Who has right of way here?

TK Lemon · 02-05-2019 07:10PM #1

This is a road Mr. Lemon and I frequently travel on and it's always chaos and a pinch point.

Both vehicles are turning from a minor road into a bigger road, so both should yield to traffic already on it.

There is often a situation where both cars (A and

reach the point at the same time and there is a symphony of car horns and gestures out the window.

Who has right of way?

TK Lemon · 02-05-2019 07:11PM

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colm_mcm · 02-05-2019 07:12PM

Car B

Atlantic Dawn · 02-05-2019 07:12PM

Car B has right of way.

HeidiHeidi · 02-05-2019 07:12PM

The car turning right should yield to the car turning left.

Both should yield to traffic on the main road.

amcalester · 02-05-2019 07:13PM

Car B.

bucketybuck · 02-05-2019 07:14PM

I don't actually know, but my first thought is that car B has to give way to vehicles coming on its right, and that car A is most certainly approaching car B on its right. Car B should give way to Car A.

Alanstrainor · 02-05-2019 07:15PM

This is an interesting one, and I'd tend to agree with a lot of people here and say car B. But it's more about who moves first, if car A has proceeded out onto the main road then car B must yield, as they would for anyone who is already on the main road.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 02-05-2019 07:16PM

Car B. Even if you were there first. It’s car B.

luketitz · 02-05-2019 07:19PM

Yeah B has right of way eveey time as they don't have to cross the median line

easyeddie · 02-05-2019 07:25PM

Yes, its B. From the rules of the road:
If you plan to turn right at a junction and a vehicle from the opposite direction wants to turn into the same road, the vehicle that is turning left has right of way. If yours is the vehicle turning right, you must wait for the other vehicle to turn frst.

mikeecho · 02-05-2019 07:53PM

Car B has right of way over car A.

Both A&B must (obviously) yield to traffic on the main rd.

mikeecho · 02-05-2019 07:55PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

This is an interesting one, and I'd tend to agree with a lot of people here and say car B. But it's more about who moves first, if car A has proceeded out onto the main road then car B must yield, as they would for anyone who is already on the main road.

OP has stated that both cars arrive at junction at same time.. thus B has right of way.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 02-05-2019 08:13PM

OP did you think car A has the right of way? Might explain the beeping and wtf looks you’re getting.

Wishbone Ash · 02-05-2019 08:27PM

I used to live in an area where I was car B several times a day. It was never an issue as such but what used to irk me when most of the car A drivers would gesture for me to continue like they were doing me a favour.

I used to shout inside my head "I have the fucking right of way you idiot".

Dakota Dan · 02-05-2019 08:41PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I used to live in an area where I was car B several times a day. It was never an issue as such but what used to irk me when most of the car A drivers would gesture for me to continue like they were doing me a favour.

I used to shout inside my head "I have the fucking right of way you idiot".

They are the clowns that make up their own rules of the road. On a YouTube video a car drove out in front of a land rover already on the roundabout. The amount of clowns in the comments that thought the car driver was right because he was able to get in front of the Land Rover, totally ignoring the rules of the road that says you give way to traffic already on the roundabout coming from your right.

johndaman66 · 02-05-2019 11:40PM

This is interesting. I would agree with the general consensus that Car B has the right of way in this scenario.

But what if in a scenario if Car B is turning to their right onto the main road and crossing the median line also and Car A is also turning to their right as per the drawing and crossing the median line? The cars arrive at the junction at approximately the same time and effectively want to cross each others path and travel in opposite directions...who has the right of way in that situation? A few people have mentioned to me in the past that would have to be a gentlemans agreement but problem is not everyone on the road is a gentleman

GM228 · 02-05-2019 11:51PM

johndaman66 wrote: »

This is interesting. I would agree with the general consensus that Car B has the right of way in this scenario.

But what if in a scenario if Car B is turning to their right onto the main road and crossing the median line also and Car A is also turning to their right as per the drawing and crossing the median line? The cars arrive at the junction at approximately the same time and effectively want to cross each others path and travel in opposite directions...who has the right of way in that situation? A few people have mentioned to me in the past that would have to be a gentlemans agreement but problem is not everyone on the road is a gentleman

In such a case whoever actually commences the turn first has right of way.

If both happen to make the turn at the exact same time there are no yielding right of way rules to cover the scenario, you make a judgement call.

GM228 · 02-05-2019 11:57PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Car B. Even if you were there first. It’s car B.

Not necessarily, as Alanstrainor stated it depends on who commences their turn first, even if B you must yield right of way when approaching a junction to any vehicle which has already commenced it's turn.

johndaman66 · 03-05-2019 12:09AM

GM228 wrote: »

In such a case whoever actually commences the turn first has right of way.

If both happen to make the turn at the exact same time there are no yielding right of way rules to cover the scenario, you make a judgement call.

This is the problem really - Who is to say one commences the turn before the other? One say actually starts to move before the other but moves off more slowly...what then?... I have often seen that it is a very real every day situation that seems to cause confusion. If there was a smack I think it would most likely be a situation similar to a smack on a narrow local road with no road markings...ones word against the other with both needing to shell out for their own repairs in reality.

wonski · 03-05-2019 12:43AM

GM228 wrote: »

In such a case whoever actually commences the turn first has right of way.

If both happen to make the turn at the exact same time there are no yielding right of way rules to cover the scenario, you make a judgement call.

Alternatively they can take their turns without having to yield to each other if both are turning right

You don't have to go right to the middle of the roadmto do this turn. Both can turn right without any issues at the same time.

endacl · 03-05-2019 12:48AM

I’d wave ‘em on. Life’s too short...

Cookie_Monster · 03-05-2019 03:08AM

johndaman66 wrote: »

But what if in a scenario if Car B is turning to their right onto the main road and crossing the median line also and Car A is also turning to their right as per the drawing and crossing the median line?

but there is no issue here as they both just turn across each other without any impact on the other.

alfa beta · 03-05-2019 03:59AM

Saying Car B has right of way seems to be general consensus. And I'd go along with that.

Just wondering what if there's a queue of 'Car B's joining the main road. Does that mean CAR A has to give way to all the CAR B's - or is CAR A entitled to pull out between the CAR Bs (assuming main rd is clear.)

Mini roundabout called for imo!!!

amcalester · 03-05-2019 06:53AM

alfa beta wrote: »

Saying Car B has right of way seems to be general consensus. And I'd go along with that.

Just wondering what if there's a queue of 'Car B's joining the main road. Does that mean CAR A has to give way to all the CAR B's - or is CAR A entitled to pull out between the CAR Bs (assuming main rd is clear.)

Mini roundabout called for imo!!!

Staggered junction would be better, keeps traffic flowing on the main road.

IrishHomer · 03-05-2019 07:04AM

I live in a rural town with a junction same and none of locals know who has right of way. Local council have now decided to put lights on it shortly even though they put lights on another junction 200m away.

Separate issue pedestrians down here all walk on wrong side of the road. None of young generation seem know any basic road rules.

When I was a kid in the 70s TV was full of entertaining road safety ads.

kaahooters · 03-05-2019 07:22AM

car B has right of way (turning to its left with traffic flow), for turning as pictured as it docent cross traffic.

if car A is going its left(with traffic flow), and car b is going to its right(crossing traffic), to end up in the reverse situation, car A(with traffic flow) has right of was as its not crossing traffic..

if car b is going to its right (crossing traffic ) and car a is going to the right, they should both proceed to the middle of the road, and pass either infront, or behind each-other not obstructing traffic. shared right of way

Wishbone Ash · 03-05-2019 07:53AM

As the OP hasn't responded, I'm assuming that they were in Car A and not abiding by normal traffic regulations.

stefanovich · 03-05-2019 07:54AM

mikeecho wrote: »

OP has stated that both cars arrive at junction at same time.. thus B has right of way.

Nothing to do with when you arrive at the junction.

TK Lemon · 03-05-2019 08:04AM

We’re car A and car B at different times.

We generally just yield to avoid confrontation because cars barge out from both sides, regardless of right of way.

Isambard · 03-05-2019 08:15AM

if car b in the op were going straight on , he'd have right of way. Why would that change because he is actually turning left? Indicators are just an indication of intention.

Who has right of way here?

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