35000 for falling in your own yard

Pinch Flat · 11-04-2019 09:27AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

If you failed to fix an issue with your property after being told about it and someone subsequently hurt themselves because of your negligence, would you take any responsibility?

Guess it's all down to mindset. Had a conversation with a council tenant few years ago who was moaning about the lack of window restrictors on the upstairs windows and how it was putting her children at risk, and that she's been on to the council for months to sort it out. So she was happy for her and her husband to put her child needlessly at risk for the want of a few bob on a restrictor that could be bought in B&Q and fitted

Me personally, if it involved my own child's safety and welfare, I would take personal responsibility to sort these things out. But sure if there's a pot of gold there, maybe there's another motive I'm missing?

Guy:Incognito · 11-04-2019 09:46AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Absolving property owners of all responsibility I see. That'd end well. "Never mind that live wire hanging down there, just keep away from it, it'll be grand".

Whereas " keep playing near that live wire as if it didnt exist, if you get a shock before the owners fix it sure we'll get money" is grand?

Guy:Incognito · 11-04-2019 09:51AM

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Pensioners have paid their dues to society and deserve every social help they get.
Unlike the won't work and entitled brigade

People who never worked in their lives become pensioners too.

Edit. Beaten to it

CrankyHaus · 11-04-2019 09:52AM

Councils have limited resources. I sympathise with the child in the case and without seeing better photographs and measurements of the hole its impossible to say if they were right or not. However in general I'd rather Council resources went to providing more housing to help end the housing crisis than making the current housing stock 100% litigation proof.

sbsquarepants · 11-04-2019 10:15AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Absolving property owners of all responsibility I see. That'd end well. "Never mind that live wire hanging down there, just keep away from it, it'll be grand".

And yet, you seem perfectly ok with absolving parents of all responsibility.

If you ever do find yourself in the position of having a live wire hanging down, probably be best to keep the kids away until it's sorted do you not think?

Or does the fact that someone else owns the wire mean it's fine to just let little johnny play with it. Sure it's not your concern now is it, it's not like it's your wire!

weldoninhio · 11-04-2019 10:23AM

mikemac2 wrote: »

The council were aware of the issue before it happened. It makes a big difference

So the mother knew the back garden was unsafe, had complained that it was unsafe, and yet still let her child play in the unsafe garden??

tabby aspreme · 11-04-2019 10:25AM

The Collins families, from Avila Park, have had mixed luck on the litigation merry-go-round. Very unlucky to be so accident prone .

Samuel Vimes · 11-04-2019 10:28AM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

The Collins families, from Avila Park, have had mixed luck on the litigation merry-go-round. Very unlucky to be so accident prone .

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/six-personal-injury-claims-totalling-360k-thrown-out-by-judge-37167224.html

is_that_so · 11-04-2019 10:37AM

mikemac2 wrote: »

The council were aware of the issue before it happened. It makes a big difference

It does but the common sense in me says cover it up until the lazy council get round to it. What is disturbing about these cases is the number of defendants who will just settle up. It does give the impression that some are a very soft touch and can be encouraged to pick a decent sized number, which judges will of course give the nod to.

Meanwhile

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/insurance-fraud-crisis-is-costing-jobs-says-top-judge-38003997.html

Edgware · 11-04-2019 10:48AM

Samuel Vimes wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/six-personal-injury-claims-totalling-360k-thrown-out-by-judge-37167224.html

Some families have it tough

washman3 · 11-04-2019 11:05AM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

Will she use the 35,000 as a deposit to buy her own house?

She might spend it on something like new windows and doors for the existing house or maybe upgrade her boiler and insulation for the winter.
Maybe a new couch for the sitting room and some carpet for the kiddies rooms.

Oh wait, the council should be doing all this as they own the house....!!

cena · 11-04-2019 11:13AM

I don't even get that much after me accident. Even after losing 20% of my hand.

Berserker · 11-04-2019 11:39AM

Not going to start a new thread for another one of these, so here we go. €27K for a fall that happened ten years ago.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/27500-for-boy-left-scarred-after-cutting-head-at-crche-10-years-ago-38004038.html

PinotNero · 11-04-2019 12:01PM

Samuel Vimes wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/six-personal-injury-claims-totalling-360k-thrown-out-by-judge-37167224.html

Great find. Absolute chancers.

von Smallhausen · 11-04-2019 12:33PM

Oh look, another one!!
This fella is currently in prison for 6 years....

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/criminal-gets-payout-of-20000-over-crash-38004044.html?fbclid=IwAR1hZcWwVxtR1gM7TWx5nUS_lbPBdyjpa1-eI5zIJLioX9lj_qyBNC1hriU

Deebles McBeebles · 11-04-2019 12:52PM

Danny_B wrote: »

Oh look, another one!!
This fella is currently in prison for 6 years....

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/criminal-gets-payout-of-20000-over-crash-38004044.html?fbclid=IwAR1hZcWwVxtR1gM7TWx5nUS_lbPBdyjpa1-eI5zIJLioX9lj_qyBNC1hriU

20k buys an awful lot of heroin.

DavyD_83 · 11-04-2019 01:00PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Now I did ordinary level maths in my leaving but how is that possible

Even if she turned 15 the day after and it’s just over 18 months she cannot be 17

Come on Indo

This, for me anyway, of by far the most distressing part of the article. I'll be annoyed and distracted by this all day.:mad:

von Smallhausen · 11-04-2019 01:02PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

20k buys an awful lot of heroin.

Then we wonder why our insurance premiums and taxes are skyrocketing.
Someone has to pay for these mongoloidian troglodytes.

0ph0rce0 · 11-04-2019 01:28PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Legally you'd be in breach of the tenancy agreement. Are you suggesting tenants should breach their tenancy terms and conditions?

Up outta that, Go into any council house, you'll see standard kitchens ripped out and replaced, bathrooms ripped out and replaced, old windows ripped out and replaced, walls knocked out for patio doors. No one abides by that bollocks cause you won't be thrown out.

You really think any mod done to a council house people ring and ask first, do they ****.

Fill the hole yourself , Useless *****.

Effects · 11-04-2019 01:30PM

cena wrote: »

I don't even get that much after me accident. Even after losing 20% of my hand.

You need a better solicitor.

davo2001 · 11-04-2019 01:33PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

The council were aware of the issue before it happened. It makes a big difference

So the girl and family were aware of it also.

kildare lad · 11-04-2019 01:34PM

They were talking about it again on newstalk earlier. Ireland's payouts are 5 times higher than England's, we make 10 times the amount of personal injuries claims as they do . On the continent, claims that involve no breaks or stitches ,are known as paracetamol claims i.e a week or 2 of rest and your fine . They get next to nothing for them. Over hear 15,000 minimum.

There was a publican on, he'd been to court 20 times in 30 years over personal injuries and never won a case , he made a good case by saying that your not allowed to have 1 pint and drive because it'll affect your judgement , and yet someone can drink 5 or 6 pints, fall over and claim against you. It's ridiculous .

A woman was on , she had a kids birthday at her house , a neighbour's kid fell and sprained her ankle and the child's mother sued her, even though they did the school run for the child that got her ankle sprained

Another woman was on, she had a few neighbours around for drinks one night, on leaving the house, a neighbour trip on the way out , broke her wrist and sued her as well.

Compo culture has gone way overboard now and it's starting to affect business's and us with higher and higher premiums every year .

Cienciano · 11-04-2019 01:49PM

Edgware wrote: »

It is just another sign of how fed up ordinary hard working people are with all the scampers, dossiers and Scrotes who are leeching the system.
Casey for Europe.

There's a group of people out there and when their child falls they're like a Daffy Duck cartoon, dollar signs ring up in their eyes to the sound of a cash register.
And €35k is a joke, maybe about €500 would cover it.

Effects · 11-04-2019 01:57PM

kildare lad wrote: »

There was a publican on, he'd been to court 20 times in 30 years over personal injuries and never won a case , he made a good case by saying that your not allowed to have 1 pint and drive because it'll affect your judgement , and yet someone can drink 5 or 6 pints, fall over and claim against you.

Is part of that issue that he shouldn't be serving someone 5/6 pints so they get to that level of drunkenness?

11-04-2019 01:58PM

judeboy101 wrote: »

Groarkey again, quicker we elect our judges the better.

Because this kind of thing doesn't happen in places where judges are elected, like the USA?

Or because you're so pleased with how our elections work in choosing politicians?

suicide_circus · 11-04-2019 01:58PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

Will she use the 35,000 as a deposit to buy her own house?

facehugger99 · 11-04-2019 02:04PM

kildare lad wrote: »

Compo culture has gone way overboard now and it's starting to affect business's and us with higher and higher premiums every year .

The Legal profession are making for too much money from the current situation for it ever to change in any meaningful way.

Eggs For Dinner · 11-04-2019 02:04PM

kildare lad wrote: »

They were talking about it again on newstalk earlier. Ireland's payouts are 5 times higher than England's, we make 10 times the amount of personal injuries claims as they do .

.

Yet we want the same level of premiums here that the likes of Zurich, Aviva, AXA, Royal Sunalliance etc charge their customers in those countries

janfebmar · 11-04-2019 02:05PM

kildare lad wrote: »

They were talking about it again on newstalk earlier. Ireland's payouts are 5 times higher than England's, we make 10 times the amount of personal injuries claims as they do . On the continent, claims that involve no breaks or stitches ,are known as paracetamol claims i.e a week or 2 of rest and your fine . They get next to nothing for them. Over hear 15,000 minimum.

There was a publican on, he'd been to court 20 times in 30 years over personal injuries and never won a case , he made a good case by saying that your not allowed to have 1 pint and drive because it'll affect your judgement , and yet someone can drink 5 or 6 pints, fall over and claim against you. It's ridiculous .

A woman was on , she had a kids birthday at her house , a neighbour's kid fell and sprained her ankle and the child's mother sued her, even though they did the school run for the child that got her ankle sprained

Another woman was on, she had a few neighbours around for drinks one night, on leaving the house, a neighbour trip on the way out , broke her wrist and sued her as well.

Compo culture has gone way overboard now and it's starting to affect business's and us with higher and higher premiums every year .

It is a sign we are unfit to govern ourselves.

LirW · 11-04-2019 03:01PM

Just ignoring for a second that the payout is high and that compo culture is a thing but I know first hand that some councils are incredibly negligent and dismissive over issues at their properties.
I live in a council estate (I'm not a council tenant) and getting them to get their land maintained is next to impossible. All the units living here have decided to privately pay someone to do it instead, otherwise it would be an absolute mess.
People get fobbed off with rising damp issues in their council properties. Complaints of rodents in the house of a tenant that's a hoarder get ignored until the direct neighbour has them in their own house too.
If you've never dealt with it you can't imagine how frustrating it is to constantly hound them yet nothing happens.

Not saying it justifies the payout but maybe lazy councils finally get the message.

35000 for falling in your own yard

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