Louis Theroux

Saifs shady.

One of the best of Louis's recent docs IMO!

The questioning of Saif with regards to Jon's comments was strange yet very compelling.. constantly speaking in the third person while appearing disconnected and almost unwilling to engage.

Mam of 4 wrote: »

What channel was it on ?

BBC2.. it has been advertised but considerably less than his previous three.

^^^^^^
Thank you both

on again tomorrow @ 9, bbc 2

Mothers on the Edge

Louis Theroux returns to the UK to spend time in specialist psychiatric units which treat mothers experiencing serious mental illness whilst allowing them to live alongside their babies. Immersing himself on the wards, he meets women who have been admitted with a range of serious conditions - including depression, anxiety and psychosis - often triggered by birth or the strains of motherhood. As he follows the patients and their families both in hospital and recovering back at home, Louis explores what lies behind their recent crisis and discovers the immense challenge in caring for two people in the most vulnerable state of their lives.

never watched the last one, is it any good?

cannotlogin wrote: »

Would anyone know where I can watch The Night In Question online?

The only place I can find it is on BBC iPlayer but can't view it as not in the UK

Smart dns will solve your problem

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Desperate stuff altogether, fair play to the women for doing the show.

Yeah can’t have been easy to be so open and let the cameras film such personal stuff. Hopefully it gives some solis to others that may be going through the same thing.

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

One thing that really surprised me, was the girl(Catherine) still on Instagram. A lot of her issues are linked to unrealistic expectations, which social media feed.

I was saying the same thing to the other half. Playing the social media game when you’re suffering from severe insecurities can’t be a good thing.

It was good to see that a lot of them have improved their situations. It does seem to be heavily linked to underlying issues though.

Revisiting the Westboro Baptist church tonight at 9. I'm going to miss it can anyone tell me is it repeated?

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Thursday 11.15pm BBC2

All the BBC2s except BBC2 Northern Ireland.

Found that fascinating, especially how much Mother Phelps has mellowed and been affected by her girls leaving.

Was willing Megan to knock on the door but appreciated Louis not pushing it for TV.

After watching that last night it looks to be on the verge of collapse or becoming totally ignored. The message has totally mellowed without the bile and anger of Pastor Phelps behind it.

Actually felt sorry for Shirley, she's a broken woman who wants her children back but looks too afraid to reach out. Go back to the very first time we met her, nothing phased her and she was hard as they come telling Louis she doesn't care for peoples feelings. She spent the show crying. I don't think she's a bad person but just brainwashed and kept in place through fear.

PressRun wrote: »

What is that English guy after? I don't buy for a second that he believes in it.

A subservient wife.

Berserker wrote: »

She's no fool but she was born into a horrible situation and has been unable to break those chains. My heart went out to her when Louis interviewed her and I hope that she reaches out to her daughters. Megan is a wonderful person and I think she has the strength required to draw Shirley away from the church, bit by bit. Shirley is 61, so she's got plenty of great years ahead of her with her daughters and grand children, if she goes.

Am I the only person who was really pee'd off with Steve Drain? Contradicted himself time and time again and he played the victim card when Louis caught him out. Louis was outstanding, as usual.



Where? I've pre-ordered Megan's book. Looking forward to reading it.

She's a fool in the sense that her beliefs are foolish. The venom she has been spitting her whole life hasn't make her happier. In fact, it's just heaped misery on her and her family. She gave up her children for what? And I think she realises herself her own foolishness. I think somewhere inside she knows it wasn't worth it, or is at least questioning whether it was worth it. She clearly wants to reach out to her children but doesn't know how/can't put her pride aside.

I feel sorry for the woman and totally accept that she is brainwashed and like I said, I dread to think what Fred Phelps put her and her siblings through, but it is certainly a misery of all their own making, and I think deep down she understands that, but doesn't know how to change it.

I'm not optimistic of her ever reconciling with her banished children. I don't think she would even know how to go about it at this stage of her life. Leaving the church would mean leaving her other children, and I don't think she will ever do that. She doesn't wield the power she once had in the church, so is not in a position to change their stance on the defectors. I think like her father maybe on her death bed she might reach out, but even then, I could see the "elders" stepping in and preventing anything meaningful from happening.


Steve Drain is an unsettling character. Louis interviewed his daughter who defected in the previous doc on the church and I remember her saying that he is a very well educated man who had loads of potential but the church gave him an outlet for his ego and a place where he can feel unquestionably right all the time, and it was all downhill from there. You can see it so plainly. The man is an utter narcissist.


I thought Louis' style in this episode was remarkably combative. Much more so than usual. Usually he kind of stands back and plays dumb while the subject digs their own grave, but he backed Drain into a corner on a couple of occasions in this ep. Was a lot more confrontational than in previous docs. I enjoyed it. Showed another side to his interviewing technique. He's well fit to debate when he wants to.

I wonder did the Jimmy Saville thing have an effect on how he approached the interviews in this one. He mentioned at the time that he kinda sensed there was something off about Saville and regretted not pushing him more. I wonder is that in the back of his mind now when he does interviews with controversial subjects.
The revelation too that some people were attracted to the church after having seen his docs might have been on his mind too. Maybe he felt the need to really highlight the contradictions and double standards in their teachings.

PressRun wrote: »

Steve Drain is an unsettling character. Louis interviewed his daughter who defected in the previous doc on the church and I remember her saying that he is a very well educated man who had loads of potential but the church gave him an outlet for his ego and a place where he can feel unquestionably right all the time, and it was all downhill from there. You can see it so plainly. The man is an utter narcissist.

Seems like Steve is the top guy in the church right now. I think what'll eventually happen is that Steve wants to be more WBC than the Phelps do and this will lead to a schism in the church, which is basically death to one so small.

I wouldn't be surprised if the man eventually goes full Waco.

New doc on tonight at 9 on BBC2

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Missed it tonight? Any good? Will try catch it on repeat

Thought it was a bit boring. Felt stale and has been done numerous times previously. Not one of his better ones

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Missed it tonight? Any good? Will try catch it on repeat

Wasn't one of his best ones. Quite predictable and it seemed like he was phoning it in.

Kinda knew where it was going, in that they all said that they were doing it to empower themsleves but once he scratched the surface it was all abuse and/or daady issues. Tragic really, but not revelatory. Husband and wife relationship was probably the most interesting and doesn't look like it will end well.

The bit with the disabled guy was a bit strange in that it just seemed tacked on.