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Hidden Costs with a New Built Home

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  • #32
    ted1
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    Never heard of tegola but it quickly looked it up and it seems to be thinner than kronoswiss.

    12mm v 14mm


  • #33
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Don't rule out engineered if you can stretch to it. The sticker prices on those pictures weren't far off some of these https://www.woodfloorwarehouse.ie/engineered-wood-flooring

    Someone asked for some site's, plenty out there like SkyBad for bathrooms https://www.skybad.de/en/ shipping is cheap.
    I've saved a bit on https://www.mk2shop.co.uk as well.


  • #34
    BryanF
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    as per forum charter
    With the exception of large, national or multi-national businesses who really don’t need the free advertising , posts naming specific companies/traders and/or their products are discouraged and may be deleted and the poster warned or banned or both. Let’s get back to the Original query. Thanks


  • #35
    masterboy123
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    Engineered Wood is 13 mm as opposed to S
    KronoSwiss which is 14 mm. I will try to get hands on KronoSwiss, some oak colours are available at a discounted rate and looks class.

    Any other costs? Someone recommended to get a water pump to get pressurised water, how much do they cost?
    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Don't rule out engineered if you can stretch to it. The sticker prices on those pictures weren't far off some of these https://www.woodfloorwarehouse.ie/engineered-wood-flooring

    Someone asked for some site's, plenty out there like SkyBad for bathrooms https://www.skybad.de/en/ shipping is cheap.
    I've saved a bit on https://www.mk2shop.co.uk as well.


  • #36
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    masterboy123 wrote: »
    Engineered Wood is 13 mm as opposed to S
    KronoSwiss which is 14 mm. I will try to get hands on KronoSwiss, some oak colours are available at a discounted rate and looks class.

    Any other costs? Someone recommended to get a water pump to get pressurised water, how much do they cost?

    Pump plus fitting could be €1k.
    It’s not a requirement and not needed in the vast amount of properties so it should not be in a thread of hidden costs.

    You also have to make sure the pump doesn’t go in where it can effect showers and other appliances that specifically state not to be pumped with water n


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  • #37
    masterboy123
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    So is water pressure pump required in a new built home?


  • #38
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    masterboy123 wrote: »
    Engineered Wood is 13 mm as opposed to S
    KronoSwiss which is 14 mm. I will try to get hands on KronoSwiss, some oak colours are available at a discounted rate and looks class.

    Any other costs? Someone recommended to get a water pump to get pressurised water, how much do they cost?

    Your missing the difference between the two. Your looking at mm and assuming one is better based on that. If there was a wooden top on the laminate it would be engineered.
    Get a plank of a wood floor, and engineered plank and a laminate plank in your hand and compare them, the difference will be obvious. A 13mm engineered means it has a 13mm hard wood top, the laminate contains no hardwood layer and is a printer pattern. If you were renting I'd say go for the laminate but if this is your home I'd urge you to put in the real thing. If it's a large area it may be very costly and then it's understandable why you might go for a laminate but it doesn't sound like your doing a large area. It's all down to cost price price don't rule out one when you don't even know the cost difference yet.

    If your getting a pump you may need a bigger water tank as the flow rate is going to be a lot more so you'll empty the tank quicker with a rain shower or similar. Not sure what tank they've put in it may be good enough.
    The benefit of doing this is a lot stronger water flow from taps and pumped showers. If your using electric showers you won't really notice anything.
    Pump and tank, shop around maybe €1200ish, think that's around what I paid. Made the mistake of buying a non brand shower and had to replace it after 3yrs as couldn't get parts. Installed a Grohe one a few month ago hoping it'll last a lot longer and spare parts are available so no need to dump the shower if something goes wrong.


  • #39
    drunkmonkey
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    masterboy123 wrote: »
    So is water pressure pump required in a new built home?

    Depends on your water pressure. Do you know what its like in the new house. You'll need a pump if you want a pressurised water system as in stong flow of water from taps and showers.


  • #40
    looksee
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    I had engineered wood in two rooms and laminate in three. I am talking about recent, good quality laminate, and there was no comparison between the two. The engineered wood looked sad very quickly. The laminate looked great and never changed. I normally hate things that are made to look like something else, but (modern) laminate floors is one that I would go with for preference now. All that stuff about cardboard and mush just shows that the poster has not looked at recent laminates.


  • #41
    drunkmonkey
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    If it tired very quickly it didn't have a good quality veneer. You should look for something suitable for commercial use if it's in a high traffic area. That will require little or no manitaning.
    If your floors are tired give them a sanding and put on a good veneer and they'll be as good as new.


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  • #42
    masterboy123
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    Well plumbing hasn't been completed yet in the house so I am not sure about the water pressure.

    However given its going to cost 1200 euros plus water tank isn't big enough, so I have to leave it as it is.

    And regarding flooring I hope to get lamited Kronoswiss. Looks like a fair deal to me.
    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Depends on your water pressure. Do you know what its like in the new house. You'll need a pump if you want a pressurised water system as in stong flow of water from taps and showers.


  • #43
    drunkmonkey
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    You have to have a water tank and the plumbing anyway, so your taking about paying a bit extra for a bigger tank maybe. So it's just the cost of the pump.
    Your opting for that floor because of some of the comments here. There just opinions. Laminate is not better than engineered if can be in some circumstances but as a rule of thumb engineered is better.. So work out your budget and see what the comparison cost is before ruling out other flooring options. Your really need to research flooring as I'm still not convinced you understand the difference.
    Your basically saying I want a fake wood floor over a wood floor regardless of cost. Fake is Fake no matter what way it's pitched.


  • #44
    Gumbo
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    masterboy123 wrote: »
    So is water pressure pump required in a new built home?

    Not required. Optional.


  • #45
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    masterboy123 wrote: »
    Well plumbing hasn't been completed yet in the house so I am not sure about the water pressure.

    However given its going to cost 1200 euros plus water tank isn't big enough, so I have to leave it as it is.

    And regarding flooring I hope to get lamited Kronoswiss. Looks like a fair deal to me.

    Would love to see this development.
    Based on your other threads you have no adequate hot water tank either.


  • #46
    drunkmonkey
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    It does sound strange, along with the suggestion bidding got a bit carried away. It sounds like a shell, is it even insulated. Is there doors, if they only stuck up the cheapest ones that's probably something worth looking at as well as nice doors can really lift the look of the house.


  • #47
    masterboy123
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    Well, there are doors definitely. And good quality doors and windows as it's a A3 rating house.

    The lot size is 250 square meter. Garden seeded and tarmacadam front :D

    I understand my posts don't make sense at times, but hey I am learning and doing research online as my profession is in Healthcare.

    And thanks to you all! Always got really good advice here.


  • #48
    Gumbo
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    masterboy123 wrote: »
    Well, there are doors definitely. And good quality doors and windows as it's a A3 rating house.

    The lot size is 250 square meter. Garden seeded and tarmacadam front :D

    I understand my posts don't make sense at times, but hey I am learning and doing research online as my profession is in Healthcare.

    And thanks to you all! Always got really good advice here.

    FYI
    A3 is the minimum requirement under the building regulations. It’s what every house in the county has to meet at a minimum so don’t let the fancy A3 stickers fool you.

    It’s like selling a. Rand. Ew car from a big showroom and a sticker on the window saying NCT Passed!


  • #49
    Radsky
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    ted1 wrote: »
    Poor quality laminate is different than 14mm stuff like kronoswiss.

    I put down the cheap laminate in rental properties as you can change it every few years fir cheap. But I wouldn’t think about putting it in my house.

    Where did you get the kronoswiss laminates? Is it advisable to use it in kitchen with possibility of flooding / water damage?


  • #50
    masterboy123
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    It's not recommended to use kronoSwiss on bathrooms as there maybe slight swelling.

    It's good in living room, bedrooms, and kitchen if you don't spill water regularly there.
    Radsky wrote: »
    Where did you get the kronoswiss laminates? Is it advisable to use it in kitchen with possibility of flooding / water damage?


  • #51
    ted1
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    Radsky wrote: »
    Where did you get the kronoswiss laminates? Is it advisable to use it in kitchen with possibility of flooding / water damage?

    I think it might have been Des Kelly in Sandyford, we have tiles in the kitchen. So not sure about use for kitchen. I I know you can definitely get waterproof stuff there , just not sure which brand


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  • #52
    drunkmonkey
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    Where's all this flooding coming out of in the kitchen. You'd want to be very unlucky or have a bad plumber.
    Pick a commercial grade floor and you'll be fine regardless of what you choose. Don't leave sitting liquid on any floor for over an hour or two.
    With a pressurised system you'll hear the pump running non stop or cutting in and out if there's a slight leak even from a tap.
    I'd be more concerned about about an upstairs shower leaking than something in the kitchen unless the clothes washing machine is in there.


  • #53
    awec
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    Radsky wrote: »
    Where did you get the kronoswiss laminates? Is it advisable to use it in kitchen with possibility of flooding / water damage?

    Matt Britton sell it.

    We have it in our kitchen.


  • #54
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Where's all this flooding coming out of in the kitchen. You'd want to be very unlucky or have a bad plumber.
    Pick a commercial grade floor and you'll be fine regardless of what you choose. Don't leave sitting liquid on any floor for over an hour or two.
    With a pressurised system you'll hear the pump running non stop or cutting in and out if there's a slight leak even from a tap.
    I'd be more concerned about about an upstairs shower leaking than something in the kitchen unless the clothes washing machine is in there.

    As my three year old says. “I made it rain indoors” as she blocks the sink upstairs and floods the place ...


  • #55
    drunkmonkey
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    That's a paddling. Young lad flooded the bathroom once but was all tiles, was heading like a river to the carpet but Charles sorted it out rapidly, great hoover, literally will hoover anything Henry Charles/CVC 370-2/824615 Wet and Dry Vacuum Cleaner, 15 Litre, 1060 W, Blue https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00014AVUY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_VPr-CbDYKNRCX


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