The Virtues (new drama from Shane Meadows)

bobbyss · 22-05-2019 05:13PM

jos28 wrote:

I try not to drink midweek but might need a drink tonight if last week's episode is anything to go by

Yet I would down my expectations. Was looking forward to the last episode of the incomparable Line of Duty but it was a let down.
So I'm going to tune in and see what happens.

anewme · 22-05-2019 05:13PM

jos28 wrote: »

I try not to drink midweek but might need a drink tonight if last week's episode is anything to go by

I'm thinking the exact same!

Was due to go to the gym but cancelled and cant wait to go home to watch this.

joe40 · 22-05-2019 05:18PM

I must give this a try. I'm not very familiar with shane meadows but Dead man shoes is one of my favourite films. Just rewatched it last night. Still class

Taiga · 22-05-2019 05:24PM

Sorry to derail the thread slightly but briefly but is any of SM's other stuff on Netflix by any chance?

Gimme A Pound · 22-05-2019 09:29PM

Keep it together Gimme...

22-05-2019 09:35PM

First of all, loving The Virtues, Stephen Graham is amazing.

But I logged in just to say, thanks for recommending Dead Mans Shoes.
Ive just finished watching it.

Its been a long time since I enjoyed a movie that much. Bloody hell, it was intense. :eek: I was glued to it.

Surprised I haven't heard of it before now.

Now I plan on watching the rest of Meadows stuff, apart from This is England, which Ive seen and loved

phatkev · 22-05-2019 10:56PM

Meadows really does know how to pull on the audiences heartstrings! Amazing performances all round

yabadabado · 22-05-2019 11:11PM

Jaxx Lemon Bib wrote: »

No ferry from Liverpool to Belfast between morning and night, and no mention of a ferry to Dublin - pretty dubious in an otherwise top notch production.

There is a ferry between Liverpool and Belfast at 10.30pm .

Basq · 22-05-2019 11:19PM

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

No ferry from Liverpool to Belfast between morning and night, and no mention of a ferry to Dublin - pretty dubious in an otherwise top notch production.

yabadabado wrote: »

There is a ferry between Liverpool and Belfast at 10.30pm .

bobbyss · 22-05-2019 11:35PM

Anybody just a little disappointed with episode two,
The walk at the start was way too long. Are we meant to believe he walked from Belfast to Louth? The scene between the two siblings in the bedroom was however exceptional.
That strange fellow at work was a little bit too much. Touch of a caricature I felt.

yabadabado · 23-05-2019 12:50AM

bobbyss wrote: »

Anybody just a little disappointed with episode two,
The walk at the start was way too long. Are we meant to believe he walked from Belfast to Louth? The scene between the two siblings in the bedroom was however exceptional.
That strange fellow at work was a little bit too much. Touch of a caricature I felt.

Yeah I think it sorted looked like he walked/hitched from the Ferry to Louth. It's only about 50 miles so manageable but could have shown him maybe getting a lift or even sleeping rough one night.
Would explain why he was panned out on the side of the street in the morning.

It wouldn't effect my enjoy of it,I liked that part of it.

Gimme A Pound · 23-05-2019 01:39AM

yabadabado wrote: »

There is a ferry between Liverpool and Belfast at 10.30pm .

I said it seemed unlikely that there is no ferry to Belfast at any other time of day between morning and night. What i gathered was that Joe went to the depot in the morning but had just missed the morning ferry and had to wait until night time for the next one. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a ferry to Belfast in the afternoon or early evening. So I had a check

- yep, 13 crossings daily from Birkenhead to Belfast! Maybe they were all booked up until night time though...

But anyway, just a small thing I noticed.

Thought it was excellent again. The scene between him and his sister, catching up - didn't manage to keep it together, although I wasn't sobbing like last week. Takes some acting to make me cry. They conveyed the sorrow, pain and guilt from the gut. A heck of an experience for the actors too. They must have been wrecked by it. Helen Behan was extraordinary - a match for Stephen Graham, and she doesn't have much experience or training I gather. They were all brilliant.

cozar · 23-05-2019 09:35AM

Taiga wrote: »

Sorry to derail the thread slightly but briefly but is any of SM's other stuff on Netflix by any chance?

there are some of his films on All 4 i think including this is England and the series.

fitzparker · 23-05-2019 10:58AM

Before last nights episode I was worried that the Irish actors would ruin the casting (Typical Irish begrudger I guess) and that is what I looked out for most, but again the casting was excellent from meadows, he seems to have a nack for kids with natural acting ability, those kids were super, loved the questions at the table.

is it just me or is all of meadows best scenes at a kitchen table?

last week in Virtues

This is england:
Combo and milky in the cafe

and probably my favorite ever scene from anything I watched was in this is england 90 (episode 3) when everyone was sitting around the dining table, a master class of raw acxting, I have never seen anything like it.

Meadows is a master class at casting, for anyone that has never seen it, here is a video of when he met Thomas turgoose for the role of Shaun in This is england, its really funny... he mentions going to dublin which is gas

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 12:27PM

fitzparker wrote: »

Before last nights episode I was worried that the Irish actors would ruin the casting (Typical Irish begrudger I guess) and that is what I looked out for most, but again the casting was excellent from meadows, he seems to have a nack for kids with natural acting ability, those kids were super, loved the questions at the table.

is it just me or is all of meadows best scenes at a kitchen table?

last week in Virtues

This is england:
Combo and milky in the cafe

and probably my favorite ever scene from anything I watched was in this is england 90 (episode 3) when everyone was sitting around the dining table, a master class of raw acxting, I have never seen anything like it.

Meadows is a master class at casting, for anyone that has never seen it, here is a video of when he met Thomas turgoose for the role of Shaun in This is england, its really funny... he mentions going to dublin which is gas

that's not Meadows

...he's the big cheese you meet him at the next stage!

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 12:29PM

Jaxx Lemon Bib wrote: »

I said it seemed unlikely that there is no ferry to Belfast at any other time of day between morning and night. What i gathered was that Joe went to the depot in the morning but had just missed the morning ferry and had to wait until night time for the next one. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a ferry to Belfast in the afternoon or early evening. So I had a check - yep, 13 crossings daily from Birkenhead to Belfast! Maybe they were all booked up until night time though...

But anyway, just a small thing I noticed.

Thought it was excellent again. The scene between him and his sister, catching up - didn't manage to keep it together, although I wasn't sobbing like last week. Takes some acting to make me cry. They conveyed the sorrow, pain and guilt from the gut. A heck of an experience for the actors too. They must have been wrecked by it. Helen Behan was extraordinary - a match for Stephen Graham, and she doesn't have much experience or training I gather. They were all brilliant.

ah ffs dude....the ferry is neither here nor there...

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 12:31PM

bobbyss wrote: »

Anybody just a little disappointed with episode two,
The walk at the start was way too long. Are we meant to believe he walked from Belfast to Louth? The scene between the two siblings in the bedroom was however exceptional.
That strange fellow at work was a little bit too much. Touch of a caricature I felt.

you're not meant to believe he walked from belfast to Louth

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 12:36PM

Jaxx Lemon Bib wrote: »

No ferry from Liverpool to Belfast between morning and night, and no mention of a ferry to Dublin - pretty dubious in an otherwise top notch production.

Just remembered the start too when he's being driven to work by the guy bitching and moaning about night feeds for his newborn - to a guy who's about to say goodbye to his child until who knows when...

it's not on his IMDB but i think the guy driving the van is the legendary Herbie from Dead mans shoes?

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 12:37PM

See mcsavage on the VHS footage??

RobMc59 · 23-05-2019 02:04PM

Slightly off topic but if you like Paddy Considine he was in a film a couple of years ago called Journeyman with Jodie Whittaker (Dr who,broadchurch)which is worth a look.

Slydice · 23-05-2019 02:43PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

See mcsavage on the VHS footage??

Yeah, he broke my immersion. I swear I was expecting him to pick up a kid a run

bobbyss · 23-05-2019 03:53PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote:

you're not meant to believe he walked from belfast to Louth

No not really. But the scene itself was too long. It began to drag. That's when I first thought it wasn't as good as episode 1.

jos28 · 23-05-2019 06:05PM

Thought the scenes between Graham and his sister were exceptional, the sense of loss and helplessness was palpable. It showed just how powerless kids are and how confusing the adult world is to them. Loved the scenes around the table with the kids, all so natural and not over dramatised.

Creepy builder character could prove interesting. He's played by Mark O'Halloran of Adam and Paul fame so could be good.

Taiga · 23-05-2019 07:32PM

Loved the table scene too, and the sister and her drama. Jaysus how do you pull off such natural acting like that, especially with kids? I loved this episode again, didn't even mind the long walking scene, loved the putting together him walking away (leaving) as a child and now walking back.

CoBo55 · 23-05-2019 08:20PM

What was the sister in? It's driving me nuts, was it A Date for mad Mary? She played the very same character in whatever it was.

Found her, she was in a Ch4 series "Pure", well worth a look, she's a great actress.

Taiga · 23-05-2019 08:37PM

Was she in anything else? Very familiar to me too but I haven't seen Pure.

Unearthly · 23-05-2019 09:38PM

She was in This is England tv series and had a few scenes with Stephen Graham

cozar · 23-05-2019 10:10PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

that's not Meadows ...he's the big cheese you meet him at the next stage!

Love it😊 he was so good in this is England.

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 10:12PM

cozar wrote: »

Love it😊 he was so good in this is England.

hard to believe he's a married man now!

Gimme A Pound · 23-05-2019 10:52PM

bobbyss wrote: »

But the scene itself was too long. It began to drag.

I loved it - thought it looked beautiful. And kinda haunting with th'auld celtic mist. Great song performed by Lisa Hannigan too.

The Virtues (new drama from Shane Meadows)

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