage through the years, but at the same time their senior managerial career has been marred by highly quedtionable tactical and personelle decisions. Ultimately they are not leaving this Clare team in much of a better situation than Davy did in '16, maybe a little better but not by much. But they have had brilliant days for us and must be appreicated and not be forgotten.
The second is that this is a group of Clare hurlers that simply dont have the talent or leadership to win an AI. Were short too many quality starters. This is harsh but thats just my opinion. We badly need new quality hurlers coming true. But thats another huge problem as the underage structures arent in place.

This is a dark time for Clare hurling. Sorry about the depressing post but im genuinely just being honest with what im seeing.