Avengers: Endgame [** SPOILERS FROM POST 613 **]

The way I'm treating it is that if 2014 thanos isn't there to do infinity war, everything in this movie doesn't happen. But if this movie doesn't happen, 2014 thanos is there to make the events of infinity War happen, which makes the time travel of this movie happen. But that means 2014 thanos isn't there to make infinity war...... Etc etc etc

So the universe does itself a favour and says time is looped so all of this happened and we can all carry on going on.

Loughc wrote: »

Also what’s stopping 2013 Thanos stealing the stones again.

Seeing they dropped back all of the infinity stones. I get that 2014 Thanos is dead but what about pre-2014 Thanos?

2013 Thanos is 2014 Thanos though no? Like there is no Thanos from 2014 on because he jumped forward he was killed in 2019?

Also someone back there mentioned captain marvel. The guns turning and firing was a pretty cool scene in fairness but she wasn't remotely needed and my big fear going into this was that she was going to come in and save the day kinda taking from the decade long story. I knew it wouldn't happen but a part of me thought it would be a deadly plot point if he kicked her ass like the hulk in IW. Although getting the drop on her with the switching the stone between hands was pretty good too.

Ya the time travel gubbins is going to get a lot of people worked up with alternative timelines.

2014 Gamora has no idea about Quill, hence why we see Quill at the end "searching" for her on the ship, at the moment, shes jumped 5 years into the future and has no attachment to the GoTG or Quill.

I think they'll handle it by having everything pre-2014 Thanos as not being aware of the future until hes dragged into 2019 by the 2nd Nebulas recording and then going to chase the stones.

Unless we assume that the Ancient One isnt talking out her arse and Cap has put the original stones back into play to balance the universe, everything is wrapped up nicely.

Still haven't seen Black Panther and didn't see Captain Overkill neither can't wait for a southern Mutant to come along and kick her over brooding ass. Get it done Disney.

Rollercoaster of a movie cementing Barton's turn in the opening scene was so captivating Thor Hulk and Tony's character development was shocking I expected more deaths, the lift scene was an extremely satisfying Easter egg as was Thor's roommates. A lot of plot holes and too much tying up of loose ends for guardians related stuff but Star Lord getting his groove on my god that was epic. Good way to spend 3+ hours I'll wanna see it again but more likely with Infinity War first as trying to remember some of the scenes was hard.

bur wrote: »

They should have waited until after Endgame to introduce Captain Marvel. She swoops in our of nowhere as the big hero of this ten year saga, but she wasn't needed to beat Thanos.

Was she added in post production?

I think they did it well, she got some screen time but the movie focused on the originals. Again she appears at the end to to destroy the ship whichbwould have obliterated them by the looks of it

GavRedKing wrote: »

Just back from it and I don't know was I expecting too much but the film was a massive disappointment and a bit of let down IMO.

Id have preferred if they had killed off another half a dozen characters or so in the process of retrieving the stones and fighting Thanos at the end, there was no real sense of danger for the characters.

Tony's scene was predictable and it didn't really connect emotionally as the film still had 10/15mins to play out.

The only one I feel sorry for was Thanos, the universe was at least balanced and better off the way it was when he was off farming. :pac:

For me, Infinity Wars was a better film, to paraphrase and steal Tony's words : part of the journey (infinity wars) is better than the end (endgame).

It wasn't all bad but I didn't get a sense of much devastation from the "vanished" there was a memorial park in San Francisco and a meeting group setup by Captain America and the odd scene where people mentioned dead loved ones.

The powers of the heroes vary wildly too, Thanos seemed as powerful in this with no stones as he was in the last film with a gauntlet full and Thor was nerfed massively, storm breaker cut through the full power of the gauntlet last time but was stopped by a blade this time around made zero sense.

I think the Russos done a decent job over the two films but this was not much more than a solid 7/10 effort.

I pretty much agree with all that, maybe on second viewing I'll warm to it more but half way through it I wasn't getting into it at all.
Some great moments but also more than usual that annoyed me and unfortunately they have stuck with me.

Prof Hulk was a let down, would have benefited from his creation rather than hearing it over a coffee, but there was enough time pressure on the story I guess.
They could have shown a few shots of the wider impact of the snap, wouldn't have taken much time for that.
Thor was turned into a joke, hard to take him seriously again. As above, Storm breaker was able to best Thanos twice but it and the hammer wasn't able to do much against his new blade, was it Valayrian steel?
I get Cap was worthy to wield the hammer but how was he able to call on the lightning? Ragnarok made the point that that ability was always within Thor, and the hammer just a conduit to focus it.
The 'girls night out' would only have been more cheesy if they suddenly pulled on Black Widow t-shirts.

The undo of the snap brought everyone back but as they were 5 years ago, food supply, difficulties with unsnapped having moved on from snapped partners, property inheritance etc. terrible idea, just to ensure Tony's daughter still existed and it was a fair chance she would have been conceived anyway.
The final battle was impressive if a little over whelming, spent more time focus on who all the characters were rather than the action. The Black Order we're seriously underpowered this time.

I did like the Hawkeye arc, esp as he was a character I wasn't bothered with in the past.
Sad seeing Black Widow and Ironman die, they did a top job on Tony's death scene, not over the top.

Overall, I enjoyed it but it didn't have an impact on me like IW did.
Overall I felt they tried to cram too much and too many characters into it, and the whole story was all down to a rat.

Oh, and spoiler tags are not necessary anymore folks.

Jayson Small Fur wrote: »

haha, I feel you. My viewing had a drunk guy light up a cigarette and start puffing away.

While inconsiderate and illegal........at least that's quiet. Like, I missed so much dialogue because of loud asshats. One example, Sam's "On your left" moment when he appeared beside Cap? Never heard it. Had to just read about it online.

I'm still a little annoyed, to be honest. I might go see it again in a couple of weeks when the f*cktards are all back in school.

paulbok wrote: »

I get Cap was worthy to wield the hammer but how was he able to call on the lightning? Ragnarok made the point that that ability was always within This, and the hammer just a conduit to focus it.

"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."

The White Wolf wrote: »

That's all true.....and ripe for a certain villain to be brought into the fold.

Either way I'd say there will be consequences to the unsnap, starting with Dr Strange 2 and possibly beyond.

Yeah, the conversation between Tilda Swanson's character and Banner really pointed to a potential conflict for Strange - even though the events of Endgame ultimately prove him to be correct.

Its prob not possible too add the current xmen too the MCU

paulbok wrote: »

Mine had just started and it was delayed by 15 minutes because of latecomers. All teenagers, arms full of junk food and the fact they were late didn't faze them, marched all the way up to the back looking for seats and then moaning on the way down that they'd have to sit at the front.

I had nerds behind me, one of whom was with a girl who had to have everything explained to her. I got the impression that she hadn't seen IW. :rolleyes:

It took multiple "shhhhhhhhs" and one "shut the **** up, lads, will you?" to stop them.

Loved the movie though.

On a side note, how can a cinema run out of popcorn for the biggest movie of the year? If I was managing there, I'd have had that popping machine going from 1pm all day yesterday to fill bags to have it ready. I'd say they missed out on a small fortune due to bad management (or laziness).

5star02707 wrote: »

Nobody would rescue Tony in space to bring him back to Earth.

On this, how did Cap Marvel know where Tony was?! Very disappointed with how 'simple' it seemed to find him?

“I can do this all day”
“Yea, I know, I know”