Add extension, create new dwelling - Limerick

Fatman Scoop · 28-04-2019 07:37PM #1

Friend has a semi d in Limerick City. She has a garage built at the side, she wants to knock this and put a 2 storey extension to her house.

It's a corner site so space is comfortable.

She's thinking of living in the extension and letting the main house. I think she won't be able to create a new dwelling, doubt she'd be given planning permission.

Anybody have any experience of this, and what might she do to maybe get planning?

Gumbo · 28-04-2019 09:12PM

Fatman Scoop wrote: »

Friend has a semi d in Limerick City. She has a garage built at the side, she wants to knock this and put a 2 storey extension to her house.

It's a corner site so space is comfortable.

She's thinking of living in the extension and letting the main house. I think she won't be able to create a new dwelling, doubt she'd be given planning permission.

Anybody have any experience of this, and what might she do to maybe get planning?

Go for pre-planning.
Most likely be refused based on the info you have supplied due to over development of the site.

She may be able to get a granny flat but this can never be separated from the main dwelling.

Fatman Scoop · 28-04-2019 09:50PM

kceire wrote: »

Go for pre-planning.
Most likely be refused based on the info you have supplied due to over development of the site.

She may be able to get a granny flat but this can never be separated from the main dwelling.

When you separated from the main dwelling, do you mean physically apart, or do you mean that it must contain - say - internal doors or corridor between old and new?

Gumbo · 29-04-2019 08:57AM

Fatman Scoop wrote: »

When you separated from the main dwelling, do you mean physically apart, or do you mean that it must contain - say - internal doors or corridor between old and new?

It cannot be physically separate.
It has to be built a an extension with internal doors connecting the 2.

Lumen · 29-04-2019 09:05AM

A better plan might be to live in a connected part of the house with own utilities and then get in licencees under rent-a-room.

14k tax free and almost all of the normal landlord risks gone.

But would still take a few years to pay back given costs of construction.

Fatman Scoop · 29-04-2019 12:15PM

kceire wrote: »

It cannot be physically separate.
It has to be built a an extension with internal doors connecting the 2.

The first part wouldn't be an issue. The second is what I expected to hear.

I don't know how open she might be to this internal door, it might put a halt to the idea.

sydthebeat · 29-04-2019 12:21PM

Fatman Scoop wrote: »

She's thinking of living in the extension and letting the main house. I think she won't be able to create a new dwelling, doubt she'd be given planning permission.

essentially she is creating 2 dwellings if she does that.

so unless all the requirements for a one bed unit are available to fit on the site, then its unlikely that permisison would be granted.

Fatman Scoop · 29-04-2019 01:15PM

Where would I find all the requirements for a 1 bed unit?
It may be feasible to satisfy these.

sydthebeat · 29-04-2019 01:17PM

https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/publications/files/design_standards_for_new_apartments_-_guidelines_for_planning_authorities_2018.pdf

Fatman Scoop · 29-04-2019 01:37PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/publications/files/design_standards_for_new_apartments_-_guidelines_for_planning_authorities_2018.pdf

Thanks Syd.

Would the development be considered an apartment in this instance? Presumably yes if that's what you are linking to.

Thanks.

sydthebeat · 29-04-2019 02:05PM

Fatman Scoop wrote: »

Thanks Syd.

Would the development be considered an apartment in this instance? Presumably yes if that's what you are linking to.

Thanks.

much the same requirements ie car parking, open space, room sizes, over all sizes etc

more here:
http://www.ciarrai.ie/en/allservices/planning/planningguides/guidelinesforplanningauthorities/thefile,411,en.pdf

Gumbo · 29-04-2019 02:34PM

Fatman Scoop wrote: »

Where would I find all the requirements for a 1 bed unit?
It may be feasible to satisfy these.

Get your councils development plan and search for infill development.

banie01 · 30-04-2019 11:16AM

I'm not a planning expert or familiar with Limerick's development plan.

I do however live there and I know on the northside of the city in particular fairly well.
There are a number of Semi-D on corner sites that have built second houses within their curtilage, and I know of one very recent example where the garden was split into 2 folios and a new house built.

Within 1km of thomond park, I can think of at least 5 examples of this, whilst it may be against the development plan as it stands would existing precedent allow an opportunity to do similar?

Gumbo · 30-04-2019 02:28PM

banie01 wrote: »

I'm not a planning expert or familiar with Limerick's development plan.

I do however live there and I know on the northside of the city in particular fairly well.
There are a number of Semi-D on corner sites that have built second houses within their curtilage, and I know of one very recent example where the garden was split into 2 folios and a new house built.

Within 1km of thomond park, I can think of at least 5 examples of this, whilst it may be against the development plan as it stands would existing precedent allow an opportunity to do similar?

That's exactly what I posted just above you.
Its called infill development.

If the OP can meet those requirements, then Planning has a chance.

Add extension, create new dwelling - Limerick

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