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Camera in the pub toilets?

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  • #62
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Unlicensed security installers have been convicted Section 37 of Private Security Authority Act..

    There's a clear difference between a "private security authority" and an "individual".


  • #63
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    corner of hells wrote: »
    What about pretend CCTV, dummy cameras?

    Probably falls under the Section 37 of Private Dummy Security Authority Act


  • #64
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    antodeco wrote: »
    Yes, because despite the "multiple quotes about statues" you are not classing yourself as a security entity. You just need to make sure your CCTV is not excessively/unnaturally capturing away from your property.

    You mean you are just filming in your own home like a nanny cam? Only maybe in the garden?


  • #65
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2004/act/12/enacted/en/print#sec2

    Jog on please.


  • #66
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    You mean you are just filming in your own home like a nanny cam? Only maybe in the garden?

    Yes, but as you've quoted multiple times this is illegal...


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  • #67
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Can I install CCTV in my own house , myself?

    Of course you can.


  • #68
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    no

    Egh..., Wrong....


  • #69
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    corner of hells wrote: »
    What about pretend CCTV, dummy cameras?
    yes fine


  • #70
    Get Real
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭Get Real


    Very common to have cameras in toilets. Generally viewing sink area and "walking" area. Don't show inside stalls and urinals it's all legal.

    Next time you're in the toilets of a pub or McDonalds, look for a "smoke alarm" with black plastic in between actual "vents". Perfectly legal camera.


  • #71
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    yes

    Do I need a dog license for my stuffed dog ?


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  • #72
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    Jog on please.




    Im right.


  • #73
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Do I need a dog license for my stuffed dog ?
    nope

    I mean yes dummy cams are fine!


  • #74
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    People just don't like being shown for fools.


  • #75
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Im right.

    Nope


  • #76
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Im right.

    No you are not. You keep quoting people acting as a security installed/security entity/security personnel.

    I agree 100% with you that security companies are heavily legislated. However, a person, acting as an individual, for personal purposes, does not fall under any of these statutes.


  • #77
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    no

    Eh, yes you can. Anyone can install it for free, you can only party a registered installer to install a CCTV security system.

    If CCTV is being used to monitor a non security process, anyone can install it.


  • #78
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    People just don't like being shown for fools.

    Oy one on here so far..... They havent a breeze


  • #79
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    People just don't like being shown for fools.


    For the third time: Can you show where LAs act as data controller for private commercial business?


  • #80
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    For the third time: Can you show where LAs act as data controller for private commercial business?


    I never said that. I said for cctv installed as part of a community scheme. And yes said community scheme can monitor private business. And they get it done for free that way.

    But obv the pub is the data controller and its policy must be compliant.


  • #81
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Jesus lads, the smell of crack in this place is mental. Definitely somebody is smoking crack in here.


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  • #82
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    The local authority undertakes role as data controller and all heightened obligations and caveats.

    It has to be approved by guards and the local authority. They must act accordingly.

    Things like dash cams can infringe privacy law. Because people with them are collecting data they become 'data controllers'. And as a data controller you have obligations and conduct etc.



    Certain CCTV that is unverified by local authority may not be admissible in court. As it could be argued it has not been obtained fairly. So they are open to legal challenge.


    Same with dash cam stuff.

    And yes there are lots of CCTVs without authority around the country.

    There are certain community schemes at one point local authorities didn't want to act as data controllers for. So they had to be re-verified by a policing committee.

    You quoted it.


  • #83
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    You quoted it.

    And that's correct.


  • #84
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Horse dead, stop flogging.


  • #85
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,299 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    This was covered in the electrical forum last year.

    Someone was insisting the it was illegal for an electrician or homeowner to install & maintaine electric gates to their property. After much debate it was established that if the gates were for security then only licensed installer can do it. However if they are not for security then anyone can install them.

    I'm sure the same works for home CCTV. You could be keeping an eye on your dog in the garden. If the CCTV isn't for security then anyone can install it


  • #86
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    OMG you guys in the other thread thought the other guy couldn't be a data controller ...because 'individuals can't be data controllers!'


  • #87
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    This was covered in the electrical forum last year.

    Someone was insisting the it was illegal for an electrician or homeowner to install & maintaine electric gates to their property. After much debate it was established that if the gates were for security then only licensed installer can do it. However if they are not for security then anyone can install them.

    I'm sure the same works for home CCTV. You could be keeping an eye on your dog in the garden. If the CCTV isn't for security then anyone can install it
    Yep.

    The issue doesn't matter so much for gates. You won't have to use gates in court.

    But then since the CCTV etc is usually just used to deter etc.

    You are still a data controller though.


  • #88
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    This was covered in the electrical forum last year.

    Someone was insisting the it was illegal for an electrician or homeowner to install & maintaine electric gates to their property. After much debate it was established that if the gates were for security then only licensed installer can do it. However if they are not for security then anyone can install them.

    I'm sure the same works for home CCTV. You could be keeping an eye on your dog in the garden. If the CCTV isn't for security then anyone can install it

    If only an electrician or alarm engineer was available tonight.


  • #89
    Force Carrier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    It could be a human rights violation for preventing you taking a piss in privacy.

    I've just emailed Mary Robinson to get an answer on that.


  • #90
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I put it in so I can look back at how beautiful I am.,..

    Don't need a licence for that....


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  • #91
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    corner of hells wrote: »
    If only an electrician or alarm engineer was available tonight.

    I'm the punisher is that not enough...


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