Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

The Jammy dodger

My neighbour has just threatened my 8 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

Seth Brundle

Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

My neighbour has just threatened my 7 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

Is your son 7 or 8 as you list both ages?

The Jammy dodger

CountingCrows wrote: »

He was inside all day yet he “ran inside crying” hmm..

He had literally just walked out the door I watched him walk out.

The Jammy dodger

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Neighbour threatening 8 year old son.

Is your son 7 or 8 as you list both ages?

Sorry he's 8. I'll edit that.

Seth Brundle

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

He had literally just walked out the door I watched him walk out.

So you were standing there watching your son (of uncertain age) walk outside and then be abused by the neighbour and subsequently come running back inside in tears.
And you did what exactly? You let him bully you?
Did you not demand an apology from your neighbour and that you're a witness to the fact that your son didn't cause any damage?
Did you not stand up to them properly?

is_that_so

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

My neighbour has just threatened my 7 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

It sounds like a lot of high emotions on both sides. Gardai are more likely to encourage reconciliation or discussion. Have you spoken to your son about what did or did not happen? Ultimately I think you will need to find a solution yourself, which involves a conversation with your neighbour. I certainly wouldn't consider any legal route at present.

Tell him to f*ck off if you're that sure your kid didn't do it.

But calling the gards is a bit mad imo

The Jammy dodger

Seth Brundle wrote: »

So you were standing there watching your son (of uncertain age) walk outside and then be abused by the neighbour and subsequently come running back inside in tears.
And you did what exactly?

I watched him walk out the door from the stairs but then all of a sudden as if in a flash he comes in crying. Everyone was unanimous on the street that it was some other young girl of toddler age that was messing with it. I heard the shouting there's going to be trouble. But that's all I heard from my room upstairs before there was a big crying match and that's when my son explained to me he shouted at him ''unless that gets cleaned up there's going to be trouble'' I admittedly didn't hear the first bit because he must have only raised his tone in the latter part of the sentence.

That's when I went out, and in a tone that was visibly upset mixed with anger asked him why he would even threaten my son like that. Without responding he squared up to me, so I squared up to him in preparation for self defence and I went back into the house.

lawred2

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

My neighbour has just threatened my 8 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

Is there anything that can be done?

yes, if you know for a fact that your son did nothing then you can tell him to back the fu(k off..

the guards?

and say what?

The Jammy dodger

lawred2 wrote: »

yes, if you know for a fact that your son did nothing then you can tell him to back the fu(k off..

the guards?

and say what?

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

Infernal Racket

Can you be absolutely sure that your son didnt interfere with the flower bed? Has anything like this ever happened before with your neighbour losing the head. If not, what caused him to lose it this time? I know we all protect our kids but sometimes they're not the little darlings we would like them to be

Kevhog1988

Knock on the fellas door and read him the riot act

kunst nugget

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

Sweet Jesus...

Infernal Racket

kunst nugget wrote: »

Sweet Jesus...

I hear ya. Imagine this is the mind set of a huge amount of people nowadays. Mental anguish ya know

Rubberchikken

are you certain your son wasnt involved?
kids arent angels no matter how much we'd like to think they might be.
does this neighbour behave like this for everything? it seems a bit ott.
squaring up to him is only going to make matters worse. try to find out exactly what happened. neighbours fighting is unpleasant for everyone.

Sleeper12

The Jammy dodger wrote:

My neighbour has just threatened my 8 year old son claiming that a flowerbed he'd organised outside on the mainroad was disturbed by him when it wasn't because he was inside all day. He shouted at him that unless it's cleaned up there's going to be trouble. My 8 year old ran into the house crying and upset about it. Is this something I can call the guards about? I confronted him, he suddenly got angry and squared up to me.

There isn't a real threat in there either.

GBX

Did you approach the neighbour or come straight to Boards to post first?

road_high

Kids are wrapped in cotton wool these days- can't count the amount of times i was given out to by aul bollox's in various circumstances, usually for sweet eff all. There are arseholes in this world and if nothing else a good lesson for you so to see that. Hard and all as it is on him and your natural urge is to protect him.

is_that_so

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

The number of times I was threatened as a child! Some people have a very unfortunate and scary manner of speaking. Kids are very resilient and bounce back. It seems you need to draw a line under it yourself. Talk to some people around you, see what they suggest.

The Jammy dodger

Gerry G wrote: »

Can you be absolutely sure that your son didnt interfere with the flower bed? Has anything like this ever happened before with your neighbour losing the head. If not, what caused him to lose it this time? I know we all protect our kids but sometimes they're not the little darlings we would like them to be

Nothing like this has happened before but he's always just aimlessly blaming kids for tiny scratches on his car etc etc a general pain in the neck. But the fact that he didn't respond with any kind of calm and intellectual response even if it was with anger who cares and instead assumed a fighting tone tells me he was afraid because he knew it was wrong what he did because people generally who aren't telling the truth lose their absolute cool.

My son has done stuff in the past and I get them to fess up to it and have often dealt with it immediately but on this occasion I'm 100% certain that he didn't do a thing but even if he did, does not deserve to be spoken to in an adult and threatening manner. If I've a problem with someones kid I'll go straight to the parents which is what he should have done. He did it when his car was scratched, I said have you got visible evidence that he scratched your car? ''No'' then when you do let me know and I'll consider helping you out with the costs but you can't just assume someones done something.

This is the kind he is and then he'll move on to the next kid until he finds a parent who is a sucker and will give him money for his scratch on the car.

Homer

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

I'm 100% certain that he didn't do a thing but even if he did, does not deserve to be spoken to in an adult and threatening manner.

Jesus wept... You were upstairs by your own admission so couldn't possibly have seen what jammy dodger Jnr was up to! I think you've been watching one too many of those personal injury solicitor adverts on UK television.

Sleeper12

The Jammy dodger wrote:

Well isn't threatening a young child some sort of crime to cause them mental anguish like that?

Yes, possibly if he threatened your sons life, threatened to assault him or cut off his hand. But saying that there will be hell to pay doesn't fall under Gardai remit

Mickeroo

There's a good chance the kids did scratch his car tbh. Generally people in estates just let their kids run around like it's a public playground.

Mrs OBumble

Did your kid go to school today? What did he do on the way home?

TheShow

The guards wont do anything for you, there was no crime. Why would you waste their time...

He sounds like an idiot confronting a child with or without any evidence of said transgression.

Hal3000

road_high wrote: »

Kids are wrapped in cotton wool these days- can't count the amount of times i was given out to by aul bollox's in various circumstances, usually for sweet eff all. There are arseholes in this world and if nothing else a good lesson for you so to see that. Hard and all as it is on him and your natural urge is to protect him.

Finally sense.... Jesus I remember an old fella on the road chasing us with a stick when I was a kid. Christ Almighty the cotton wool parenting these days...The guards should only be rung in emergencies. This is not an emergency, it's a pi**Ed off neighbour. Have a word if you think it will help.

dhaughton99

2 weeks ago, a neighbor at the back of me, had words with one of our redheaded ethnic cousins child because he hit his daughter. He goes back in to make the dinner, in strolls the ethnics father through his front door and starts attacking him. Neighbor ends up sticking a knife in his shoulder. Ethnic goes off bleeding and the usual threats. Ambulance and lots of Garda come and do house to house calls looking for info. Neighbor is after having to pack his wife and 2 kids off because the cars turning up and threats being made. Doesn’t look like they are coming back. Ethnic is in the brand new council house only 6 months. Place is like a ghost town now because no one will let their kids out to play.

Samuel T. Cogley

I suppose at a stretch it's a section 2 assault, and I say that in a desperate attempt to steer the thread in the direction of a legal discussion but to wade in with the high horse brigade tell the kid not to be such a baby and tell the gardener where to go.

lawred2

I'm struggling to feel much sympathy for someone who ends a dispute by stabbing someone else

nuac

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Any legal discussion here?

Samuel T. Cogley

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm struggling to feel much sympathy for someone who ends a dispute by stabbing someone else

Defence and the Dwelling act. :pac:

Tacitus Kilgore

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm struggling to feel much sympathy for someone who ends a dispute by stabbing someone else

Man walks uninvited through your front door and starts attacking you - nearest thing to hand to protect yourself is a knife -

Do you hand it to the attacker or use it to defend yourself?

lawred2

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Defence and the Dwelling act. :pac:

Actually I missed the 'enters front door bit'... Christ

Samuel T. Cogley

lawred2 wrote: »

Actually I missed the 'enters front door bit'... Christ

Applies to the Curt... the cur... the garden bit too.

dhaughton99

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm struggling to feel much sympathy for someone who ends a dispute by stabbing someone else

The thing is, they are a really nice family. Quite and respectable. Didn’t really know him but seemed a shy man but always said hello.

Caranica

What authority did your neighbour have to do work "outside on the main road"? Strikes me that there would be insurance and other issues. Ownership?

MrFresh

Most the Gardaí could do would be an ASBO but it's unlikely to result from a single act or incident.

Claw Hammer

I blame the parents!

IAMAMORON

Op - I am aware that this thread is going to deteriorate into a massive I hate travellers argument very soon. So before it does ….

Your child and you need to have more respect for your neighbours and their property. By doing this any animosity will disintegrate. Ever since my neighbour confiscated my football as a child I have learnt that laws exist outside of the stupid pedantic ones my parents made up.

Invite your neighbour in for a drink in the next while. The evenings are getting longer and the summer is starting, the last thing you need is a crap summer over someone's bad day and a trampled flower bed.

Have a good one, your child needs to learn how to take unfair bollickings from neighbours. At least it was said to his face, that will not always be the case with your neighbours.....

drunkmonkey

There all loveable until they get behind the wheel of a bumper car.

Alrigghtythen

Why should your neighbour have to put up with unsupervised children and their antics? Not only was your child unsupervised, a toddler was also left to their own devices earlier in the day?

Hal3000

dhaughton99 wrote: »

The thing is, they are a really nice family. Quite and respectable. Didn’t really know him but seemed a shy man but always said hello.

They're a really nice family who you don't really know very well.

kazamo

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

If I've a problem with someones kid I'll go straight to the parents which is what he should have done. He did it when his car was scratched, I said have you got visible evidence that he scratched your car? ''No'' then when you do let me know and I'll consider helping you out with the costs but you can't just assume someones done something.

This is the kind he is and then he'll move on to the next kid until he finds a parent who is a sucker and will give him money for his scratch on the car.

And you wonder how this escalated.

When your neighbours car was scratched he needed to show visible evidence of the culprit which I presume means video evidence, photographic evidence.
So the solution is for the neighbour to record anyone(including children) entering his property to identify the culprit if any damage caused.

Yeah, that is likely to end well for the neighbour as the parents absolve themselves of the responsibility for the children's actions.


What I found priceless was if he did produce the visible evidence that you would consider helping out with the costs. What a lovely attitude you have.

lawred2

kazamo wrote: »

And you wonder how this escalated.

When your neighbours car was scratched he needed to show visible evidence of the culprit which I presume means video evidence, photographic evidence.
So the solution is for the neighbour to record anyone(including children) entering his property to identify the culprit if any damage caused.

Yeah, that is likely to end well for the neighbour as the parents absolve themselves of the responsibility for the children's actions.


What I found priceless was if he did produce the visible evidence that you would consider helping out with the costs. What a lovely attitude you have.

Well would you have helped out with the costs without knowing who was responsible?

nuac

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