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California Dreamer · 24-04-2019 11:28PM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

I toyed with the idea of a Mini for a while recently, but after a bit of research and following adverts on Donedeal etc, they really don't seem to be a car I'd bank on as a main car

One of the huge things that will strike you when trawling through the adverts are the number of them without NCT's and also listed with faults and heating issues etc.

Not saying not to, just research them well and know what to watch out for

Most I have seen have an NCT until the end of the year. Around the €1k mark, wouldn't be a main car either. Just something for a bit of fun driving and wouldn't care if it blew up come October!

Mad_Mike · 25-04-2019 12:01AM

flexcon wrote: »

Went to see this today, it’s spotless. The body is immaculate

Engine had plenty of Milk around the oil cap and and dip stick so i walked away. Such a Shame as the car itself is in great condition

If the mileage is genuine on that car, it's doing about 5k a year, which is only about 100 miles a week, so it's quite possible it is only doing short runs and never running long enough to build up decent heat, so that could be just condensation on the cap and dipstick.

A mate of mine drove an E46 for over 2 years, and he drove 5 miles to work, on country roads, got there in about 5 or 6 mins. Car sat all day, and then 5 miles home in the evening. He constantly had milk under the cap and in around the top of the engine, and on the dipstick as the car never got a chance to warm up properly, but never had an issue with the car.

Having said that, it's always better to be safe than sorry!

Duke O Smiley · 25-04-2019 12:07AM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

If the mileage is genuine on that car, it's doing about 5k a year, which is only about 100 miles a week, so it's quite possible it is only doing short runs and never running long enough to build up decent heat, so that could be just condensation on the cap and dipstick.

A mate of mine drove an E46 for over 2 years, and he drove 5 miles to work, on country roads, got there in about 5 or 6 mins. Car sat all day, and then 5 miles home in the evening. He constantly had milk under the cap and in around the top of the engine, and on the dipstick as the car never got a chance to warm up properly, but never had an issue with the car.

Having said that, it's always better to be safe than sorry!

This would be my thinking entirely

25-04-2019 12:07AM

I've never heard of mayonnaise on a dipstick from lack of mileage, a little bit around the oil cap sure.

Mad_Mike · 25-04-2019 12:17AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've never heard of mayonnaise on a dipstick from lack of mileage, a little bit around the oil cap sure.

Not as common as the oil cap, as it's closer to the heat from the oil in the sump, but have seen it a few times. Basically its the same reason. Heat builds up slightly, car is switched off, you get condensation in the tube as it cools down and the moisture mixing with the oil on the dipstick looks slightly creamy

Duke O Smiley · 25-04-2019 12:17AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've never heard of mayonnaise on a dipstick from lack of mileage, a little bit around the oil cap sure.

It’s certainly possible that build up can happen on the dipstick

California Dreamer · 25-04-2019 12:35AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've never heard of mayonnaise on a dipstick from lack of mileage, a little bit around the oil cap sure.

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Sorry I am 16!!!!

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Mad_Mike · 25-04-2019 12:40AM

Actually did a bit of Googling as I wasn't 100% sure, but the N46 engine in the 318 uses the BMW CCV system to let the vapours out of the engine block.

Most cars just let this back in the inlet manifold with a simple PCV, but BMW's CCV tries to separate the oil from the vapour, and has the oil drain back into the pan, and often when the CCV gets clogged, it lets the vapours drain back into the oil too.

A quick Google will show that a badly clogged CCV can be full of yellow gunk where the oil and vapours mix, and it would explain both the cap and dipstick and appears to be very common on the E46

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Roycropper63 · 25-04-2019 03:52AM

Was reading in a classic car magazine briefly that quinton Wilson recently paid 3000 stg for a low mileage 01 mini...food food thought màybe?
Often wondered what they would be like but with grandchildren dog and wheelchair could never justify it...

California Dreamer · 25-04-2019 04:50AM

http://www.oreganmotors.ie/vehicles/mini/hatch/dublin/2202005

This one caught my eye. Although it is 7 owners.

iwillhtfu · 25-04-2019 07:44AM

Roycropper63 wrote: »

Was reading in a classic car magazine briefly that quinton Wilson recently paid 3000 stg for a low mileage 01 mini...food food thought màybe?
Often wondered what they would be like but with grandchildren dog and wheelchair could never justify it...

I almost bought a copper s recently for the school run once/twice a week as I normally drive a van figured it'd be a bit if craic for small enough money.

Drove out to look at one cash in hand lovely looking example and ticked all the boxes. Looked in the back and only 2 feckin seat belts :eek: ah bollox there goes that bit of fun :rolleyes:

Old diesel · 25-04-2019 08:20AM

Roycropper63 wrote: »

Was reading in a classic car magazine briefly that quinton Wilson recently paid 3000 stg for a low mileage 01 mini...food food thought màybe?
Often wondered what they would be like but with grandchildren dog and wheelchair could never justify it...

The really early 01s seem to have some OTT (imo) interest from some folk.

Seems to be a Rover* link to this interest as the MINI is seen by some enthusiast types as a car with heavy Rover involvement.

*all the hype I've seen re 2001 built/registered MINIs comes from Rover enthusiastso etc

flexcon · 25-04-2019 08:49AM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Actually did a bit of Googling as I wasn't 100% sure, but the N46 engine in the 318 uses the BMW CCV system to let the vapours out of the engine block.

Most cars just let this back in the inlet manifold with a simple PCV, but BMW's CCV tries to separate the oil from the vapour, and has the oil drain back into the pan, and often when the CCV gets clogged, it lets the vapours drain back into the oil too.

A quick Google will show that a badly clogged CCV can be full of yellow gunk where the oil and vapours mix, and it would explain both the cap and dipstick and appears to be very common on the E46

I had a thought it could be this but it was fairly sludgy. Car wasn’t over heating and no smell from air vents etc. A bit of oil at the back of the engine in the catchment area.

Problem
is if it is a head gasket it defeats the purpose of paying that price for that car. I’d have taken it otherwise as structurally it is an insane condition of that year.

Guess i got stung too many times before

Mad_Mike · 25-04-2019 11:32AM

flexcon wrote: »

I had a thought it could be this but it was fairly sludgy. Car wasn’t over heating and no smell from air vents etc. A bit of oil at the back of the engine in the catchment area.

Problem
is if it is a head gasket it defeats the purpose of paying that price for that car. I’d have taken it otherwise as structurally it is an insane condition of that year.

Guess i got stung too many times before

Exactly. It's probably better to be safe than sorry

Bahanaman · 25-04-2019 03:53PM

flexcon wrote:

Engine had plenty of Milk around the oil cap and and dip stick so i walked away. Such a Shame as the car itself is in great condition

Absolutely clueless about engine condition etc but like the whole bangernomics idea... What does "milk around the oil cap and dip stick" mean? Not good judging by your reaction to seeing it!

Bahanaman · 25-04-2019 03:53PM

flexcon wrote:

Engine had plenty of Milk around the oil cap and and dip stick so i walked away. Such a Shame as the car itself is in great condition

Absolutely clueless about engine condition etc but like the whole bangernomics idea... What does "milk around the oil cap and dip stick" mean? Not good judging by your reaction to seeing it!

punisher5112 · 25-04-2019 03:55PM

Bahanaman wrote: »

Absolutely clueless about engine condition etc but like the whole bangernomics idea... What does "milk around the oil cap and dip stick" mean? Not good judging by your reaction to seeing it!

Could be head gasket as in water and oil don't mix well.

Could well be short drives as I've seen this on say little fiesta with only tiny miles but on in the years.

Old diesel · 25-04-2019 04:07PM

Bahanaman wrote: »

flexcon wrote:

Engine had plenty of Milk around the oil cap and and dip stick so i walked away. Such a Shame as the car itself is in great condition

Absolutely clueless about engine condition etc but like the whole bangernomics idea... What does "milk around the oil cap and dip stick" mean? Not good judging by your reaction to seeing it!

It's seen as a sign of oil and water mixing - and a failed head gasket is often a cause.

A big problem because even if you are lucky and it's just the gasket - its fequently a big job.

Headgasket is often a result of other issues too.

For example - radiator has an issue - car overheats and the overheating causes the headgasket to fail.

Duke O Smiley · 25-04-2019 08:37PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a6-1-9tdi-silver/21601703?campaign=3

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I think I would be inclined to lose the alloys, but otherwise this looks very nice

130 bhp TDI, leather, sat nav, Bose sound and seemingly very well sorted altogether. Tax till June and test till August, €1200. A bangernomics favourite

Dravokivich · 25-04-2019 08:53PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Could be head gasket as in water and oil don't mix well.

Could well be short drives as I've seen this on say little fiesta with only tiny miles but on in the years.

Condensation can be an issue in e46 that doesn't get up to temp. I used to have one. And got rid of it due to high oil consumption issues. Even more than is generally reported in BMW forums as "acceptable."

Going by the condition the other guy is talking about, it shouldn't even be up for sale. That engine is a done for. Its selling point is on looks alone. Which is a shame becuase the dealer would know the condition it's in.

flexcon · 26-04-2019 10:24AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a3-1-6-nct-amp-tax-a-must-see-car/21664026

Just above the threshold.

Anyone with experience of these? Everything checks out, and the belt has been done. Just looking for something reliable at the weekends

bazz26 · 26-04-2019 10:33AM

That seems like mad money for a 13 year old petrol A3.

Ownership also only changed on April 15th and from the text of the advert is sounds like it's been sold by a part time dealer.

flexcon · 26-04-2019 10:39AM

bazz26 wrote: »

That seems like mad money for a 13 year old petrol A3.

Ownership also only changed on April 15th and from the text of the advert is sounds like it's been sold by a part time dealer.

Yeah it's a trade in car for them.

I don't mind that money, since its got 4 new tyres, just serviced and the belts done. It's sorta ticked the important boxes to me.

I will never go back to the heart breaking diesels again!

terrydel · 26-04-2019 10:46AM

flexcon wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a3-1-6-nct-amp-tax-a-must-see-car/21664026

Just above the threshold.

Anyone with experience of these? Everything checks out, and the belt has been done. Just looking for something reliable at the weekends

Ive an 04 3 door one for 6.5 years. Same 1.6 petrol engine.
Its been a great car, I've looked after it pretty well.
They are in my opinion a very nice car inside for their age and class.
They are ok on fuel, not amazing but not awful either. 5 door might be worse as its heavier.
The dual climate control is a must in my view if you are buying one.
Thats very expensive all the same.
A grand would be a good price for it.

CharlieCroker · 26-04-2019 10:55AM

flexcon wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a3-1-6-nct-amp-tax-a-must-see-car/21664026

Just above the threshold.

Anyone with experience of these? Everything checks out, and the belt has been done. Just looking for something reliable at the weekends

Really annoys me when an ad says "top spec" and it's far from it. That one is about €750 overpriced and is bog standard SE

Duke O Smiley · 26-04-2019 11:03AM

I’ve never seen an Audi in that colour that wasn’t anything but total base spec.

flexcon · 26-04-2019 11:06AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I’ve never seen an Audi in that colour that wasn’t anything but total base spec.

You know I was sorta thinking that myself. And looking at the photos there doesn't even seem to be dials on the steering wheel and no aircon.

BonnieSituation · 26-04-2019 11:12AM

And an emoji in the headline.

Nope!

djan · 26-04-2019 11:12AM

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Really annoys me when an ad says "top spec" and it's far from it. That one is about €750 overpriced and is bog standard SE

The ad, with its numerous spelling mistakes and what not, just screams dodgy door salesman pitch...

punisher5112 · 26-04-2019 11:13AM

All the ticks means it must be right.... Right....

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