10 abreast 777

Emirates have all 10 abreast for their 777-300ER

Yet another reason to avoid flying with British Airways. For ULH I try always to go to the back in economy where it slims down from 10 across, pop a few benzos and wake up 12-14hrs later.

One of the longest flights in the world from Doha to Auckland is on a 10 abreast 777LR.

I flew on on a Cathay 777 last year that was 9 abreast. Was okay but as somebody mentioned with BA, their economy was also very dated.

Was on a 747 3-4-3 a few years back in economy got stuck between two large people and it was the worst 12 hours of my life I could not move at all.

On the way back I was in premium economy and my god this is why I now pay the extra to travel in premium. People think I waste money but my reply is 12 hours on a plane a extra 8 inches of leg room and a bigger seat you understand why.

Ba premium is ok on the 777 300er seats where grand but I think the crew where the problem on that flight had to look for them at all times.

Was on japon Airlines premium economy my god its a business class like seat and something like 42 inches of leg room as I can't have fish they gave me food from the 1st class menu as all eatting options had fish sauce in them in premium economy.

But hands down the best premium is virgin atlantic the 787-9 is so nice to fly on with the huge seat and great cabin crew as well. Food was also fantastic. After 12 hours I was so relaxed and able to go for the day ha.

I'm f**ked if I'm going to lose weight to fly with any of them.

theguzman wrote: »

Yet another reason to avoid flying with British Airways. For ULH I try always to go to the back in economy where it slims down from 10 across, pop a few benzos and wake up 12-14hrs later.

Etihad have 10 a breast. They don’t offer a premium economy section but have economy space so half the front economy have more keg space. Avoid the back!

kevinandrew wrote: »

It’s relatively common these days.

British Airways aren’t the first and won’t be the last to fit 10 abreast in their 777 fleet. It doesn’t feel that different to 9 abreast in a Dreamliner to be honest.

Having stepped off of a 787-8 with 9 abreast seating yesterday, I can attest the name "Nightmareliner" would be the best description for it. If Boeing were any serious in their "Comfort for the passengers" stance, they would've told any airline asking for 3-3-3 seating to stick it where the sun doesn't shine and only offer 2-4-2 at maximum. It was American Airlines and, to be fair, the cabin crew were great but the seats are even less comfortable than Ryanair, and you're stuck in these for 7+ hours. By comparison, the United 757 I flew on from Dulles last year was positively comfortable.

I made the mistake of getting a window seat on the leg towards Chicago, and it's horrible - whatever with the bigger windows (although the polarization thingie is neat), the plastic panel covering the fuselage seems to be thicker than in other planes, leaving even less room for your shoulders and arms.

On the leg back, I decided to cough up for a seat with more legroom, this time an aisle seat in the central row - it was a bit better, but you still overlap with whomever is sitting next to you; If you get somebody with no concept of personal space, you're in for an infuriating journey - and the guy next to me almost used me as a backrest for a sizable portion of the flight (one of these despicable people who has to lay "sideways" in his seat to sleep, and so that his wife on the other seat could basically lay on him). My only "revenge" was when I got up to go to the loo in the middle of the night and they fell hard on the armrest

I'll be actively avoiding the 787 in the 9 abreast configuration (which basically means, avoiding the 787 entirely) in the future and trying to find flights on 777 with 9 abreast or A330's with 8 configurations.

Premium Economy might be a solution, but often the price is more than double that of cattle class Economy.

roundymac wrote: »

I'm f**ked if I'm going to lose weight to fly with any of them.

"Lose weight" is probably the most idiotic remark people make when one complains about narrow seats on planes. I'm no skinny minnie myself but my issue is definitely not the arse, it's the shoulders - I easily "spill out" each side of a 18-inches seat by a minimum of two inches each side at shoulder level and my elbows fall entirely outside of the armrests on both sides, unless I pull my arms tightly towards my body. Depending on fit and country, 18 inches shoulder width (45cm) is between an XS and an S size in terms of men's shirts and jackets...

When Boeing first presented the 787 to us, they classified 8 abreast as normal and 9 as high density, move on years later to the 1st deliveries and it appears that all airlines went for the "high density". And it really does suck.

Depending on the airline Premium is now business class.

Eg virgin to me that was business class.

All my drinks where in proper glasses, got my coffee in mugs and could request what ever I wonted such as a hot chocolate.

After my meal they offer you brandy or anything like that and not cheap stuff proper 50 euro a bottle stuff.

They have the wonder wall that's amazing it's just full of what ever junk food you won't and its all nice stuff.

A fridge to get your drinks from and loo that only pre can use.

Proper food on plates and some of the best meals I have ever had on a plane.

Every 30 mins they come around asking you do you won't anything never haveing to look for cabin crew for anything.

Like my girlfirend did not like the breckfest she got and they they asked her what would you like to swap around and we give you what you like.

I paid about 1k return to Hong Kong for this flight but jeses it was worth the money as better everything and a 2nd bag to check in.

Normal was 650 so 350 extra it's worth it for a 12 hour flight. That's not even 2 nights now in a 4 star hotel.

When I had to get back on the aer Lingus a320 back to Ireland I got a shock haha

Nijmegen wrote: »

People vote with their wallets and what most people do is search for a route on Skyscanner etc and select the best mix of cheapest/quickest. That's why some airlines advertise a route taking 5 minutes less than their competitors and the sticker price unbundled of everything but the clothes you're wearing is the driving factor. Premium economy is the new business class of 20 years ago and new business class products are increasingly indistinguishable from first class; and a lot of airlines actually phasing out their firsts.

I wouldn’t say most people.

I travel to the Middle East regularly and Turkish airlines is always the cheapest via Istanbul.

But it’s two 4.5 hour flights at bad times on a short haul plane.

Everybody I talk to avoid it and pays the premium for Etihad or emirates.

trellheim wrote: »

How's that relevant to a 10-across 777 ? Anyone in a 10 across is in economy and not there by choice , we'd all like to be up the front.

I think it's relevant to the why and the trend in the airline industry to pack in more to economy, because with high loads people clearly are willing to take it; and then getting the additional cash out of premium economy as well as business - in other words, it's actually the middle of the plane you want to be in now.

Everybody I talk to avoid it and pays the premium for Etihad or emirates.

I think we're on the same page - The right mix of price and time as I say. Most flight search engines will give you a result ordered fastest, cheapest or "best", which is where most people go.

youreadthat wrote: »

I'm 6ft, not exactly skinny, and have done 9 abreast in a 787 for over 14 hours no problem in economy 5 times. I have also done the same journey in premium economy after getting bumped up. Obviously premium is better, but it's not twice the price better. The lower cabin pressure is also very noticeable. At the end of the day there's no economy class seat on any aircraft with the room for my legs to stretch enough to not be in discomfort after 7+ hours so you just gotta make do or get richer.

Leg room isn’t a problem for me most of the time; it’s the seat width, and I am skinny. I feel for the more corpulent among us.