Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

The Jammy dodger · 09-05-2019 03:22PM #1

My neighbour has just threatened my 8 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

Seth Brundle · 09-05-2019 03:27PM

Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

My neighbour has just threatened my 7 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

Is your son 7 or 8 as you list both ages?

The Jammy dodger · 09-05-2019 03:28PM

CountingCrows wrote: »

He was inside all day yet he “ran inside crying” hmm..

He had literally just walked out the door I watched him walk out.

The Jammy dodger · 09-05-2019 03:28PM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

Is your son 7 or 8 as you list both ages?

Sorry he's 8. I'll edit that.

Seth Brundle · 09-05-2019 03:30PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

He had literally just walked out the door I watched him walk out.

So you were standing there watching your son (of uncertain age) walk outside and then be abused by the neighbour and subsequently come running back inside in tears.
And you did what exactly? You let him bully you?
Did you not demand an apology from your neighbour and that you're a witness to the fact that your son didn't cause any damage?
Did you not stand up to them properly?

is_that_so · 09-05-2019 03:31PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

My neighbour has just threatened my 7 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

It sounds like a lot of high emotions on both sides. Gardai are more likely to encourage reconciliation or discussion. Have you spoken to your son about what did or did not happen? Ultimately I think you will need to find a solution yourself, which involves a conversation with your neighbour. I certainly wouldn't consider any legal route at present.

09-05-2019 03:35PM

Tell him to f*ck off if you're that sure your kid didn't do it.

But calling the gards is a bit mad imo

The Jammy dodger · 09-05-2019 03:37PM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

So you were standing there watching your son (of uncertain age) walk outside and then be abused by the neighbour and subsequently come running back inside in tears.
And you did what exactly?

I watched him walk out the door from the stairs but then all of a sudden as if in a flash he comes in crying. Everyone was unanimous on the street that it was some other young girl of toddler age that was messing with it. I heard the shouting there's going to be trouble. But that's all I heard from my room upstairs before there was a big crying match and that's when my son explained to me he shouted at him ''unless that gets cleaned up there's going to be trouble'' I admittedly didn't hear the first bit because he must have only raised his tone in the latter part of the sentence.

That's when I went out, and in a tone that was visibly upset mixed with anger asked him why he would even threaten my son like that. Without responding he squared up to me, so I squared up to him in preparation for self defence and I went back into the house.

lawred2 · 09-05-2019 03:41PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

My neighbour has just threatened my 8 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

yes, if you know for a fact that your son did nothing then you can tell him to back the fu(k off..

the guards?

and say what?

The Jammy dodger · 09-05-2019 03:43PM

lawred2 wrote: »

yes, if you know for a fact that your son did nothing then you can tell him to back the fu(k off..

the guards?

and say what?

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

Infernal Racket · 09-05-2019 03:43PM

Can you be absolutely sure that your son didnt interfere with the flower bed? Has anything like this ever happened before with your neighbour losing the head. If not, what caused him to lose it this time? I know we all protect our kids but sometimes they're not the little darlings we would like them to be

Kevhog1988 · 09-05-2019 03:44PM

Knock on the fellas door and read him the riot act

kunst nugget · 09-05-2019 03:46PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

Sweet Jesus...

Infernal Racket · 09-05-2019 03:47PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

Sweet Jesus...

I hear ya. Imagine this is the mind set of a huge amount of people nowadays. Mental anguish ya know

Rubberchikken · 09-05-2019 03:48PM

are you certain your son wasnt involved?
kids arent angels no matter how much we'd like to think they might be.
does this neighbour behave like this for everything? it seems a bit ott.
squaring up to him is only going to make matters worse. try to find out exactly what happened. neighbours fighting is unpleasant for everyone.

09-05-2019 03:48PM

The Jammy dodger wrote:

My neighbour has just threatened my 8 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

There isn't a real threat in there either.

GBX · 09-05-2019 03:49PM

Did you approach the neighbour or come straight to Boards to post first?

road_high · 09-05-2019 03:50PM

Kids are wrapped in cotton wool these days- can't count the amount of times i was given out to by aul bollox's in various circumstances, usually for sweet eff all. There are arseholes in this world and if nothing else a good lesson for you so to see that. Hard and all as it is on him and your natural urge is to protect him.

is_that_so · 09-05-2019 03:52PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

The number of times I was threatened as a child! Some people have a very unfortunate and scary manner of speaking. Kids are very resilient and bounce back. It seems you need to draw a line under it yourself. Talk to some people around you, see what they suggest.

The Jammy dodger · 09-05-2019 03:53PM

Gerry G wrote: »

Can you be absolutely sure that your son didnt interfere with the flower bed? Has anything like this ever happened before with your neighbour losing the head. If not, what caused him to lose it this time? I know we all protect our kids but sometimes they're not the little darlings we would like them to be

Nothing like this has happened before but he's always just aimlessly blaming kids for tiny scratches on his car etc etc a general pain in the neck. But the fact that he didn't respond with any kind of calm and intellectual response even if it was with anger who cares and instead assumed a fighting tone tells me he was afraid because he knew it was wrong what he did because people generally who aren't telling the truth lose their absolute cool.

My son has done stuff in the past and I get them to fess up to it and have often dealt with it immediately but on this occasion I'm 100% certain that he didn't do a thing but even if he did, does not deserve to be spoken to in an adult and threatening manner. If I've a problem with someones kid I'll go straight to the parents which is what he should have done. He did it when his car was scratched, I said have you got visible evidence that he scratched your car? ''No'' then when you do let me know and I'll consider helping you out with the costs but you can't just assume someones done something.

This is the kind he is and then he'll move on to the next kid until he finds a parent who is a sucker and will give him money for his scratch on the car.

Homer · 09-05-2019 03:56PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

I'm 100% certain that he didn't do a thing but even if he did, does not deserve to be spoken to in an adult and threatening manner.

Jesus wept... You were upstairs by your own admission so couldn't possibly have seen what jammy dodger Jnr was up to! I think you've been watching one too many of those personal injury solicitor adverts on UK television.

09-05-2019 03:58PM

The Jammy dodger wrote:

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

Yes, possibly if he threatened your sons life, threatened to assault him or cut off his hand. But saying that there will be hell to pay doesn't fall under Gardai remit

Mickeroo · 09-05-2019 03:59PM

There's a good chance the kids did scratch his car tbh. Generally people in estates just let their kids run around like it's a public playground.

Mrs OBumble · 09-05-2019 03:59PM

Did your kid go to school today? What did he do on the way home?

TheShow · 09-05-2019 04:06PM

The guards wont do anything for you, there was no crime. Why would you waste their time...

He sounds like an idiot confronting a child with or without any evidence of said transgression.

Hal3000 · 09-05-2019 04:09PM

road_high wrote: »

Kids are wrapped in cotton wool these days- can't count the amount of times i was given out to by aul bollox's in various circumstances, usually for sweet eff all. There are arseholes in this world and if nothing else a good lesson for you so to see that. Hard and all as it is on him and your natural urge is to protect him.

Finally sense.... Jesus I remember an old fella on the road chasing us with a stick when I was a kid. Christ Almighty the cotton wool parenting these days...The guards should only be rung in emergencies. This is not an emergency, it's a pi**Ed off neighbour. Have a word if you think it will help.

dhaughton99 · 09-05-2019 04:27PM

2 weeks ago, a neighbor at the back of me, had words with one of our redheaded ethnic cousins child because he hit his daughter. He goes back in to make the dinner, in strolls the ethnics father through his front door and starts attacking him. Neighbor ends up sticking a knife in his shoulder. Ethnic goes off bleeding and the usual threats. Ambulance and lots of Garda come and do house to house calls looking for info. Neighbor is after having to pack his wife and 2 kids off because the cars turning up and threats being made. Doesn’t look like they are coming back. Ethnic is in the brand new council house only 6 months. Place is like a ghost town now because no one will let their kids out to play.

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-05-2019 04:27PM

I suppose at a stretch it's a section 2 assault, and I say that in a desperate attempt to steer the thread in the direction of a legal discussion but to wade in with the high horse brigade tell the kid not to be such a baby and tell the gardener where to go.

lawred2 · 09-05-2019 04:29PM

I'm struggling to feel much sympathy for someone who ends a dispute by stabbing someone else

nuac · 09-05-2019 04:30PM

Mod
Any legal discussion here?

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-05-2019 04:30PM

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm struggling to feel much sympathy for someone who ends a dispute by stabbing someone else

Defence and the Dwelling act. :pac:

Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

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