heart rate monitor training

TFBubendorfer · 29-09-2017 01:42PM

Sorry, my brain must have been still asleep when I typed the last post. HR zones are by Joe Friel, not Daniels. Also, they should not work off max HR but your lactate threshold heart rate. If you follow that kind of training, it is well worth reading more about it, for the man himself, e.g. https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/joe-friel-s-quick-guide-to-setting-zones/

My guess is that Garmin just bastardised Friel's ideas.

dickidy · 29-09-2017 02:42PM

so maybe the top figures are correct and the ones i entered manually are wrong.
maybe they are two diff figures .

my max it 199

Down South · 29-09-2017 03:35PM

do you use the hrm on all sessions or just periodically once youve established hr based paces? My garmin has a wrist based monitor but I have concerns over its accuracy. Was contemplating using a chest strap periodically

MollsGap · 29-09-2017 08:55PM

great thread, thank you all for the advice on here

zulutango · 30-09-2017 12:48AM

Down South wrote:

do you use the hrm on all sessions or just periodically once youve established hr based paces? My garmin has a wrist based monitor but I have concerns over its accuracy. Was contemplating using a chest strap periodically

I was in the same boat and wasn't happy with the fluctuations in the heart rate data so I got a chest strap and it's far more reliable and trustworthy. Would recommend.

TFBubendorfer · 30-09-2017 05:11AM

dickidy wrote: »

so maybe the top figures are correct and the ones i entered manually are wrong.
maybe they are two diff figures .

my max it 199

The top figures are very low. My own max HR is about 190 and I couldn't train on those. I'd be surprised if they were correct to be honest.

dickidy · 30-09-2017 05:18PM

i use the chest strap every run.

dickidy · 30-09-2017 05:20PM

yeh i was ending up in zone 5 for most fast runs and trying to get back to zone 2 was impossible when doing intervals . think i will change the watch to use percentage of max heart rate then based on bpm , see what happens .
thanks again folks , its much appreciated

MollsGap · 30-09-2017 08:33PM

I have just recently started running and using a chest strap HRM and saw I was up at 180 bpm for a 5K.
Is this a reflection of my lack of fitness or was I pushing too hard?

zulutango · 02-10-2017 09:50AM

MollsGap wrote: »

I have just recently started running and using a chest strap HRM and saw I was up at 180 bpm for a 5K.
Is this a reflection of my lack of fitness or was I pushing too hard?

Was it 180bpm for the full race or just towards the end? What age are you?

MollsGap · 02-10-2017 07:31PM

zulutango wrote: »

Was it 180bpm for the full race or just towards the end? What age are you?

175 during and 183 at end or so. I would only have had one run per week in the lead up to the race. Am 40s

El Caballo · 02-10-2017 07:56PM

MollsGap wrote: »

I have just recently started running and using a chest strap HRM and saw I was up at 180 bpm for a 5K.
Is this a reflection of my lack of fitness or was I pushing too hard?

It is just a number that doesn't reflect anything in isolation on either of those. If you had ran 100 miles every week for the last year in the lead up to the race, it would've still being just as high as all it shows is how hard your heart is working. Towards the end of a 5k race, your heart rate will always be approaching HR Max given an honest effort. For instance, I would probably be a lot fitter than you(no offence) as I train a lot more but I still reach the high 190's at the end of a 5k which would be close to my Max HR. Max HR differs hugely from person to person, A friend of mine has a lab tested Max of 168 and is in his 20's and is way faster than me but I know guys who are also 200+ as well and faster as well. That's just the way it is without getting into stuff that's way more complicated.

HR can be useful in training to help stay with zones like easy and moderate etc and seeing gains in fitness by seeing your pace get faster for a given HR over weeks and months but seeing a number like 180 or 190 alone during a 5k race don't really suggest anything. Your race times will inform you of how fit you are and how you are progressing in that sense.

MollsGap · 03-10-2017 08:13PM

El Caballo wrote: »

HR can be useful in training to help stay with zones like easy and moderate etc and seeing gains in fitness by seeing your pace get faster for a given HR over weeks and months but seeing a number like 180 or 190 alone during a 5k race don't really suggest anything. Your race times will inform you of how fit you are and how you are progressing in that sense.

Thank you for this information. I was worried when I read the 220 less your age was the maximum heart rate and feared I might be overdoing it!

For easy running or easy cycling what might be a good HRM range for an easy Sunday run?

El Caballo · 03-10-2017 09:46PM

MollsGap wrote: »

Thank you for this information. I was worried when I read the 220 less your age was the maximum heart rate and feared I might be overdoing it!

For easy running or easy cycling what might be a good HRM range for an easy Sunday run?

No bother! To get the best estimate, you are best off using what they call Heart Rate Reserve.

Take your HR first thing in the morning to calculate your Resting HR. say for example, it is 60bpm. You then subtract that from your Max HR of roughly 185 which will give you 125. 125 is your Heart rate reserve.

An Easy run would then be 65-75%. To get that, just multiply your HR reserve by .65 and .75. That will give you 81.25 and 93.75 in this example. Add your Resting HR of 60 back onto those and you get an easy run range of 141-153bpm.

I think 185 might be a good guide for you max HR right now so all you need to do is find your Resting HR and a little bit of math to get your easy run range.

This pace will feel incredibly slow to you at first but if you stick to it for a while, the results will be show as that's great place for you start building up your engine and fitness when just starting out. best of luck with it:)

dickidy · 05-10-2017 12:36PM

ok so I am now using the % of max on the garmin to set my zones and my workouts are much harder and actually feel like a workout,

SixtaWalthers · 28-05-2019 05:37PM

Recently purchased a heartbeat monitor because sometimes, I feel the irregular beat, especially when having chicken stuff with spice. The doctor referred to use a heartbeat monitor. Can you suggest a good one? Do you think Fitbit or Garmin will work for me? Secondly, I also found this technique to control heart palpitations over the internet to normalize the heart rate. I used it but as I didn’t have the monitor, that’s why I don’t know exactly that it helped or not. However, I got little relief.

roosterman71 · 28-05-2019 07:25PM

SixtaWalthers wrote: »

Recently purchased a heartbeat monitor because sometimes, I feel the irregular beat, especially when having chicken stuff with spice. The doctor referred to use a heartbeat monitor. Can you suggest a good one? Do you think Fitbit or Garmin will work for me? Secondly, I also found this technique to control heart palpitations over the internet to normalize the heart rate. I used it but as I didn’t have the monitor, that’s why I don’t know exactly that it helped or not. However, I got little relief.

I think yer in the wrong thread. I don't think Garmin/Fitbit are detailed enough to determine irregular heartbeats. And one these forums, no medical advice is to be given so best talking with your GP over what exactly they are recommending

SixtaWalthers · 28-05-2019 08:13PM

Maybe I should look at device for Arrhythmia. Going to get appointment from doctor. Let's see what he says.

TFBubendorfer · 28-05-2019 10:25PM

SixtaWalthers wrote: »

Recently purchased a heartbeat monitor because sometimes, I feel the irregular beat, especially when having chicken stuff with spice. The doctor referred to use a heartbeat monitor. Can you suggest a good one? Do you think Fitbit or Garmin will work for me? Secondly, I also found this technique to control heart palpitations over the internet to normalize the heart rate. I used it but as I didn’t have the monitor, that’s why I don’t know exactly that it helped or not. However, I got little relief.

That page looks like a scam.

I do have irregular heartbeat at times (tachycardia), though the last episode has been quite a while ago. Do you want to wear your heart rate monitor just when you're exercising or 24 hrs a day? You'll need a very different device, depending.

I'd definitely ask your doctor for advice - your heart isn't something you want to treat according to advice from some random guy on the internet!

SixtaWalthers · 29-05-2019 09:40AM

No, I need a heartrate monitor when I feel heart palpitation to verify either it is a real big problem or just feeling because of gastric issue etc. But, yes, my mom is also forcing to visit the doctor at once. I need actual medical help. I am not going to ignore it. Maybe next week.

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