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phat1 · 30-05-2019 07:47PM

unkel wrote: »

So €1350 before grant? That seems extremely expensive. Why didn't you go for the Zappi that you got a quote for of €1100? It has a built-in priority switch

Most chargers are waterproof, they are designed to live outdoors in any weather

I think the way EV’s are going I will need a second EV in a year or 2, so decided to get the priority switch now, I know the Zappi has it built in, plus the wall box seems like a good charger. If I had the priority switch in the house already,the wall box would be an easy decision. I have got prices from 4-5 companies and they are all similar in price give or take €50.

If you think I can get it done cheaper please let me know, I seen a charger called a Juice box and would like that one as it had great reviews

Thanks

_dof_ · 30-05-2019 08:40PM

phat1 wrote: »

I think the way EV’s are going I will need a second EV in a year or 2, so decided to get the priority switch now, I know the Zappi has it built in, plus the wall box seems like a good charger. If I had the priority switch in the house already,the wall box would be an easy decision. I have got prices from 4-5 companies and they are all similar in price give or take €50.

If you think I can get it done cheaper please let me know, I seen a charger called a Juice box and would like that one as it had great reviews

Thanks

You'd be better off getting the Zappi for 585 and get the local sparks to install it , It should only cost you a couple of hundred quid on top of the grant. You don't need a 3 phase charger for the Leaf and the fact you wouldn't need the priority switch is also saving a couple of hundred.

If you plan to get a second charger in a few years, that it would make even more sense to get a Zappi because 2 Zappis would share the power, and no need for yet another priority switch.

Black_Knight · 31-05-2019 08:00AM

Just put in my order for a Wallpod, untethered, with KW usage monitoring.

Fingers crossed my 8m coiled charging cable will be practically useful. The coiled nature of it kinda makes it less than 8m long. Fingers crossed a bit of use might stretch/loosen it out.

eoin42 · 01-06-2019 05:15PM

I got one a wallbox pulsar few months back.
You may not be aware that when charging there is a constant pulse of light which does look quite nice but I did not want to draw unnecessary attention to the charger due to its location. Not possible to have no light so I had to cover it in black ducktape as advised by the supplier. You may want this feature of course.

eoin42 · 01-06-2019 05:17PM

phat1 wrote: »

Going to go with the Wall Box Pulsar as it seems the best value at the moment, 750 euro after the grant of 600 is, bit of a sting but needs to be done, the charger will be out side all the time, hopefully it will be ok weather wise.

I got one a wallbox pulsar few months back.
You may not be aware that when charging there is a constant pulse of light which does look quite nice but I did not want to draw unnecessary attention to the charger due to its location. Not possible to have no light so I had to cover it in black ducktape as advised by the supplier. You may want this feature of course.

CarefulNow! · 03-06-2019 10:22AM

I have the ESB chargebox that they were giving out with ev purchases up to 2017. I need an install and quotes are high enough just to install. Any good contacts for install in Dublin?

BoatMad · 04-06-2019 09:22AM

Whatever you do , buy a tethered one , far more convenient

phat1 · 07-06-2019 02:07PM

Hi can anyone recommend a car charger, I went to buy a Zappi and the guy selling them said they are not the best, and to buy an Elvi by Evbox as he said it is very good, price was €595 plus vat, I have a local spark that will fit the box, I am going to run the cable myself, to keep the cost down, thanks for any help

DrPhilG · 07-06-2019 02:33PM

phat1 wrote: »

Hi can anyone recommend a car charger, I went to buy a Zappi and the guy selling them said they are not the best, and to buy an Elvi by Evbox as he said it is very good, price was €595 plus vat, I have a local spark that will fit the box, I am going to run the cable myself, to keep the cost down, thanks for any help

I do wonder who "the guy selling them" was?

And does he have a better margin on the Elvi than on the Zappi?

phat1 · 07-06-2019 02:57PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

I do wonder who "the guy selling them" was?

And does he have a better margin on the Elvi than on the Zappi?

To be fair he seemed nice, he just said the Zappi is a bit dated and the Elvi box is a better box, still think I will get the Zappi just want to see what people think who have more knowledge than me.

unkel · 07-06-2019 05:18PM

To be fair there have been quite a few problems with Zappi owners on this forum. Myenergi saying themselves that the Zappi doesn't really work with hybrid inverters was a bit of a shocker to me, but I applaud their honesty.

I would be reluctant to go for one based on these reports alone, I feel they are overpriced, particularly the new untethered models, but I love the idea you can charge your car with excess solar (there is only one other - Open EVSE - that can do that afaik)

Round Cable · 07-06-2019 07:56PM

unkel wrote: »

I would be reluctant to go for one based on these reports alone, I feel they are overpriced, particularly the new untethered models, but I love the idea you can charge your car with excess solar (there is only one other - Open EVSE - that can do that afaik)

Rolec are releasing a similar product this month. It'll be interesting to see how well it works. £496 inc VAT, untheatered.

https://evonestop.co.uk/collections/solar/products/copy-of-wallpod-ev-charging-unit-type-2-socket-16-32-amp3-6-7-2kw-ip65?variant=11473390731311

unkel · 07-06-2019 08:09PM

Ditto. But I'm about to install 18kWh home attached battery storage, so no longer relevant to me

Your link shows GBP10 deposit + GBP395 + VAT, so EUR544 + shipping. Ouch.

Round Cable · 07-06-2019 08:41PM

unkel wrote: »

Ditto. But I'm about to install 18kWh home attached battery storage, so no longer relevant to me

Tesla Powerwall or another system?

unkel · 07-06-2019 09:02PM

Oh no, good old lead acid batteries

KELTICKNIGHTT · 07-06-2019 11:24PM

unkel wrote: »

To be fair there have been quite a few problems with Zappi owners on this forum. Myenergi saying themselves that the Zappi doesn't really work with hybrid inverters was a bit of a shocker to me, but I applaud their honesty.

I would be reluctant to go for one based on these reports alone, I feel they are overpriced, particularly the new untethered models, but I love the idea you can charge your car with excess solar (there is only one other - Open EVSE - that can do that afaik)

Does mean they be problem charging Outlander phev with zappi ?

denismc · 08-06-2019 03:39PM

To be fair to Myenergi, they are a very new company and have had a few teething issues with their products, I had a few issues with their products but that is mainly due to how they are set-up.
I think part of the problem in Ireland is that many of the installers here don't seem to have an in depth knowledge of how these devices work.
I had a few issues with firmware upgrades that were sorted over a couple of phone calls, and now my system is running perfectly.

I think they are starting to run training days for installers in Ireland now which should improve things.

BTW their new app is available, it looks great but I haven't had a chance to test it yet as their servers seem to be offline!

dmcg90 · 08-06-2019 08:26PM

Getting my first EV next month (e-Niro) and I need a home charger for it.

Any recommendations for a good Dublin installer? Have 4 PV Solar pannels so I'm thinking Zappi but open to ideas.

Really like the look of Andsersen chargers but can't find anyone that sells them in Ireland.

denismc · 09-06-2019 10:04AM

dmcg90 wrote: »

Getting my first EV next month (e-Niro) and I need a home charger for it.

Any recommendations for a good Dublin installer? Have 4 PV Solar pannels so I'm thinking Zappi but open to ideas.

Really like the look of Andsersen chargers but can't find anyone that sells them in Ireland.

4 panels are not going to produce enough electricity on their own to charge your car, you need a minimum of 1.4kw , but the Zappi will charge at minimum of 1.4 kW which will maximize your PV panels if you are happy to charge at this rate.
I hope that makes sense?

n97 mini · 09-06-2019 10:22AM

denismc wrote: »

4 panels are not going to produce enough electricity on their own to charge your car, you need a minimum of 1.4kw , but the Zappi will charge at minimum of 1.4 kW which will maximize your PV panels if you are happy to charge at this rate.
I hope that makes sense?

What he said. Not worth paying extra for a Zappi, you'll never get your money back. Just charge on night rate electricity instead.

phat1 · 09-06-2019 11:24AM

Can anybody recommend an EV Charger? Thanks

Gumbo · 09-06-2019 12:10PM

phat1 wrote: »

Can anybody recommend an EV Charger? Thanks

Do you have or plan to install solar PV?

phat1 · 09-06-2019 12:23PM

kceire wrote: »

Do you have or plan to install solar PV?

I do not have solar PV and do not plan on it in the future, I am thinking that I should consider this as an option now, I just don’t want to pay €600+ for an EV Charger and it’s not what I need. Thanks

Gumbo · 09-06-2019 08:34PM

phat1 wrote: »

I do not have solar PV and do not plan on it in the future, I am thinking that I should consider this as an option now, I just don’t want to pay €600+ for an EV Charger and it’s not what I need. Thanks

It’s a plug for your car. There’s not a lot more that it needs.
You can install an outdoor socket and just granny charge forever!

There’s a Rolec one for sale on Facebook now. 250stg brand new. Get a registered sparks to fit.

Get your grant and it won’t have cost you anything.

I actually profited from getting my ABL unit installed.

phat1 · 10-06-2019 10:12AM

Ok i am going to get the Elvi box by EVbox €595 + vat and a local spark wants €295 to fit the box and certify it, I will run the cable myself from the fuse board up to the attic and down the external wall, with 3 core 6 square cable SWA, fingers crossed it all goes well!

KCross · 10-06-2019 10:20AM

phat1 wrote: »

Ok i am going to get the Elvi box by EVbox €595 + vat and a local spark wants €295 to fit the box and certify it, I will run the cable myself from the fuse board up to the attic and down the external wall, with 3 core 6 square cable SWA, fingers crossed it all goes well!

How long a run is it?
Might be better to go with 10sqmm.

phat1 · 10-06-2019 11:29AM

KCross wrote: »

How long a run is it?
Might be better to go with 10sqmm.

It is about 25M I’d say give or take, I can look into 10sqmm.

unkel · 10-06-2019 11:48AM

You will have to go 10mm2 for that long a run.

slave1 · 10-06-2019 12:14PM

phat1 wrote: »

It is about 25M I’d say give or take, I can look into 10sqmm.

That's going to be one heavy cable to lift and manage

GreeBo · 10-06-2019 12:31PM

slave1 wrote: »

That's going to be one heavy cable to lift and manage

and 10sq is a bitch to manage at the best of times.

OP are you running this through the house and are you going to duct it or try to hid it behind walls/under floors etc?

I ran about 12M 8 years ago and my knuckles are just getting back to normal

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