Leinster v Toulouse L'effort pour cinq contre The Drive for Five

irishbucsfan · 22-04-2019 03:59PM

Squatter wrote: »

It's my opinion, based on watching both teams regularly over the past number of years. You are completely free to agree or disagree with it as you prefer. Rest assured that I won't lose any sleep over which option you take.

I will add that, with all due respect to Peter O'Mahony, I regard Itoje and Liam Williams as probably the biggest cheats in European rugby.

That too - in case you're confused - is my opinion.

Ah OK, so nothing here at all, just vague platitudes. Insightful stuff. Probably all the dark arts and unseen work they're doing in the thick of battle.

Richie_Rich89 · 22-04-2019 03:59PM

pickarooney wrote: »

With all our 7s pretty much written off, who are we going to play there next season? What's up with VdF?

Connors and Peni

irishbucsfan · 22-04-2019 04:02PM

Yeah really looking forward to getting Will Connors back. A really terrible time to take such a rough injury but just having himself and Penney there should free up Deegan to play elsewhere. Certainly no lack of talent in the loose five for next season. I'd be far more worried about the backs during the world cup.

Faugheen · 22-04-2019 04:16PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Yeah really looking forward to getting Will Connors back. A really terrible time to take such a rough injury but just having himself and Penney there should free up Deegan to play elsewhere. Certainly no lack of talent in the loose five for next season. I'd be far more worried about the backs during the world cup.

Really?

JGP, HOS, Patterson;
R. Byrne, Frawley, H. Byrne
Tomane, ROL, C. O'Brien, J. O'Brien
Lowe, Daly, A. Byrne, Keenan, Kelly, (maybe) D. Kearney.

Plus whoever breaks out from the academy.

I think we'll be just fine. People forget that the other teams will be missing their best players as well.

Squidgy Black · 22-04-2019 04:34PM

Faugheen wrote: »

Really?

JGP, HOS, Patterson;
R. Byrne, Frawley, H. Byrne
Tomane, ROL, C. O'Brien, J. O'Brien
Lowe, Daly, A. Byrne, Keenan, Kelly, (maybe) D. Kearney.

Plus whoever breaks out from the academy.

I think we'll be just fine. People forget that the other teams will be missing their best players as well.

You forgot Ferg as well, hasn't been any indication of him retiring yet either.

irishbucsfan · 22-04-2019 04:34PM

Faugheen wrote: »

Really?

JGP, HOS, Patterson;
R. Byrne, Frawley, H. Byrne
Tomane, ROL, C. O'Brien, J. O'Brien
Lowe, Daly, A. Byrne, Keenan, Kelly, (maybe) D. Kearney.

Plus whoever breaks out from the academy.

I think we'll be just fine. People forget that the other teams will be missing their best players as well.

I'm not worried at all, I just think the quality of depth and experience isn't there when compared to our pack. If we lost a couple of those guys we could see a struggle. Hopefully the quality of the pack gives them an easier ride.

Other teams will lose players, we'll lose the most as usual.

Faugheen · 22-04-2019 05:42PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I'm not worried at all, I just think the quality of depth and experience isn't there when compared to our pack. If we lost a couple of those guys we could see a struggle. Hopefully the quality of the pack gives them an easier ride.

Other teams will lose players, we'll lose the most as usual.

9. JGP, 10. Byrne, 11. Lowe, 12. Tomane, 13. ROL, 14. A. Byrne, 15. Daly.

That's an excellent backline full of experience at Pro14 level, especially in a league whose sides will be depleted of their best players. We've also got Cian Kelleher coming back as well. Completely forgot about that.

Certainly none of our provincial rivals will be able to stand up to that? There's also the chance McGrath doesn't go to the World Cup which will give us a full compliment at 9.

Ardillaun · 22-04-2019 05:47PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

...should have went...

Yip this an Irish-based forum

(to be sure)

Come to North America and you’ll hear ‘have went’ all the time:

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/449476/is-have-went-gaining-common-currency-in-ame-and-bre

Richie_Rich89 · 22-04-2019 05:50PM

Faugheen wrote: »

9. JGP, 10. Byrne, 11. Lowe, 12. Tomane, 13. ROL, 14. A. Byrne, 15. Daly.

That's an excellent backline full of experience at Pro14 level, especially in a league whose sides will be depleted of their best players. We've also got Cian Kelleher coming back as well. Completely forgot about that.

Certainly none of our provincial rivals will be able to stand up to that? There's also the chance McGrath doesn't go to the World Cup which will give us a full compliment at 9.

Yes, Tomane at 12 ahead of Conor O'Brien.

:rolleyes:

Faugheen · 22-04-2019 05:58PM

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

Yes, Tomane at 12 ahead of Conor O'Brien.

:rolleyes:

He's a better player than Conor O'Brien, so yes.

Exclamation Marc · 22-04-2019 06:05PM

Faugheen wrote: »

He's a better player than Conor O'Brien, so yes.

Woah. Don't bring logic into your argument with Richie.

Tomane had a good game last time out so looking forward to seeing more of him before the season is out.

Richie_Rich89 · 22-04-2019 06:10PM

Faugheen wrote: »

He's a better player than Conor O'Brien, so yes.

He's not a better 12 on the evidence of this season. Also, O'Brien would have far more scope for improvement.

Faugheen · 22-04-2019 06:25PM

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

He's not a better 12 on the evidence of this season. Also, O'Brien would have far more scope for improvement.

And over the course of the last 7 years?

James Lowe wouldn't have got in an AIL side if you believed some of the tripe on here in the last couple of years.

He's had a bad injury and got better as each game comes. One try O'Brien scored against a ****e defence doesn't make him a better player than a 19-time capped Wallaby,

I know you don't like foreigners or even Irish lads with foreign names, but give it a f*cking rest. It's the same ****e every single time someone doesn't prefer your precious Conor O'Brien.

swiwi_ · 22-04-2019 06:31PM

Ardillaun wrote: »

Come to North America and you’ll hear ‘have went’ all the time:

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/449476/is-have-went-gaining-common-currency-in-ame-and-bre

Better still, come to NZ and hear that he done good.

I wasn’t mocking by the way, just that expression “have went” is pretty Irish just like others such as I’m after doing something.

Richie_Rich89 · 22-04-2019 10:47PM

Faugheen wrote: »

And over the course of the last 7 years?

James Lowe wouldn't have got in an AIL side if you believed some of the tripe on here in the last couple of years.

He's had a bad injury and got better as each game comes. One try O'Brien scored against a ****e defence doesn't make him a better player than a 19-time capped Wallaby,

I know you don't like foreigners or even Irish lads with foreign names, but give it a f*cking rest. It's the same ****e every single time someone doesn't prefer your precious Conor O'Brien.

The Lowe criticism was from one person, and, frankly, you'd have to question the rugby knowledge of someone who held those views.

Does 17 caps for Aus count for much when they were on the wing and we're talking about his merits as an inside centre? David Kearney has 17 caps on the wing for Ireland. Would you select him ahead of O'Brien at 12 based on that?

It's not all about who has more caps at a higher level. Fergus McFadden has played a good few times in the centre at European Cup level for Leinster, and has international caps as a centre. I certainly wouldn't have him ahead of O'Brien in the centre.

And saying it's based on one try is a complete straw man. O'Brien's shown a huge amount more than that one try.

stephen_n · 23-04-2019 08:04AM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

You forgot Ferg as well, hasn't been any indication of him retiring yet either.

And Kelliher, don’t forget what’s his name.

arsebiscuits1 · 23-04-2019 02:26PM

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

It was a shocking pass under relatively minimal pressure out of Henshaw for the Lowe non try. Looked forward to me, so the try would probably have been chalked off anyway.

I thought Henshaw looked sharp overall, but contrast his execution of the basics with some of the on-the-money passes Nonu has been throwing in SR lately.

Never thought I'd see the day Richie, but I actually agree with you.

Robbies final pass was outrageously forward for Lowe and if the blocked wasn't called, the pass would have been.

The second point however is a bit much. Henshaws skills and distribution is absolutely top notch

Squatter · 23-04-2019 04:21PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ah OK, so nothing here at all, just vague platitudes. Insightful stuff. Probably all the dark arts and unseen work they're doing in the thick of battle.

Count your blessings that I haven't been asked for my opinion on the stupidest poster on this thread.

Burkie1203 · 23-04-2019 04:31PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ah OK, so nothing here at all, just vague platitudes. Insightful stuff. Probably all the dark arts and unseen work they're doing in the thick of battle.

Looks like Fardy got McCaws cloak of invisibility when McCaw retired.

https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1120622044587208704?s=19

https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1120584298606804993?s=19

dregin · 23-04-2019 04:37PM

awec wrote: »

So, on a more serious point, what's the craic with the Guinness being replaced by Murphys?

Who signed off on that?

Heineken own Murphys... or is it the same distributor? There's definitely a tight relationship between the two, anyway. TBH, I thought it was FAR better than the Guinness they usually serve there.

thomond2006 · 23-04-2019 04:39PM

Stout is ****e.

molloyjh · 23-04-2019 04:55PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ah OK, so nothing here at all, just vague platitudes. Insightful stuff. Probably all the dark arts and unseen work they're doing in the thick of battle.

Looks like Fardy got McCaws cloak of invisibility when McCaw retired.

https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1120622044587208704?s=19

https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1120584298606804993?s=19

Dont think he did anything of note in the first clip. The second one though was pure class divilment.

molloyjh · 23-04-2019 04:55PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Stout is ****e.

Heathen!

Burkie1203 · 23-04-2019 05:14PM

molloyjh wrote: »

Dont think he did anything of note in the first clip. The second one though was pure class divilment.

He just pushes down on the arm/shoulder of the Toulouse player on the wrong side just enough to hinder him getting up while blocking him from exiting towards the touchline. He placed himself very carefully there.

Riskymove · 23-04-2019 05:23PM

dregin wrote: »

Heineken own Murphys... or is it the same distributor? .

yep

famously all the Guinness sponsorship boards had to be covered by Heineken ones in Lansdowne road previously. Didn't notice if same was done this time

salmocab · 23-04-2019 05:52PM

Riskymove wrote: »

yep

famously all the Guinness sponsorship boards had to be covered by Heineken ones in Lansdowne road previously. Didn't notice if same was done this time

I have it in my head that when it was the H cup even the RDS could only do Heineken brand stuff in the group games. Could be wrong there though.

joseywhales · 23-04-2019 06:05PM

Does all the piss not come from the same masters?

Hippo · 23-04-2019 06:20PM

No problem with Fardy doing what he does - I don't think Richie Grey did a single legal thing on Saturday!

irishbucsfan · 23-04-2019 06:29PM

Squatter wrote: »

Count your blessings that I haven't been asked for my opinion on the stupidest poster on this thread.

Why, who is that?

irishbucsfan · 23-04-2019 06:31PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Looks like Fardy got McCaws cloak of invisibility when McCaw retired.

https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1120622044587208704?s=19

https://twitter.com/CharlieFelix/status/1120584298606804993?s=19

I’d say he probably just found Nathan Hines’ in one of the storage rooms!

Leinster v Toulouse L'effort pour cinq contre The Drive for Five

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