John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Bateman · 05-05-2019 01:11PM

The FAI are inviting submissions from the public, for anyone interested
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FAI Press Release
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The Group has written to AGM Members of the FAI, the Professional Footballers’ Association of Ireland and FAI sponsors and has invited them to share their views on FAI governance reform via email to governance@fai.ie
Members of the public are also invited to make submissions. All submissions should clearly identify the person making the submission and their role in football.
The invitation from the Governance Review Group invites stakeholders to contribute to the debate on the future shape of the FAI in key areas.
Recipients have been asked what are the skills, knowledge, experience, attributes, expertise and backgrounds that they would like to see represented on the FAI Board in terms of structures to govern anmanage the business of the Association.
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Nesta99 · 07-05-2019 09:15PM

By trying to supress further info getting in to the public domain you'd have to question how genuine the FAI are about this process at all. What is 'privilaged' info submitted to the ODCE that's sealed, or wanted to be kept quiet with the paperwork that has taken things back to the High Court. It would hardly be employee contract details as surely that wouldnt be pertinent to issues of governance if the contracts are applied. That general info bar pension details are already generally known. Minutes of meetings maybe? It is certainly not giving even the impression of transparency that they are trying to foster.

What sort of stuff can be classed as 'privilaged', that can be given to the ODCE but not for public scrutiny?

Irishmale0399 · 07-05-2019 09:20PM

Nesta99 wrote: »

By trying to supress further info getting in to the public domain you'd have to question how genuine the FAI are about this process at all. What is 'privilaged' info submitted to the ODCE that's sealed, or wanted to be kept quiet with the paperwork that has taken things back to the High Court. It would hardly be employee contract details as surely that wouldnt be pertinent to issues of governance if the contracts are applied. That general info bar pension details are already generally known. Minutes of meetings maybe? It is certainly not giving even the impression of transparency that they are trying to foster.

What sort of stuff can be classed as 'privilaged', that can be given to the ODCE but not for public scrutiny?

They are all up to their necks in it and are trying to cover for each other. They all have to be removed asap...

Nesta99 · 07-05-2019 09:54PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

They are all up to their necks in it and are trying to cover for each other. They all have to be removed asap...

These are people that have professional registrations on the line so I can see why they are worried and close ranks but the genie is out of the bottle. Better to come clean and point fingers. The likes of Rea Walshe should be first in line to make sure her name is clear as she has an awful lot to lose if she is complicit with any obstruction. She could actually make a name for herself in making sure things are fully transparent. As an interim CEO she can steer clear of past messing but ensure her reputation is intact and even enhanced!

Irishmale0399 · 07-05-2019 10:05PM

Nesta99 wrote: »

These are people that have professional registrations on the line so I can see why they are worried and close ranks but the genie is out of the bottle. Better to come clean and point fingers. The likes of Rea Walshe should be first in line to make sure her name is clear as she has an awful lot to lose if she is complicit with any obstruction. She could actually make a name for herself in making sure things are fully transparent. As an interim CEO she can steer clear of past messing but ensure her reputation is intact and even enhanced!

I am told Rea Walshe is working wonders in the background. She is the link between SI and the ould cnuts who were milking it....she has a lot on the line and is no dope.

Dont forget...we still dont know who the whistle blower was.....but it had to be someone very close to JD as no one else seen anything.

expectationlost · 08-05-2019 12:23AM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

I am told Rea Walshe is working wonders in the background. She is the link between SI and the ould cnuts who were milking it....she has a lot on the line and is no dope.

she chose to work in organisation where John Delaney was the CEO, no dope?

08-05-2019 12:28AM

expectationlost wrote: »

she chose to work in organisation where John Delaney was the CEO, no dope?

Agreed. she is as Niall Quinn described whoever would act in the role, 'A gilly'

secman · 08-05-2019 12:34AM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

I am told Rea Walshe is working wonders in the background. She is the link between SI and the ould cnuts who were milking it....she has a lot on the line and is no dope.

Dont forget...we still dont know who the whistle blower was.....but it had to be someone very close to JD as no one else seen anything.

She was on the Governance committee...... odd that lack of Governance is one of the key problems being identified....

Nesta99 · 08-05-2019 01:59AM

With nobody (bar possibly JD) knowing the seedy reality its quite possible that she didnt know what she was getting in to or had to work under very difficult conditions. She may even have had to bide her time before she could so or say anything. Maybe she was just naive! But as mentioned we dont know who the whistleblower so maybe it was her lol. Either way she is now very much in the spotlight and how she handles things could make or break her career at the top level of an organisation.
So just on that basis if she is no dope she will be doing what she can if just in a self preservation way.

I am still none the wiser on what is 'privilaged' information in legal terms, that the FAI has gone to the high court about. Is it documentation handed over but that the ODCE cant access, cant use in their case, or simply cannot be released in their findings in due course?
It's another own goal no matter what way it is as it just perpetuates the public belief that will be no transparency and that this whole process is a charade SI involvement or not. Even if they said what the 'secret' documents were about, eg employee contracts or minutes of meetings they should just say so and could hold back the nitty gritty details. There is just more suspicion and ill will by this additional, seemingly anyway, hiding behind technicalities of the legal system. For PR reasons alone the FAI should offer some reasoning behind this - at least try and make an effort of an excuse!!

If anyone has an idea of when this type of court action happens, in some precedent case i'd love to hear an explination! If its damning enough for wanting this info surpressed then surely as part of the investigation the opposite should happen. Is it possible that it is prejudicial to some future more serious case? Mark Tighe should do a piece on why this tactic is ever employed for the clueless like myself! lol

expectationlost · 08-05-2019 01:28PM

Nesta99 wrote: »

With nobody (bar possibly JD) knowing the seedy reality its quite possible that she didnt know what she was getting in to or had to work under very difficult conditions. She may even have had to bide her time before she could so or say anything. Maybe she was just naive! But as mentioned we dont know who the whistleblower so maybe it was her lol. Either way she is now very much in the spotlight and how she handles things could make or break her career at the top level of an organisation.
So just on that basis if she is no dope she will be doing what she can if just in a self preservation way.

she joined the FAI in 2014, Delaney has stunk since long before that https://www.linkedin.com/in/rea-walshe-a97b0723/?originalSubdomain=ie

08-05-2019 06:24PM

Nesta99 wrote: »

I am still none the wiser on what is 'privilaged' information in legal terms, that the FAI has gone to the high court about. Is it documentation handed over but that the ODCE cant access, cant use in their case, or simply cannot be released in their findings in due course?

Privilege means a category of information or documents that will not be handed over or disclosed and a Court will not compel the party who receives the request to do so. The most common form of privilege is correspondence and communications between Solicitors, Barristers and clients. But that's not the only category that is privileged, historically matters disclosed in the confession box were privileged, disclosures between spouses, state or official secrets, correspondence marked without prejudice in the context of negotiations etc.

Gael85 · 09-05-2019 10:09AM

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4074458/fai-john-delaney-loyalty-package-golden-handcuffs-2million-deal/

Zebra3 · 09-05-2019 10:14AM

Gael85 wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4074458/fai-john-delaney-loyalty-package-golden-handcuffs-2million-deal/

Let’s see if there’s any rodents out there who will still defend Delaney.

yabadabado · 09-05-2019 10:22AM

The new info about JDs 2 million golden handshake deal that has came to light today doesnt look good for Rea Walshe.

Signed in 2014 when she was head of legal in the FAI and I'd say in that position she would be checking T&C on staff contracts.

She is also part of the governance review to reform FAI .Needs independent reform,anyone there with JD in the end is tarnished .

Corholio · 09-05-2019 11:48AM

FAI claiming privilege over 10 documents, including advice from Rea Walshe.

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1126435302652952576?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3.

On another note, A couple of FAI grassroots coaches I talked to didn't have particularly nice things to say about her and their dealings with her/her assistants.

yabadabado · 09-05-2019 11:50AM

Corholio wrote: »

FAI claiming privilege over 10 documents, including advice from Rea Walshe.

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1126435302652952576?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3.

On another note, A couple of FAI grassroots coaches I talked to didn't have particularly nice things to say about her and their dealings with her/her assistants.

If she was an FAI employee at the time then surely they can't use that she is a solicitor as a reason ?
She wasnt the FAI solicitor afaik.

Adamcp898 · 09-05-2019 12:04PM

She was employed in some sort of legal capacity afaik, perhaps compliance. Reason enough to want her out as well tbh given that she'll have presumably been aware of the how the FAI was run in such a role.

09-05-2019 12:22PM

yabadabado wrote: »

If she was an FAI employee at the time then surely they can't use that she is a solicitor as a reason ?
She wasnt the FAI solicitor afaik.

I think, to be careful, a Solicitor who is a member of a board or group and who is asked for advice should preface any advice by stating that it is given in his or her capacity as a Solicitor. I think most Solicitors who have been around the block would. Always assume that any document will end up in front of a Judge and you can't go far wrong.

shanec1928 · 09-05-2019 06:15PM

Good to see the progress being made with transparency at fai hq

Arghus · 10-05-2019 05:20PM

Gael85 wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4074458/fai-john-delaney-loyalty-package-golden-handcuffs-2million-deal/

I'm amazed how much this story has gone so much under the radar.
It's as brazen and shameless as anything we've heard so far.

Just An Opinion · 10-05-2019 05:51PM

Arghus wrote: »

I'm amazed how much this story has gone so much under the radar.
It's as brazen and shameless as anything we've heard so far.

This greedy pr!ck will take his off the charts brazenness and shameless self serving disgusting agenda in whatever direction it needs to go in order to line his own pockets. Absolutely nothing will surprise me with what comes out about him from here on, he’s an utter disgrace!

asteroids over berlin · 10-05-2019 07:29PM

surely the organisation has to be investigated for corruption and illegal codporate activities with charges brought against guilty individuals

Irishmale0399 · 10-05-2019 07:38PM

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1126888097071890432

Sport Ireland have appointed KOSI, a Northern Irish firm of accountants, to carry out "an extensive independent audit of the Football Association of Ireland"

All the auditors will be tripping over each other and it will only make things harder as documents will be all over the place. Very easy for the FAI to say auditor X had it so we couldnt present it!!

johnnyryan89 · 10-05-2019 08:33PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1126888097071890432

Sport Ireland have appointed KOSI, a Northern Irish firm of accountants, to carry out "an extensive independent audit of the Football Association of Ireland"

All the auditors will be tripping over each other and it will only make things harder as documents will be all over the place. Very easy for the FAI to say auditor X had it so we couldnt present it!!

Just send Maxi back down with a circle k fuel and let him finish off what he once started, then we can start afresh with a new football association.

Irishmale0399 · 10-05-2019 08:35PM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/delaney-used-henry-handball-payment-to-argue-for-2m-exit-deal-38097498.html

And it continues......

Irishmale0399 · 10-05-2019 08:39PM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Just send Maxi back down with a circle k fuel and let him finish off what he once started, then we can start afresh with a new football association.

Say what you want about Maxi......mad as a hatter but a hell of a nice man with his heart in the right place.

Maybe a few other LOI and junior clubs should come out and publically question the FAI, silence has been unreal from certain areas of the game. Add to that a few more fans asking SI and the FAI questions publically on social media.......social media is the new fuel.

uptherebels · 10-05-2019 08:40PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/delaney-used-henry-handball-payment-to-argue-for-2m-exit-deal-38097498.html

And it continues......

Wait, he got an improved contract in part for getting a loan for the FAI?

Irishmale0399 · 10-05-2019 08:48PM

uptherebels wrote: »

Wait, he got an improved contract in part for getting a loan for the FAI?

No for getting the €5million silence money from Blatter for Henrys handball.....so the FAI really only got 3...

OldMrBrennan83 · 10-05-2019 08:51PM

In fairness, you'd near have to tip the cap to him at this stage.

Irishmale0399 · 10-05-2019 09:10PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

In fairness, you'd near have to tip the cap to him at this stage.

Looks like he was signing contracts with himself. Sure no one else was keeping an eye on him. Board never seem to know anything about anything.

JD and his imaginary mate JD junior.....FAIs leadership.

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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