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Diageo giving 26 weeks paid paternity leave to fathers

  • 22-05-2019 04:06PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,255 ✭✭✭✭


    link here

    Great for employees of Diageo, but don't know how any normal small or medium business's could do anything similar. Bit mad paying a fellow wages for half a year all because he managed to get someone pregnant


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    2smiggy wrote: »
    Bit mad paying a fellow wages for half a year all because he managed to get someone pregnant

    ...or giving responsible fathers the opportunity to be a larger part of their childs first few months of life.

    My first child is due this year and I'll get 10 days and am glad of it. If my employer was willing to give me 26 weeks paid leave, I'd take it. As it stands, I've not taken a minute of leave this year so far so I can be there to support my wife in whatever way I can once the baby arrives.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭TheShow


    If its fully paid leave then thats great, as 240 pw from the govt normally falls well short of the actual salary, which not a feasibile option for everyone.

    I had 2 weeks fully paid by my previous employer, current employer only offers the govt paternity leave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭wally1990


    Rhyme wrote: »
    ...or giving responsible fathers the opportunity to be a larger part of their childs first few months of life.

    My first child is due this year and I'll get 10 days and am glad of it. If my employer was willing to give me 26 weeks paid leave, I'd take it. As it stands, I've not taken a minute of leave this year so far so I can be there to support my wife in whatever way I can once the baby arrives.

    Dead right

    I don't have children but it's a positive move by them to provide this type of leave.

    Its very good from an employer.

    God forbid, if a family have a newborn with medical issues, the current leave for fathers is quite inadequate and many resort to using annual leave.

    I support the 26 weeks for the father also.

    Yours sincerely
    A male :)

    PS best of luck to your family and I hope everything goes well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Kimbot wrote: »
    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P

    Irish twins. You'd be off work more than on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Kimbot wrote: »
    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P

    Generally those are the folks with 52 weeks maternity leave per year regardless of kids or not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Kimbot wrote: »
    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P

    I'd hope they've written limitations into it. There would always be one employee that would take the piss, a story would circulate, feature in the papers and then it would ruin it for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Rhyme wrote: »
    I'd hope they've written limitations into it. There would always be one employee that would take the piss, a story would circulate, feature in the papers and then it would ruin it for everyone.

    In Lithuania, for women, they get 1 year fully paid, and an optional 2nd year at 50% salary.

    A 'colleague' of my OH had 3 kids at 2 year intervals. Wasn't seen in the office for 6 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,255 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Rhyme wrote: »
    ...or giving responsible fathers the opportunity to be a larger part of their childs first few months of life.

    My first child is due this year and I'll get 10 days and am glad of it. If my employer was willing to give me 26 weeks paid leave, I'd take it. As it stands, I've not taken a minute of leave this year so far so I can be there to support my wife in whatever way I can once the baby arrives.

    great if you can get it, my point is I cannot see how any normal business can afford to pay 26 weeks leave every time some one has a child.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    I'm aware of facebook doing something similar. An ex-colleague had a little 'un due within 3 weeks of starting with them :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    2smiggy wrote: »
    great if you can get it, my point is I cannot see how any normal business can afford to pay 26 weeks leave every time some one has a child.

    Every business already does it for maternity leave at a rate specified in your contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    2smiggy wrote: »
    great if you can get it, my point is I cannot see how any normal business can afford to pay 26 weeks leave every time some one has a child.

    Short answer, unfortunately, they can't.

    Same way my employer can't afford to pay my health insurance, dental, gym membership* etc. But two of my friends get all of these benefits from their employer. They had to work their asses off to get to their positions, made huge sacrifices and are now top of their game. As far as I'm concerned, they earn those bonuses.


    *I don't go to the gym, running around after hyperactive patients all day keeps me fit :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    They would be better lowering the price of Guinness on battered pub owners and ripped off punters, they are a disgrace.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Kimbot wrote: »
    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P

    Actually,
    Research in Spain is showing that men that take paternity leave actually tend to have LESS children

    Maybe they realise its a lot of work?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/20/paid-paternity-leave-study-spain-men-fewer-children
    Men who receive paid paternity leave want fewer children, study finds

    In saying that I think extending perternity leave for a men is a good way of leveling the playing field for men/women in the job market, I'd get about two weeks if I had a kid tomorrow and I'd like to have more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Kimbot wrote: »
    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P

    That type of person generally doesn’t work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,086 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Every business already does it for maternity leave at a rate specified in your contract.

    For the majority of non state sector workers, the rate in the contract is simply state maternity benefit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Proper order. It's more of this we need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    All Diageo employees will be eligible for the programme regardless of how they become parents.


    Gets job in Diageo - heads for Coppers immediately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,453 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    So just as a matter of interest do they have to prove they are actually supporting the child and caring for it ?


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  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its a great idea with one or two cavities the majority of it should be take after their partner returns to work that way the child could be with a parent for most of the first year of their life and provided the man is not checking in with work so it becomes the norm to see both men and woman dropping out of work for 6 months to look after a baby no matter how senior the person is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Kimbot wrote: »
    Jesus.... imagine your the type of person that wants 7/8/9/10 kids....... you'd be setup :P

    Think women are saying this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,217 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    theteal wrote: »
    I'm aware of facebook doing something similar. An ex-colleague had a little 'un due within 3 weeks of starting with them :D

    I know a couple of lads who work there 4 months paid can be broken up a bit like 2 months when the baby is born and 2 later but has to be in the first year, they are quite pushy that you take it apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,896 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    2smiggy wrote: »
    great if you can get it, my point is I cannot see how any normal business can afford to pay 26 weeks leave every time some one has a child.

    It's impossible. And that's why women of a certain age are discriminated against in the selection process whether they like it or not.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hoboo wrote: »
    It's impossible. And that's why women of a certain age are discriminated against in the selection process whether they like it or not.

    However as paternity leave for both parents becomes the norm that will change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Hoboo wrote: »
    It's impossible. And that's why women of a certain age are discriminated against in the selection process whether they like it or not.

    There's nothing we can do about nature.

    That's the way it is, we can't impregnate men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Life is short, OP. Fathers getting to spend more time with their newborns? Brilliant, in my view.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hoboo wrote: »
    It's impossible. And that's why women of a certain age are discriminated against in the selection process whether they like it or not.

    That is more perception that reality. I have come across woman who got promoted while on maternity leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    26 weeks putting up with her **** of a mother and sisters calling around with their little brats everyday and expecting me to make tea and entertain them. No thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Edgware wrote: »
    26 weeks putting up with her **** of a mother and sisters calling around with their little brats everyday and expecting me to make tea and entertain them. No thanks.

    God help them

    A few days is enough for any man


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