Honestly, what do you think about Season 8? Mod warning post #1/#410

Mousewar wrote:

Impossible to show this because in what world would Greyworm not have killed Jon on the spot or at least tried to kill him?

I do agree a fight scene between these two would have been very welcomed. But Grayworm is a smart man, not a brute and has a good grasp of his emotions considering. I'd imagine he would put the lives his men above his desire to revenge his queen. The norths army was still present don't forget and the dothraki may have chosen to follow John as he defeated their khaleesi (I don't know if killing a khaleesi is the same as killing a khal).


Alternatively, Jon could have left the scene before Greyworm even knew what happened. He had orders from Dany to enforce with his men so he must have been busy.

Everyone is going to have there own opinion on what should have happened here but I think we can all agree that jumping forward in time with no context to what happened to Jon doesn't do us or the show justice.

Wailin wrote: »

Jesus lads the amount of wannabe script writers in this thread lol. It's actually amazing seeing some of the bile spouted by some posters on here, a few at it constantly. Have ye no lives to live? It's only a tv show ffs!

Perhaps a different thread might suit you so? You seem to have misunderstood the concept of a discussion board.

threein99 wrote: »

What does that say about you if you're reading it all ?

No, I haven't read it all. A quick glance is all it takes. I haven't enjoyed this season anywhere near as much as previous, especially 1-4. After 4 the story dropped in quality, no surprise since they didn't have the books to guide them. But it's still good television and the uproar on here and elsewhere is a bit ott. People saying the writers should never work again, the actors are a disgrace etc, it gets a bit scary to think that it would affect people so much. A fantasy tv show having that affect where some actually want to wish harm on it's creators and actors is surely not normal?

Homer: "I'm confused, is this a good ending or a bad ending?"
Marge: "It's an ending, and that's enough!"

I wouldn't be a particularly vociferous critic of season 8, but there definitely was a rushed feeling about it, a bit like what I've often got from the few crime mystery novels I've read, where the sleuths seem no closer to solving it right up toward the end, and you can almost sense the writer thinking, "X,000 words...hmm...time to wrap this up". As a viewer, I like to be lead to the conclusion, not shoved headlong into it.

Tyrion and Varys, two of the best characters (for this viewer, anyway) were reduced to shadows of themselves except for the last episode, where is old form started to shine through, particularly in his discussions about Dany, which would make you wonder if he had an account on Boards.

The writing definitely wasn't as sharp or as tightly plotted, and much of the character-driven drama seemed absent. I think the drama was better when the battles happened off-screen.

I thought the ending was OK in that it certainly wasn't predictable and I thought the reasons for choosing Bran were sound...but (a) it was accepted too easily I thought (no doubt due to the ticking clock) and (b) he should have had some more character development. I did have a moment of "panic" when Sam suggested democracy as a solution which while a good thing, would have been too unbelievable, even in a show with wargs, white walkers, dragons and magical assassins. The reaction to Sam's suggestion was spot on though...the long silence that makes you think maybe they'll go for it, followed by guffaws of derision.

Regarding Dany, I still don't get how some see her transition to Mad Queen as thunder from a blue sky. From early on I noticed her sense of entitlement, her imperiousness, ruthlessness, obsession with everyone's submission to her divine right to rule, even after she discovered that right didn't actually exist. I had her down as a tyrant for some time (and I'm not even the most observant viewer...I must be the only person I know who didn't figure out what was going on in Angel Heart before halfway through :rolleyes:), although I wasn't expecting her to do a Dresden on King's Landing, and I agree that it would have been better if the final stage of her madness had built up a bit more gradually, but tick tock tick tock... The swastika-like use of the Targaryen banner and Nuremberg-like rally was visually effective, if a little unsubtle. I also think her death would have been better had there been a confrontation at Tyrion's execution, and the cut from that to the dragon arena place was a bit jarring, damn that clock...

All in all I'm not unhappy with the ending or even the series, even if it wasn't as good as some in the past. But I'll consider this book ending to be the real ending. Assuming it's ever written...

Greyfox wrote: »

The thing is season 6 was way better than S8, the last 2 episodes of S6 are amazing tv.. and this was D&D's work so the dip in quality is due to D&D deciding they no longer cared about GOT as they'd already moved on to star wars rather than book material running out, GOT fans are right to blame D&D, there the ones who didn't finish the story properly, they were too arrogant to admit to HBO that they needed help. If you where to do a creative writing course day 1 would be have a beginning a middle and an end and day 2 would be show don't tell.. D&D didn't get those 2 things right this season. If you pay someone to mind your child and you come back to see your child covered in paint and bruises you've got every right to be annoyed

To make your comparison a bit more accurate, you're a bystander that is angry at D&D for a child having bruises and paint on it after they pulled it from a collapsed building where GRRM left it.

Maybe there's a massive director's cut for series 7&8 to explain messy timelines. Explain with more and better dialogue between characters.
Wishful thinking.

Would you still recommend GOT to someone who has never watched it, now knowing how it ends up? I wouldn't. I'd be embarrassed to talk to them again once they started watching season 8

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Would you still recommend GOT to someone who has never watched it, now knowing how it ends up? I wouldn't. I'd be embarrassed to talk to them again once they started watching season 8

I'd feel the same as I do recommending Breaking Bad, given what a struggle that show is initially. The timing of the weak seasons are just switched.

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't see people in the future having as much issues when their expectations are set before going into it. I really have no idea how the expectations were so high for many who seem shocked by how rushed season 8 was. Some seem to have expected the slow progression from the earlier seasons despite it being clear how much they had to cover in 6 episodes and how much the pace had already quickened over the previous 2 seasons. From the posts you'd swear there was no red flags.

Danerys has nice tits

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Would you still recommend GOT to someone who has never watched it, now knowing how it ends up? I wouldn't. I'd be embarrassed to talk to them again once they started watching season 8

Yes I would, season 1-3 and 6 are excellent and season 4 of GOT is still better than any season of the wire or Sopranos. GOT at its worst is still better than watching the walking dead

The last two seasons were a huge drop in quality,by the time the final episode csme around i was just watching out of curiosity and didn't really care anymore