Most difficult career path?

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Western civilisation is coming to an end. Once religion goes the whole moral compass is gone and society collapses. The same way as it did in Rome Greece and the Tsars. Civil servants are like cockroaches they survive everything.

Oh.

People study fine art but to genuinely try to make a career of it is asking for fine poverty. (Pity)

I think the UK spends several multiple times the amount of money on pringles than they do on art.

Sales in the Telecoms or Hi Tech sector! The money is good but you’ll always have someone breathing down your neck looking for results. The stress can be off the scale, it’s a young mans game and you are only as good as your last month. I’ve seen lots of casualties over the years, good people who’s luck ran out or who’s face didn’t fit...

DanDan6592 wrote: »

What area of science/research are you in?

I'm hoping he replies Star Trek

Jockeys and saddle bronc riders.



Saddle bronc riding.

By the way they are NOT wild horses or half wild. There are few to no wild horse breeds really any more mustangs are feral horses that escaped and bred out in the wild they still actually have a lot of domestication in them.

But these are specifically bred for a large buck. Then get this ....THEY TRAIN THE HORSE TO BUCK YOU OFF! THESE PEOPLE TRAIN THESE HORSES TO DO THIS.

They use a strap around the back end the horse is trained to stop when the strap around the back is released.



You watch this and you hear crazy things like ...yeah its a beautiful horse its going to give this cowboy the bucking ride of his life. And you think COWBOYS ARE INSANE!

Don't worry the horses are well looked after. And without the strap they are just normal horses.

They make teary tributes to the greats.

Those horses are athletes too. Imagine bucking like that non stop for minutes.

I think of feel like these people would become stunt men and jump out of moving cars.

Jockeys. Lot of admiration for them. Amazing horsemen. But also absolutely NUTS.

Ruby Walsh is riding a leftie horse on a right hand track ...and WINS

firstlight wrote: »

Truck driving
A minimum wage job with big responsibility and stupid long hours for no reward

Yeah it's a nightmare trying to get by on about a grand a week visiting every country in Europe and seeing new places all the time.
Not forgetting making tough decisions about what podcast or play list to listen to!

Oh and the hours are strictly regulated with hefty fines to keep you honest.

sbsquarepants wrote: »

The world doesn't necessarily value things just because they are difficult.

Friend of mine was telling me a story about her sister, recently achieved a phd (something to do with neuroscience, I'm not quite sure of the specifics) She was applying for a research job in Trinity in the very thing she has the phd in - it paid 29K:eek:

The add below it was for a window cleaner - paid 30k

There's very little doubt this girl is more intelligent than the window cleaner....but smarter? He's basically gotten to the same point it has taken her a decade of hard work to reach, by buying a bucket!

Did you helpfully point that out to her?

Low level Pro Golfer
Having to pay for your flights, accommodation etc - you might win a low level tournament that nets you 25k but you just about break even.

Obviously if you make it then the dark days are well behind you.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Also Actors.

All the rejection. The humiliation. People seeing all your mistakes and the general public judging you.

Kinda agree but I've worked with a myriad of "professional" actors (as in going from one crap paid job to another) and most of them think they're super intellectual, hot sh1t, sophisticated and generally a huge number of them are absolutely awful and entitled people. I worked on a set for a short film year ago and the producer crashed his car on the way to pick the lead actress up. Nothing happened to him, he rang her and told her why he'd be running late, still in a total shock state and all she had to say was "yeah but don't forget my coffee and the cigarettes".

LirW wrote: »

Kinda agree but I've worked with a myriad of "professional" actors (as in going from one crap paid job to another) and most of them think they're super intellectual, hot sh1t, sophisticated and generally a huge number of them are absolutely awful and entitled people. I worked on a set for a short film year ago and the producer crashed his car on the way to pick the lead actress up. Nothing happened to him, he rang her and told her why he'd be running late, still in a total shock state and all she had to say was "yeah but don't forget my coffee and the cigarettes".

Good lord what a bitch.

razorblunt wrote: »

++ The stress of hiting the monetary targets and the Qualifying School in the event it doesn't work out.

It's not that easy near the top either.

Google Lucas Glover's wife.

I have to agree about commercial pilots - as many said already, just to access the path you need to rack up a mortgage-level of debt at a young age; Then the LCC model success drove salaries and career prospects.

On top of that, a lot of people don't realize the massive responsibilities and pressure on the shoulders of the folks up on the flightdeck - a small blunder or one decision the airline doesn't like, and you're screwed; Pilots getting fired for speaking up about safety issues or for taking actions that prevented a potential accident but ended up costing the airline money (e.g. a "go around") isn't exactly something unheard of.

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

Engineering. College hours were equivalent to a full time job. Not including assignments, projects and study.

Start a job and you're getting bet down by clipboard merchants and accounts. Spend months meticulously designing (or fixing problems). Then, on completion some fupper from sales and marketing decides to change to colour and gets a nice big bonus for their troubles.

College was indeed often a 9 to 6 affair, and once you're home you basically need to study day-by-day.

But that's by far not the worst - you get into a career that offers a good starting salary...and that's about all that's good with it.

It rapidly becomes clear that, unless you happen to work for one of a selected few "super-engineering focused" companies, you're in a dead end career path where you'll always be at the bottom of the ladder, someone else gets credit for your job and you get blamed for the failures.

When things go well, you get to sit in cringeworthy circle-fap "all hands" meetings where Jane and John from sales get a big recognition for their "effort" in "relentlessly pursuing the business opportunity" and "making this possible", with a complimentary bonus check at the end of the month, while the people doing the actual job basically don't exist.

When things go wrong, boy oh boy, that's when the fun begins! You get to sit in a similar crigeworthy "post-mortem" meeting where everyone gives out about these incompetent smelly nerds in engineering who can't put two lines of code or a couple of diode bridges together; Poor John and Jane from sales did all the hard work promising idiotic features to the customer, coming up constantly moving goalposts and ignoring Ben and Sue from engineering when they pointed out, multiple times, that what they wanted couldn't possibly work.

And then, if you're in IT, there are the "tech fads" ; Oh the fun!

TL;DR - Engineering, just don't do it.