Saving Private Ryan returning to cinemas.

Dufflecoat Fanny · 27-04-2019 08:31PM

I saw this when it came out and it blew me away. The opening landing sequence was too much for some people and they got up and left. Then when the german killed the american in hand to hand combat a bunch more people left.

Arghus · 27-04-2019 08:59PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Not really. Most of these war movies depict Germans as inhuman killers whereas allied soldiers are always firmly in the pure as driven snow hero category.

It didn't need such an article really. It's blatantly obvious. Hardly something I'd describe as subtle.

Totally agree. The de-humanising of The German soldier is a feature of a lot of American WW2 films and Saving Private Ryan is no different.

However the article he linked too is full of fairly odious politics in general.

Dades · 27-04-2019 09:42PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Over 20 years old and still there's not been another film that can touch the utter brutality and rawness of the combat scenes.

The one-on-one fight in an upstairs room between Adam Goldberg and a German soldier I find really disturbing. It's nothing like a Hollywood knife fight, but a dirty horrible scrap to survive between two humans.

Dufflecoat Fanny · 27-04-2019 09:57PM

Arghus wrote: »

Totally agree. The de-humanising of The German soldier is a feature of a lot of American WW2 films and Saving Private Ryan is no different.

However the article he linked too is full of fairly odious politics in general.

The Germans are well able to see themselves as de-humanised too. Watch The Captain and you'll see what I mean.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_captain_2017

Kirby · 28-04-2019 06:58AM

lawred2 wrote: »

Not really. Most of these war movies depict Germans as inhuman killers whereas allied soldiers are always firmly in the pure as driven snow hero category.

It didn't need such an article really. It's blatantly obvious. Hardly something I'd describe as subtle.

Have you seen Fury? The main characters are portrayed as anything but pure as driven snow heroes.

The movie had its issues but an unrealistic portrayal of soldiers wasn't one of them.

beauf · 28-04-2019 09:17AM

pixelburp wrote: »

The film did kickstart the trend of handheld, "shaky cam" action, and while the master can't be blamed for the imitators, I still hold a little bitterness for Spielberg introducing this often repeated and equally often nauseating technique.

....

Man I hate shaky can.

The Rape of Lucretia · 28-04-2019 11:59AM

Very worth see the landing sequence in cinema all right for those who havent seen it. It was a league jump in war film realism, and worked in every way, shaky cam, slow mo, underwater, the whole chaos. Absolutely fantastic, and total shock to the the system when we saw it at the time. And it still stands up.

You can leave after that though. The rest of it has little or nothing to offer. Cliche, ticks a few standard plot boxes, and ends with a laughable A-Team worthy sequence. In sharp contrast to Band of Brothers, whose greatness was its echewing of that kind of pap. And thats leaving aside the bookend contemporary revisit bits. Probably meant something to sons of the greatest generation like Spielberg himself, but poor movie making.

Still, I'd pay in to see the first half hour again. Then leave.

Shred · 28-04-2019 01:20PM

Cheers OP, I just picked up tickets for Vue.

It's one of my absolute favourite films and it was an incredible experience seeing it in Savoy (R.I.P.) when it came out. It became my go to demo movie for my home cinema at the time; the sound is incredible. I bought the 4k Blu-Ray last year and it still looks absolutely amazing, then there's the Dolby Atmos track - whoa :eek:

Guy:Incognito · 28-04-2019 01:25PM

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

I. and bringing these movies back to the Cinema just smacks of lets make more money !

Tell me about it. Youd nearly think they were businesses they was these crowds operate.

Guy:Incognito · 28-04-2019 01:26PM

Killinator wrote: »

So anybody know which cimenas are showing. Searched Vue in adublin but it wasn't showing up

I booked it in vue just after the OP posted.

Edit , see you go sorted.

Nobelium · 28-04-2019 01:29PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Can't for the life of me see why Irish cinemas should be showing this for an anniversary of D-Day.

Celebrate it as fantastic piece of cinema and an an excellent movie fine but D-Day anniversary celebrations are not really something I think we should be getting involved in.

The Irish army reserve played the extras in the D-Day scenes and Ballinesker Beach, Curracloe Strand, Ballinesker in Co. Wicklow and Ardmore studies were used for the filming of the D-Day sequence in the film.

lawred2 · 28-04-2019 01:43PM

Nobelium wrote: »

The Irish army reserve played the extras in the D-Day scenes and Ballinesker Beach, Curracloe Strand, Ballinesker in Co. Wicklow and Ardmore studies were used for the filming of the D-Day sequence in the film.

Yeah it's almost like they were there on Omaha beach in 1944..

I jest but some Irish people being extras in a movie filmed in Ireland doesn't really mean a whole lot.

beauf · 28-04-2019 03:25PM

lawred2 wrote: »

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Yeah it's almost like they were there on Omaha beach in 1944..

I jest but some Irish people being extras in a movie filmed in Ireland doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Well other then those people and their friends and family have in seeing them in the cinema.

Besides there were a lot of Irish who fought in WW2 and were involved in d-day.

Also it's a water shed in cinema at least for war movies. So movie buffs would be interested.

beauf · 28-04-2019 03:35PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Very worth see the landing sequence in cinema all right for those who havent seen it. It was a league jump in war film realism, and worked in every way, shaky cam, slow mo, underwater, the whole chaos. Absolutely fantastic, and total shock to the the system when we saw it at the time. And it still stands up.

You can leave after that though. The rest of it has little or nothing to offer. Cliche, ticks a few standard plot boxes, and ends with a laughable A-Team worthy sequence. In sharp contrast to Band of Brothers, whose greatness was its echewing of that kind of pap. And thats leaving aside the bookend contemporary revisit bits. Probably meant something to sons of the greatest generation like Spielberg himself, but poor movie making.

Still, I'd pay in to see the first half hour again. Then leave.

That's a bit harsh. The rest of the movie has some great scenes. Perhaps not accurate and bias. But they capture the misery and emotional trauma of war/combat. No movie is accurate but they have to tell a story and give some sense of the experience. The rest of the movie does that. If clichéd. Still very worth watching.

Maybe I'm of a different generation where I can see the flaws and not let them distract me that much, as we had to use our imagination to look past this kinda stuff in older movies.

Fury is another flawed movie in so many ways, but lots to appreciate as well. The sound of a tank firing etc.

Nobelium · 28-04-2019 04:27PM

beauf wrote: »

Also it's a water shed in cinema at least for war movies. So movie buffs would be interested.

Filmed on Irish beaches, with Irish Defence Forces reenacting one of the most realistic war film scenes ever. The mind boggles as to why some Irish people would question why it should be re shown in an Irish cinema.

lawred2 · 28-04-2019 04:54PM

Nobelium wrote: »

Filmed on Irish beaches, with Irish Defence Forces reenacting one of the most realistic war film scenes ever. The mind boggles as to why some Irish people would question why it should be re shown in an Irish cinema.

As an allied forces D-Day commemoration?

Snake Plisken · 28-04-2019 05:15PM

Great Movie remember seeing it with my Brother in Blanch.
Btw if you have a decent 4K TV and Apple 4K box you can pick this up for €4.99
Also its a free country last time I checked! if anyone wants to go watch one of the very best War movies they can and it shouldn't matter if your Irish or not! Take your political agendas elsewhere!

beauf · 28-04-2019 05:19PM

lawred2 wrote: »

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As an allied forces D-Day commemoration?

Is anti d-day a thing now?

squawker · 28-04-2019 05:22PM

LastLagoon wrote: »

Thin Red Line which came out around the same time was way better

that was a biggest load of pretentious twaddle I have ever seen

lawred2 · 28-04-2019 05:51PM

beauf wrote: »

Is anti d-day a thing now?

Not at all. Personally I find it odd to commemorate something that had nothing to do with us.

Others don't. Grand. As someone else said it's a free country.

I've probably seen that movie four or five times myself but just wouldn't go to see it for those purposes. That's all.

Arghus · 29-04-2019 01:36AM

lawred2 wrote: »

Not at all. Personally I find it odd to commemorate something that had nothing to do with us.

Others don't. Grand. As someone else said it's a free country.

I've probably seen that movie four or five times myself but just wouldn't go to see it for those purposes. That's all.

The dramatised events of D-Day make up a good chunk of the entire first act of the movie, surely it makes a certain degree of sense to re-release it on that anniversary date rather than any other random date on the calender?

I wouldn't get too caught up on the "commemorative" side of things. Yeah, it's a nod to the history depicted on screen and featured prominently in the film, but at the end of the day it's just a film re-release really.

valoren · 29-04-2019 12:27PM

Nobelium wrote: »

Filmed on Irish beaches, with Irish Defence Forces reenacting one of the most realistic war film scenes ever. The mind boggles as to why some Irish people would question why it should be re shown in an Irish cinema.

In the summer of 1997 I think it was RTE who dedicated an episode of Nationwide detailing the production at Curracloe. The whole premise was regarding the attractiveness of Ireland as a tax-breaking filming location and given the success of Braveheart this was now vindicated as more big names with Spielberg and Hanks were now here filming. The program mainly involved interviewing the hired defence force extras, who were simultaneously delighted with the generous daily rate but bored at all the waiting around. There were then some scenes of the extras "performing" i.e. An assistant director would shout "Action", the lads would jump up and run, some would comically fall over having gotten shot and the squibs in the sand would go off to simulate the bullet hits. The whole thing looked to be a laugh and a joke for the lads.

I just had a feeling that the whole thing looked ridiculous and distinctly 'Hollywood' i.e. a slick production in town to make a glamorous stars n' stripes old-school depiction of the D-Day landing with people falling over dramatically. That was my expectation going in to watch it but when the opening scene segues from the graveyard in France to the low shot of the waves on the beach and then jump cuts to the Higgins boats bearing down on the beach my misgivings from the Nationwide show were all forgotten about. A grim, nauseating, bloody, adrenaline pumping, traumatising and ear shattering scene. Just like it must have been on the day. After two disappointments from Spielberg (with Lost World/Amistad) he reminded us what a genius he is in that opening sequence and what a brilliant job the extras actually did.

TheIrishGrover · 29-04-2019 12:58PM

I wasn't gone on the film. I "enjoyed" it (If that's the word you should use) initially but after about a day or so I re-evaluated my opinion (Again, just MY opinion). Watching it again shortly afterwards reinforced my opinion.

The first 20 mins or so showed the raw brutality of war: Guys who had trained for months and been equipped and shipped all the way over were instantly killed without having taken a step off the landing craft. This was no 60's/70's war movie with the group on a mission goin' Nazi huntin'. This was hard to watch slaughter.

But then the rest of the film is exactly that: Men On A Mission type thing with very thinly drawn characters in general. I just thought the rest of the movie went against the grain of the brutal and honest start.

silverharp · 29-04-2019 04:40PM

The Longest Day is a better movie from an historical perspective, Saving Private Ryan is basically a generic war flick for the most part

Nobelium · 29-04-2019 09:15PM

lawred2 wrote: »

As an allied forces D-Day commemoration?

Irish cinema's can put it on whatever day they like, and Irish film goers can enjoy it whatever day they like without your permission.

Filmed on Irish beaches, using the legitimate Irish Defence Forces, so you can politely shove any provo/ISIS/Saoradh loving politics up your hole.

lawred2 · 29-04-2019 10:13PM

Charming

Arghus · 30-04-2019 02:45AM

Nobelium wrote: »

Irish cinema's can put it on whatever day they like, and Irish film goers can enjoy it whatever day they like without your permission.

Filmed on Irish beaches, using the legitimate Irish Defence Forces, so you can politely shove any provo/ISIS/Saoradh loving politics up your hole.

Hey, at least he put the smiley face at the end.

Saved it from sounding like an unhinged rant.

Theboinkmaster · 30-04-2019 08:30PM

Loved the first half hour but the rest of the film is MEH

Band of brothers far superior

Nobelium · 30-04-2019 10:21PM

Arghus wrote: »

Hey, at least he put the smiley face at the end.

Saved it from sounding like an unhinged rant.

I'm not the one that has some weird provo/saoradh type issue with people going to see saving private ryan

TerrorFirmer · 30-04-2019 10:59PM

Nobelium wrote: »

I'm not the one that has some weird provo/saoradh type issue with people going to see saving private ryan

Bit much. The reason the film is being screened here again is that SVP is arguably the best war movie ever made, is widely recognised as same, people would likely appreciate being able to see it on the big screen for either the first time, or again, and it's the D-Day anniversary.

No point looking too deeply into it or finding things that aren't there.

It's nothing to do with the fact it was shot here or that it had Irish extras.

Saving Private Ryan returning to cinemas.

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