The 70's and 80's in Ireland

conorhal · 31-05-2019 11:18AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

By that stage condoms were available in SOME pharmacies but the pill was prescription only.

I think you'll find that the pill still requires a prescription, as any drug with a substantial biological impact should be.

It was silly that you could only buy condoms in a pharmacy however. I remember the pearl clutching when Virgin Megastore started selling condoms but within months it was commonplace.
It was the moral equivelent of having to keep cigarettes and booze behind a curtian today least children see these things and become morally corrupted by them.

ohnonotgmail · 31-05-2019 11:21AM

conorhal wrote: »

All these things, from condoms to the pill were available in your pharmacy.
The weird hysteria and bizarre ignorance of people that think the 80's were like some kind of medieval inquisition is pretty funny.

conorhal wrote: »

I think you'll find that the pill still requires a prescription, as any drug with a substantial biological impact should be.

It was silly that you could only buy condoms in a pharmacy however. I remember the pearl clutching when Virgin Megastore started selling condoms but within months it was commonplace.
It was the moral equivelent of having to keep cigarettes and booze behind a curtian today least children see these things.

I know the pill still requires a prescription from a doctor.

EmmetSpiceland · 31-05-2019 11:54AM

cgcsb wrote: »

A guy I know told me that pre internet the gap between Dublin and the rest was way bigger than it is now in terms of trends, fashion, food and even things like music and even commonly owned household appliances.

Outside of Cork, Galway and Dublin the fashion for young men was almost universal. Was like a “rural” uniform of combat trousers, black “heavy metal” T-shirt, big black boots and a ponytail. As they aged they added long chinny beards.

It’s still seen in most parts of Longford and Mayo.

You’d see these lads hanging out around the “main street” smoking fags and spitting most evenings during the summer months.

Deebles McBeebles · 31-05-2019 12:02PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Outside of Cork, Galway and Dublin the fashion for young men was almost universal. Was like a “rural” uniform of combat trousers, black “heavy metal” T-shirt, big black boots and a ponytail. As they aged they added long chinny beards.

It’s still seen in most parts of Longford and Mayo.

You’d see these lads hanging out around the “main street” smoking fags and spitting most evenings during the summer months.

Very much in cities too Emmet, Central Bank in Dublin was the epicentre of it back in the day.

EmmetSpiceland · 31-05-2019 12:06PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Very much in cities too Emmet, Central Bank in Dublin was the epicentre of it back in the day.

Probably up for the day on the “red setter” buses.

farmchoice · 31-05-2019 12:15PM

what is it with a cohort of people on boards who at every opportunity try and paint people from the country as lesser than them.

i have lived all my life in Ireland in the county and in Dublin i dont think in those 40 plus year i have ever in real life met someone who goes on like this or who would speak like this to a real person.
is it just your internet warrior kind of thing or is there a new section of of extremely ignorant people emerging in society.

cgcsb · 31-05-2019 12:26PM

farmchoice wrote: »

what is it with a cohort of people on boards who at every opportunity try and paint people from the country as lesser than them.

i have lived all my life in Ireland in the county and in Dublin i dont think in those 40 plus year i have ever in real life met someone who goes on like this or who would speak like this to a real person.
is it just your internet warrior kind of thing or is there a new section of of extremely ignorant people emerging in society.

don't be such a snowflake, it's after hours. :pac:

Sardonicat · 31-05-2019 12:28PM

cgcsb wrote: »

JupiterKid wrote: »

It was only about 1991 or 1992 when johnnies could be sold in pub toilet vending machines. Virgin Megastore in Dublin got into trouble for selling them around 1989 or so.

As a millennial, I just can't get my head around this. Who enforced this? who cooperated with this regime? Are they alive today? why aren't they on trial? HAve they been executed already? AIDS was rampant in the western world, they were putting people's lives in danger.

What do you mean, why aren't they on trial? After 85 you could get condoms in a pharmacy or Family Planning Clinic if you were lucky enough to live near one. If you lived in anything larger than a village you would be able to get your hands on them easy enough. But it was certainly hard for young people, especially girls, to go into a chemist and ask for condoms. Only being able to get them in a chemist, behind the counter,was pretty universal in most countries til the mid to late 80s anyway. But the situation up to 85 here was an absolute disgrace.

Hotblack Desiato · 31-05-2019 12:41PM

cgcsb wrote: »

A guy I know told me that pre internet the gap between Dublin and the rest was way bigger than it is now in terms of trends, fashion, food and even things like music and even commonly owned household appliances.

I think access to satellite TV was the game changer there, not the internet.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

By that stage condoms were available in SOME pharmacies but the pill was prescription only.

My then girlfriend went into a pharmacy with her pill prescription - not her usual pharmacy but this one was nearer

They told her "We don't do that sort of thing"

This was 1993

In Dublin.

In f**king Rathmines, of all places in Dublin.

F**king ridiculous.

There was also a large chemists near SCR which didn't stock condoms, was owned by a major FF family.

This was back when there was still no treatment for AIDS

Talk about f**king irresponsible.

Hotblack Desiato · 31-05-2019 12:45PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

I grew up in Finglas south and Neilstown during the 80s. It wasn't a picnic, but my memories are happy. But then my father a had a full time job as a truck driver and my mother was a cleaner in the local school.

There you have it, both your parents had pretty secure jobs, whatever about being well-paid there was always a steady income coming into the house

For a lot of people it wasn't like that, at all.

Your earlier statement "I firmly believe that most people from Dublin have better memories" is true for some, definitely wrong for many, true for most? very debatable.

Dublin in the 70s/80s had some of the worst deprivation in Western Europe. Other parts of Dublin were quite well off, of course.

Widdershins · 31-05-2019 12:52PM

It was the 00's when the new adult shop was protested in Ennis . Afaik they never opened one there since .

branie2 · 31-05-2019 01:00PM

Widdershins wrote: »

It was the 00's when the new adult shop was protested in Ennis . Afaik they never opened one there since .

I think it was earlier than that

Deebles McBeebles · 31-05-2019 01:02PM

farmchoice wrote: »

what is it with a cohort of people on boards who at every opportunity try and paint people from the country as lesser than them.

i have lived all my life in Ireland in the county and in Dublin i dont think in those 40 plus year i have ever in real life met someone who goes on like this or who would speak like this to a real person.
is it just your internet warrior kind of thing or is there a new section of of extremely ignorant people emerging in society.

Ah I wouldn't take it too seriously. In real life I've often had the same conversations but only as a joke with whatever bloody Jackeen happens to be yapping at me at the time.

Grayson · 31-05-2019 01:17PM

branie2 wrote: »

I think it was earlier than that

Remember the protests outside Stringfellows? And I mean the strip club on parnell st, not the night club in Mullingar

BalcombeSt4 · 31-05-2019 01:23PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What was it like in the 1980's in Ireland?

I have seen pictures, video and my god it looked like a depressing place. :eek:

Grey, delapidated, hopeless.

What was it like? How did you get by without internets, wheelie bins, toilets...?

Would you go back if you could??

*Might as well throw in the 70's too for people of that vintage.

Well I live in Bray and I remember it being a much brigther place, the 70s had the Chairlift thing up Bray head, they had the outdoor pools & bath things around the cove, there was atleast 5 Arcades on the seafront in the late 80's, all of them are now gone, 3 of them turned into Casinos for our casino economy, and all of the arcades had their own unique machines & games, like the Fun Palace was more for children & then Dawsons was bit more for older teens / young adults. Loads of shops & stuff have closed, it used to have a bright vibrant night life, that's gone, I remember every pub used to have at least 1 snooker & 1 pool table each, several had a couple eah, now none have any, atleast none on the seafront, Brayhead Hotel now looks like something out of a horror film. This threads depressing me. We had a poorer economy in the 70's & 80's, but had more stuff, when the Celtic tiger came it must have got hungry & ate the shops & clubs, pubs etc,... We have a lot more banks, now, banks to payback all the debt we owed for having a good time in the 70's, 80's & 90's, sorry 21st century. I suppose this is what happens when you have a failing capitalist system that keeps crashing every few years, the conservatives blame the greedy workers asking for a pay rise, so they have some money to feed themselves & their children, selfish workers.

cgcsb · 31-05-2019 01:37PM

Grayson wrote: »

Remember the protests outside Stringfellows? And I mean the strip club on parnell st, not the night club in Mullingar

I have a vague recolection of that and at the time found it strange because at the time there were other well known strip joints, perhaps not as well known as the stringfellows chain, but I still don't get why all the crosses and statues came out to protest this one and not the, already well established, risque strands of Dublin Nightlife.

branie2 · 31-05-2019 01:38PM

Other than Lourdes in 1985 and the Isle of Man in 1989, most of our family holidays was spent in Ireland.

cgcsb · 31-05-2019 01:50PM

conorhal wrote: »

The weird hysteria and bizarre ignorance of people that think the 80's were like some kind of medieval inquisition is pretty funny.

There were operational Magdalene Laundries and male homosexuality was a criminal offence. It was basically the middle ages but with perms.

Ash.J.Williams · 31-05-2019 02:02PM

farmchoice wrote: »

what is it with a cohort of people on boards who at every opportunity try and paint people from the country as lesser than them.

i have lived all my life in Ireland in the county and in Dublin i dont think in those 40 plus year i have ever in real life met someone who goes on like this or who would speak like this to a real person.
is it just your internet warrior kind of thing or is there a new section of of extremely ignorant people emerging in society.

Don't get your wranglers in a twist

Widdershins · 31-05-2019 02:19PM

branie2 wrote: »

I think it was earlier than that

The one I know of had to have been after 2001. 2003 maybe . I was away from Ireland before that . I remember discussing it with a few different people here when it was happening .

bullpost · 31-05-2019 02:30PM

cgcsb wrote: »

There were operational Magdalene Laundries and male homosexuality was a criminal offence. It was basically the middle ages but with perms.

I for one am glad we are living in more enlightened times. The majority on the Island repeatedly voting for political parties who are ignoring climate change, ignoring a homeless crisis which just keeps getting worse and a general narcissistic obsession with social media..............

Wonder how the boardies of twenty years from now will call it?

cgcsb · 31-05-2019 02:33PM

bullpost wrote: »

I for one am glad we are living in more enlightened times. The majority on the Island repeatedly voting for political parties who are ignoring climate change, ignoring a homeless crisis which just keeps getting worse and a general narcissistic obsession with social media..............

Wonder how the boardies of twenty years from now will call it?

I'm not saying current times aren't sh!te, I'm saying back then was worse.

SharpshooterTom · 31-05-2019 02:38PM

Guys I asked this question a few pages back so I'll just ask again, would you rather be a kid in todays world or keep your childhood of the 80s/90s?

bullpost · 31-05-2019 02:40PM

cgcsb wrote: »

I'm not saying current times aren't sh!te, I'm saying back then was worse.

But you cant make that comparison. Only those in the future can.

SharpshooterTom · 31-05-2019 02:44PM

cgcsb wrote: »

I'm not saying current times aren't sh!te, I'm saying back then was worse.

Depends on the person, for minorities and LGBT it certainly was, but Ireland and many parts of Western Europe didn't have as many minorities. Even the UK was less than 5% non white in the 1980s, compared to 15-20% today.

Also we can pick holes in the in the 1980s, but compared to then income inequality has gotten WORSE today thanks to the legacies of Reagan and Thatcher and lots of other western countries trying to copy them since.

Seanachai · 31-05-2019 02:47PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Guys I asked this question a few pages back so I'll just ask again, would you rather be a kid in todays world or keep your childhood of the 80s/90s?

Keep the 80s\90s childhood without a doubt, there's too much head noise these days.

Deebles McBeebles · 31-05-2019 02:51PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Guys I asked this question a few pages back so I'll just ask again, would you rather be a kid in todays world or keep your childhood of the 80s/90s?

80s/90s without a doubt. Would not enjoy growing up in todays world.

conorhal · 31-05-2019 03:07PM

cgcsb wrote: »

I'm not saying current times aren't sh!te, I'm saying back then was worse.

I look around today at the levels of unhappiness, anxiety and isolation in the country. The numbers of people on anti-depressants (which seems like half the population), the number of children in need of treatment for accute psychological problems. The degree to which as a society, we are self medicating ourselves into an early grave with alcohol and drugs. The degree to which people ar killing themselves and each other in ever greater numbers, even children raping killing other children, and I don't for a second believe that things today are 'better' by any metric bar economic. Even there the hours people are working keep getting longer as their job security diminishes along with the quality time they get to spend with family.

ArnoldJRimmer · 31-05-2019 03:41PM

conorhal wrote: »

I look around today at the levels of unhappiness, anxiety and isolation in the country. The numbers of people on anti-depressants (which seems like half the population), the number of children in need of treatment for accute psychological problems. The degree to which as a society, we are self medicating ourselves into an early grave with alcohol and drugs. The degree to which people ar killing themselves and each other in ever greater numbers, even children raping killing other children, and I don't for a second believe that things today are 'better' by any metric bar economic. Even there the hours people are working keep getting longer as their job security diminishes along with the quality time they get to spend with family.

While I agree that things may not necessarily be better now, its worth remembering that depression and unhappiness all existed back then too, but no one talked about it. This is not a new thing, and the cause of these problems didn't just stem from the affluence we experienced as a result of the Celtic Tiger, its also because everything is more out in the open

Alcoholism in particular was as prevalent as people's budgets allowed. Murder rates are of course up, but domestic violence was probably more acceptable. Institutional abuse was only starting to die out in the 1980's, I remember the 'poor' kids in my class getting the sh!t kicked out of them by nuns.

I think both era's have their good and bad points. I can't even imagine how I would have coped with social media as a child, and with all the technological advances we've made, I don't think my childhood suffered from not having the latest and greatest gadgets, if anything its made me more resourceful as an adult

cgcsb · 31-05-2019 03:47PM

conorhal wrote: »

I look around today at the levels of unhappiness, anxiety and isolation in the country. The numbers of people on anti-depressants (which seems like half the population), the number of children in need of treatment for accute psychological problems. The degree to which as a society, we are self medicating ourselves into an early grave with alcohol and drugs. The degree to which people ar killing themselves and each other in ever greater numbers, even children raping killing other children, and I don't for a second believe that things today are 'better' by any metric bar economic. Even there the hours people are working keep getting longer as their job security diminishes along with the quality time they get to spend with family.

All the things you have mentioned also existed then in just as large/larger proportions but it wasn't spoken of. IF someone killed themselves back then, quite common, it was recorded as 'an accident' and not spoken of again. Alcoholism was more common and extreme then than now.

The 70's and 80's in Ireland

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