The Virtues (new drama from Shane Meadows)

CoBo55 · 06-06-2019 02:27PM

weemcd wrote: »

Niamh Algar is a superstar in the making, I would literally watch anything if I heard she was in it. This is some of the finest and most natural acting I have ever seen, from the entire cast btw.

Give Pure a look, she's fantastic in it( not hard on the eye either).... With her youth club tits!!!

weemcd · 06-06-2019 03:46PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Give Pure a look, she's fantastic in it( not hard on the eye either).... With her youth club tits!!!

Oh I definitely have a crush on her now

Unearthly · 06-06-2019 07:20PM

Brilliant show. Fantastic acting all round.

Taiga · 06-06-2019 08:31PM

Jesus Stephen Graham does sorrow to a tee doesn't he? Amazing actor. I like the ending. I was glad he didn't take that drink, I was shouting at the telly. Glad he didn't get himself into trouble and walked away.

Between The Virtues and Chernobly this week we've had some amazing telly, but I'm an emotional wreck!

Basq · 06-06-2019 09:41PM

Jesus, I knew this would be good with Meadows at the helm but it really was absolutely breathtaking TV.

Incredible stuff which deserves all the accolades it gets.

jos28 · 06-06-2019 09:50PM

I was shouting at the telly during that scene too, I was delighted when he walked out of the pub. I liked the ending with Stephen Graham and your man from Glenroe, I'm glad it ended that way. Not so happy about your wan and her mother. I would have rather she pushed her and she hit her head or something. I suppose I wanted the happy ending with all demons faced and Joe and Dinah setting up home together. But that was never going to happen

joe_99 · 06-06-2019 11:26PM

Superb TV. Will live in the memory a while.

BadTurtle · 07-06-2019 12:22AM

Between The Virtues, This Is England and Dead Mans Shoes, Meadows does cataclysmic finales like nobody else in the business. Every one of them had me holding my breath and gripping onto something for dear life.
Stephen Graham is easily one of the best actors working these days, keeps one-upping his own performances. So funny looking back on him and Jason Statham in Snatch now.

Ashbourne hoop · 07-06-2019 11:59AM

BadTurtle wrote: »

Between The Virtues, This Is England and Dead Mans Shoes, Meadows does cataclysmic finales like nobody else in the business. Every one of them had me holding my breath and gripping onto something for dear life.
Stephen Graham is easily one of the best actors working these days, keeps one-upping his own performances. So funny looking back on him and Jason Statham in Snatch now.

And he was brilliant in that too.

maximoose · 07-06-2019 12:05PM

Unbelievable TV, Stephen Graham is incredible but the entire cast was brilliant - acting was so natural throughout.

mada82 · 07-06-2019 12:18PM

Great series. Really enjoyed. I loved this is England too.

selwyn froggitt · 07-06-2019 01:51PM

Shane Meadows doesn't do nice, and he must now be one of the masters of gritty, broken Britain drama's.
Loved this series,superb.

Goodigal · 07-06-2019 04:27PM

Totally absorbing and harrowing stories. Loved Helen Behan in it. Her character reminded me of me in the car looking for an address! But the build up to the ending was incredible. Loved the fact that it was 90 mins long - I was not aware of that when I started to watch it, but I wouldn't turn it off!

cdgalwegian · 08-06-2019 08:35PM

BadTurtle wrote: »

Between The Virtues, This Is England and Dead Mans Shoes, Meadows does cataclysmic finales like nobody else in the business. Every one of them had me holding my breath and gripping onto something for dear life.

Absolutely.

Wasn't sure whether to carry on after first episode of the Virtues, which was heart-wrenching, but soldiered on. I was rewarded though, as the tone varies as the plot progresses, which- adding to the fantastic acting- makes it compelling viewing.

ps; using the VHS footage in cinema verité style was genius.

Andrea B. · 08-06-2019 08:48PM

Excellent throughout.
The pissupfromhell in e1 brought the viewer in. I could feel the pain, embarrassment, sickness, guilt.

jos28 · 08-06-2019 09:42PM

Just watched Barry Keoghan on Tommy Tiernan, very good interview. Shane Meadows needs to give Barry a call, I'd love to see a collaboration between the 2 of them.

trashcan · 08-06-2019 10:02PM

Goodigal wrote: »

Totally absorbing and harrowing stories. Loved Helen Behan in it. Her character reminded me of me in the car looking for an address! But the build up to the ending was incredible. Loved the fact that it was 90 mins long - I was not aware of that when I started to watch it, but I wouldn't turn it off!

Yeah I thought she was brilliant. Standout for me. Stephen Graham is always great, obviously , but Helen Behan was absolutely superb. Totally believeable and natural. It was like watching someone on a hidden camera show rather than someone acting.

wezzopalooza · 08-06-2019 10:13PM

That finale was one strong cup of coffee! :eek:

Niamh Algar stole the show for me, unbelievable acting work. In episode 1 I thought she would be the more annoying/unsympathetic character of the show but ended up being the complete opposite. Just wanted to give her a hug!

Some very provocative ideas about the cyclic nature of abuse in there too, and how so many abusers have been abused themselves and is a learned behavior. I like that it also gave the counter argument to this, very thought provoking. Meadows genius is that on the surface it appears to be simple, slow burning storytelling but there's a lot going on under the surface. The flipping of audience expectations at the end with Dinah and Joe was very clever too.

Even for a feature length episode, it seemed to end abruptly. Got the feeling he's maybe leaving the door open for another series or even a special sometime in the future. In any event, a remarkable piece of grim tv

:)

holly8 · 09-06-2019 03:10AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

What was the sister in? It's driving me nuts, was it A Date for mad Mary? She played the very same character in whatever it was.

Found her, she was in a Ch4 series "Pure", well worth a look, she's a great actress.

She was also in The Drummer and The Keeper, Irish movie

dom40 · 09-06-2019 12:28PM

really great last 90 minute episode with superb acting all round,i just wish they filmed it in ireland instead of Yorkshire,passing off yorkshire as Ireland just spoiled it a wee bit for me.

bobbyss · 09-06-2019 01:23PM

dom40 wrote:

really great last 90 minute episode with superb acting all round,i just wish they filmed it in ireland instead of Yorkshire,passing off yorkshire as Ireland just spoiled it a wee bit for me.

He got Irish reg cars any way did you notice? One CE I think anyway. But I suppose nobody outside of UK would think it wasn't Ireland. Maybe inside UK too. Most probably cheaper to film in UK.

cdgalwegian · 09-06-2019 01:24PM

dom40 wrote: »

really great last 90 minute episode with superb acting all round,i just wish they filmed it in ireland instead of Yorkshire,passing off yorkshire as Ireland just spoiled it a wee bit for me.

The pub was obviously an English pub, but didn't pay it no never mind.

dom40 · 09-06-2019 04:12PM

bobbyss wrote: »

He got Irish reg cars any way did you notice? One CE I think anyway. But I suppose nobody outside of UK would think it wasn't Ireland. Maybe inside UK too. Most probably cheaper to film in UK.

yes i noticed the car regs were all irish they even had the insurance/tax/nct discs on some of the windscreens.

CoBo55 · 09-06-2019 04:17PM

Pumping the pints was a bit of a turn off, only us paddies would notice it.

dom40 · 09-06-2019 04:39PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Pumping the pints was a bit of a turn off, only us paddies would notice it.

noticed that in the first episode the pup was as english as feck they tried to make it look irish with the tricolours hanging everywere .

Basq · 09-06-2019 04:44PM

dom40 wrote: »

noticed that in the first episode the pup was as english as feck they tried to make it look irish with the tricolours hanging everywere .

To be fair.. he was still in Liverpool in the first episode in an "Irish bar".. not too uncommon over there I'd say.

dom40 · 09-06-2019 07:34PM

Basq wrote: »

To be fair.. he was still in Liverpool in the first episode in an "Irish bar".. not too uncommon over there I'd say.

true i forgot that,but the pub he went into in the last episode was supposed to be in ireland but it was as english as the queens head.

cml387 · 09-06-2019 11:10PM

I noticed a comment in The Guardian that the final scene was reshot after the wrap party.

I have no idea what happened but apparently it was felt by the cast that the finale was too redemptive??

If anyone has any more details it would be very welcome.

09-06-2019 11:24PM

I started getting pissy in ep4 when the town he went to was so obviously not in Ireland!

The acting and casting was superb. I don't know that I could pick out another show that was cast so well. The children were utterly awesome, they didn't even look like they were acting, which really sold me. Helen Behan was brilliant but for me Niamh Algar stole it.

The whole downward spiral in eposide 1 was incredibly true to life and really have to say I have rarely seen better television.

fitzparker · 10-06-2019 08:38AM

dom40 wrote: »

yes i noticed the car regs were all irish they even had the insurance/tax/nct discs on some of the windscreens.

I noticed every car reg was from a different county and although in louth I dont think I spotted an LH reg

:)

The Virtues (new drama from Shane Meadows)

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