Al Porter Scandal

08-04-2019 08:25PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

If he is so concerned about helping people why doesnt he try to work in the area of social care?

Do you really think a career in social care would be suitable for a person accused of groping people without their consent?

No, I don't. But if that's what interests him there's nothing stopping him trying. The point was that all his talk about mental health is just his new angle to access the media.

The Talking Bread · 08-04-2019 08:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

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Perhaps you should go outside..

I think that is a fair response!

Ursus Horribilis · 08-04-2019 08:53PM

mistersifter wrote: »

No, I don't. But if that's what interests him there's nothing stopping him trying. The point was that all his talk about mental health is just his new angle to access the media.

I believe him when he says he has had mental health issues. But I would rather see him come clean. It reminds me of that ISIS bride one out in Syria who decided to announce she had been brainwashed, weeks after she'd said she wasn't bothered by seeing a severed head in a bin.

The difference between Al and another comedian telling smutty jokes is that we know he's not a naughty schoolboy. He now has question marks over his reputation and behaviour. Those jokes aren't so funny when that happens.

eviltwin · 08-04-2019 09:32PM

In all of this I can't help but feel Al feels he's done nothing wrong, probably inflated by his idiot supporters who won't address the issue because Al is an entertainer they admire

I'd have respected him if he had his mea culpa moment and genuinely sought help. His drip feeding of poor me vibes on Twitter and FB might fool the uneducated idiots who think he's great no matter what but he's fooling no one else.

Al, if you are around, take these posts as constructive and dont think everyone is out to get you because you're gay/working class etc. Sort yourself out lad.

08-04-2019 09:45PM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I believe him when he says he has had mental health issues

Maybe he did. Many people suffer with anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts etc., to various degrees. It's extremely common. If he does I wish him a recovery from it.

However, I think he's exaggerating or trying to capitalize on the mental health thing in order to get back on tv and get sympathy.

RocketRaccoon · 08-04-2019 09:45PM

eviltwin wrote: »

In all of this I can't help but feel Al feels he's done nothing wrong, probably inflated by his idiot supporters who won't address the issue because Al is an entertainer they admire

I'd have respected him if he had his mea culpa moment and genuinely sought help. His drip feeding of poor me vibes on Twitter and FB might fool the uneducated idiots who think he's great no matter what but he's fooling no one else.

Al, if you are around, take these posts as constructive and dont think everyone is out to get you because you're gay/working class etc. Sort yourself out lad.

Nobody cares that he's gay.

People care that he's a scumbag who sexually assaulted men, refuses to take any blame or accountability for his actions and tries to play the victim card all the time.

His career is thankfully over and anyone supporting him should give their head a serious wobble and find a new hero to look up to.

irishproduce · 08-04-2019 09:54PM

I'll tell you what. He cost tv3 a lot of money last year when they invested in their show that was to be presented by him and had to be dumped then.
Other media outfits would be averse to going near him. Could cost a fortune.
Didn't he work in a call centre before? Maybe he could go back to that for a while.

donkeykong5 · 08-04-2019 09:59PM

Hes already been replaced on tv3 by coach kavanagh's brother.

Ursus Horribilis · 08-04-2019 09:59PM

mistersifter wrote: »

Maybe he did. Many people suffer with anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts etc., to various degrees. It's extremely common. If he does I wish him a recovery from it.

However, I think he's exaggerating or trying to capitalize on the mental health thing in order to get back on tv and get sympathy.

I agree. There was something inevitable about him coming out with a story like this. He has lost a lot because of this scandal. He's unlikely to get his career back onto the trajectory it was on before this all came out. I'm sure for someone like him, who doesn't seem to have other strings to his bow, what he'll do in the future has got to be a concern.

However, as I've said already, the way he has handled this has been appalling. I'd love to know who's advising him and if he's listening to them. He can tell all the sorry stories he wants to. People are still going to remember him as a sex pest.

08-04-2019 10:18PM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I agree. There was something inevitable about him coming out with a story like this. He has lost a lot because of this scandal. He's unlikely to get his career back onto the trajectory it was on before this all came out. I'm sure for someone like him, who doesn't seem to have other strings to his bow, what he'll do in the future has got to be a concern.

However, as I've said already, the way he has handled this has been appalling. I'd love to know who's advising him and if he's listening to them. He can tell all the sorry stories he wants to. People are still going to remember him as a sex pest.

when i hear him going on about his mental issues I cant help but think of the current trend for self-help gurus - the likes of Russell BRand, a comedian who turned to acting, made a few **** films, had some high profile break up, and has since taken to vlogging pseudointellectual ****e about mental health.

It seems to be the go-to thing when you've **** all else to offer. Bressie another prime example. Once the poor sod realized he was a ****e musician, he suddenly became the leading expert on anxiety.

They have to stay relevant somehow.

retalivity · 08-04-2019 10:25PM

This is what, his third attempt at flying a kite to see what the lay of the land his?

He's already given an interview and the chat show thing with his non-apology apology. Was still receiving a bad reception so again laid low for a while.
Then after a few months, he resurfaces at a quiz in the george and is "egged on" to go on stage and do a smutty routine. Again, negative press all around after that one.

Now round 3, another interview but with added woe is me and suicidal thoughts. Still not getting the reception he expects so lashes out, then ultimately deletes the post altogether when the expected support still doesnt manifest itself.

3 strikes man, just give it up and go away.

donkeykong5 · 08-04-2019 10:29PM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

mistersifter wrote: »

Maybe he did. Many people suffer with anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts etc., to various degrees. It's extremely common. If he does I wish him a recovery from it.

However, I think he's exaggerating or trying to capitalize on the mental health thing in order to get back on tv and get sympathy.

I agree. There was something inevitable about him coming out with a story like this. He has lost a lot because of this scandal. He's unlikely to get his career back onto the trajectory it was on before this all came out. I'm sure for someone like him, who doesn't seem to have other strings to his bow, what he'll do in the future has got to be a concern.

However, as I've said already, the way he has handled this has been appalling. I'd love to know who's advising him and if he's listening to them. He can tell all the sorry stories he wants to. People are still going to remember him as a sex pest.

Stuart o connor. Owner of spotlight stage school who takes over late late toy show every year and runs the Olympia theatre panto is his manager and pr consultant as far as I know.

Ursus Horribilis · 08-04-2019 10:38PM

If I'm ever in need of a PR Consultant, I know who not to hire.

poisonated · 09-04-2019 12:28AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

He was trying to make the boards posts out to be very hurtful and evil but in reality the posts were very fair and balanced.

Some said something along the lines of that he should kill himself. I’m not a fan of his but I would not say that is very fair or balanced.

Beechwoodspark · 09-04-2019 08:24AM

Just on his appearance at the George last year, I was told by someone actually there on the night that the crowd reacted angrily when he tried to launch into his routine -booing, heckles-

so he cut it short and then the line spun to the papers was that it was just “spontaneous” and by chance that he was up on the stage.

The Talking Bread · 09-04-2019 09:30AM

mistersifter wrote: »

Maybe he did. Many people suffer with anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts etc., to various degrees. It's extremely common. If he does I wish him a recovery from it.

However, I think he's exaggerating or trying to capitalize on the mental health thing in order to get back on tv and get sympathy.

It's fairly natural that he would be mentally troubled after such a fall from grace, but if we play the over empathy card to every perpetrator of a crime just because their life has been negatively affected by revelations then sure we'd be obliged to feel sympathy to every wrong doer.

The question here is, and it is a subjective question is whether the time fits the crime.

Al appears to think it doesn't and feels he is hard done by and he is the biggest victim here. That's one of the main concerns.

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RabbleRouser2k · 09-04-2019 10:57AM

retalivity wrote: »

This is what, his third attempt at flying a kite to see what the lay of the land his?

He's already given an interview and the chat show thing with his non-apology apology. Was still receiving a bad reception so again laid low for a while.
Then after a few months, he resurfaces at a quiz in the george and is "egged on" to go on stage and do a smutty routine. Again, negative press all around after that one.

Now round 3, another interview but with added woe is me and suicidal thoughts. Still not getting the reception he expects so lashes out, then ultimately deletes the post altogether when the expected support still doesnt manifest itself.

3 strikes man, just give it up and go away.

Well, he did give an interview, to the Sun, but no chatshow-he laid low, released a tweet and cut all events he was meant to take part in.
He thought he could lay low and make a return (similar has been attempted overseas-Max Landis, for example, never left Twitter. Then allegations are made against him, he disappears for a year. He never returns to twitter, but after a year tries to return to Instagram. More allegations, and he leaves insta).

So sodded off, but played the suicide card after a year or so. When he tried his first attempt at a return, Oliver Callan called him out and said these allegations need addressing, and David McSavage supported Al, but when he did so, incurred the wrath of Al's victims. (McSavage later withdrew his support after meeting those who Al had groped). Brendan O'Connor tried to drum up support for him, but, nope. Landed like a dud. (BOC is sorted since he married into RTE).
Rory Cowan tried the support thing, but he probably saw sense or was advised 'ehhhh-maybe you don't want to support a groper, eh?' so wasn't seen this time around.

So Al's support was mostly regular folks, many of whom are not 'in the biz'. But the industry moves forward, and RTE have enough folks who take over the 'gay camp fella' role.
Plus, he cost TV3 (now VM1) a s**t-load of money-Blind Date wasn't cheap, and I don't think they had the Virgin Media money behind em then. I'd say even Tara 'I talk about my abortion cos I'm funny as mud' Flynn won't support him either-mainly she lost a paying gig cos of him. Tho, lets be honest here, she probably knew about him-apparently it was fairly well known in the comedy circuit.

The Talking Bread wrote: »

It's fairly natural that he would be mentally troubled after such a fall from grace, but if we play the over empathy card to every perpetrator of a crime just because their life has been negatively affected by revelations then sure we'd be obliged to feel sympathy to every wrong doer.

The question here is, and it is a subjective question is whether the time fits the crime.

Al appears to think it doesn't and feels he is hard done by and he is the biggest victim here. That's one of the main concerns.

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If it was something like drink driving and losing your license, you could be redeemed from that-but not with a lot of work (Baz what-his-face could tell you that). But the difference is Baz drove drunk once (that we know of) and was caught-thus losing his license.
By his own admission he was stupid. But not violate someone's body stupid-and he even looks back on that now and realises the damage he could have caused.

Al's not shown that level of contrition. Far from it. If anything, he's shown how narcissitic and I would even go as far to say sociopathic he really is.
Like, he was alleged to be stealing jokes and not caring, as well as groping people.
He walked into the entertainment biz knowing it's fickle-one minute you're popular the next minute you're not. But some things you can't come back from-and groping, or having dealings with the Viper, is one of the many things your career is dead over.

_Brian · 09-04-2019 11:06AM

He’s in for a hard life.

He seems to have completely built his self worth on what people think of his public persona - but to most people (me included) that public persona is an insufferable nauseating prat.

His planned return to public “entertainment”, and I use that term loosely, shows that he has been waiting things out thinking he will be ok that people got over his previous problem rather than him having actually sorted out any of his own issues.

If he doesn’t get proper mental health support this will all end badly, and based just on the fact that he’s a human being that would be terrible.

Are we missing his “entertainment” skills and style, no we are not.

fryup · 09-04-2019 11:06AM

The question here is, and it is a subjective question is whether the time fits the crime.

Al appears to think it doesn't and feels he is hard done by and he is the biggest victim here. That's one of the main concerns.

Well he didn't rape anyone...lets get that straight ....he touched up someone inappropriately? he has since publicly apologised for his behaviour and acknowledged it was wrong...so does he really deserved to be blacklisted for life?? he's a young lad after all with a lot to learn in life..doesn't he deserve a second chance??

you know, i think this #MeToo movement is now turning into a one big witch-hunt

ohnonotgmail · 09-04-2019 11:19AM

fryup wrote: »

Well he didn't rape anyone...lets get that straight ....he touched up someone inappropriately? he has since publicly apologised for his behaviour and acknowledged it was wrong...so does he really deserved to be blacklisted for life?? he's a young lad after all with a lot to learn in life..doesn't he deserve a second chance??

you know, i think this #MeToo movement is now turning into a one big witch-hunt

None of his apologies have been remotely sincere or, indeed, actually been apologies.

gmisk · 09-04-2019 11:19AM

fryup wrote: »

Well he didn't rape anyone...lets get that straight ....he touched up someone inappropriately? he has since publicly apologised for his behaviour and acknowledged it was wrong...so does he really deserved to be blacklisted for life?? he's a young lad after all with a lot to learn in life..doesn't he deserve a second chance??

you know, i think this #MeToo movement is now turning into a one big witch-hunt

Has he really though?
I would say definitely not...he put out some BS statement about his actions being in keeping with his "flamboyant persona".

IMO he deserves everything he gets, it is not a witch hunt he did these things and they really are not acceptable.

ohnonotgmail · 09-04-2019 11:22AM

gmisk wrote: »

Has he really though?
I would say definitely not...he put out some BS statement about his actions being in keeping with his "flamboyant persona".

IMO he deserves everything he gets, it is not a witch hunt he did these things and they really are not acceptable.

I've known some really flamboyant gay guys that would make him look like a mormon (RIP Junior) and none of them grabbed my arse or crotch.

fryup · 09-04-2019 11:22AM

gmisk wrote: »

IMO he deserves everything he gets, it is not a witch hunt he did these things and they really are not acceptable.

well going by this thread..its not far off it

as i said before....he's a young lad, give him a break

Ursus Horribilis · 09-04-2019 11:31AM

fryup wrote: »

well going by this thread..its not far off it

as i said before....he's a young lad, give him a break

He's old enough to know better. And should have met the allegations head on, instead of trying to pass them off as his flamboyant personality. Nobody likes a creep.

09-04-2019 11:33AM

fryup wrote: »

well going by this thread..its not far off it

as i said before....he's a young lad, give him a break

what do you mean by give him a break though? Just accept him back on TV screens as a comedian or presenter?

Nobody is saying he should be forced to live on the streets. I don't think many people are really arsed about him one way or another until he starts trying to PR-stunt his way back onto RTE.

RocketRaccoon · 09-04-2019 11:40AM

mistersifter wrote: »

what do you mean by give him a break though? Just accept him back on TV screens as a comedian or presenter?

Nobody is saying he should be forced to live on the streets. I don't think many people are really arsed about him one way or another until he starts trying to PR-stunt his way back onto RTE.

Exactly. He's a nothing, a nobody. He needs to accept it and go about getting a regular job.

Bunny Colvin · 09-04-2019 11:46AM

fryup wrote: »

well going by this thread..its not far off it

as i said before....he's a young lad, give him a break

He's 26, most kids know that feeling people up is wrong. It's not like the guy had talent anyway, now he's just baggage for any broadcaster and they'd be taking a huge gamble hiring him. He's hasn't even properly addressed what he's done. He could easily do the same thing again and for that to happen would be completely on whoever was daft enough to hire him.

Looking at his Twitter feed, it's obvious he's angling for a return but I just can't see it. If he has any respect for himself and the people he's wronged, he'd walk away from it and accept that he ****ed his career and try to address his issues. Personally, I don't think there's any reason to see or hear from him again.

09-04-2019 11:56AM

And we know that he has been writing panto, so it's not as if he is going to be unemployed for the rest of his life. He is not deprived of opportunity.

I think it is fair enough not to be happy with him reviving his presenting/comedian career as it was originally predicated on the idea of him being a stereotypical sex-crazed gay man. He should accept that his ship has sailed there.

My own opinion of him is that he is a bully with a sense of entitlement. I don't want to say too much on boards but I'm aware of one awful situation he was involved in locally.

Overall I find the "poor me" act pretty hard to stomach. It would be fairly insulting to audiences if he was put back on his on-screen pedestal again but unfortunately I wouldnt put it past RTE to do this.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-04-2019 12:59PM

I think if he was honest enough to just come out, put the hand up and admit he ****ed up I think he go much farther.(rather then roundabout way he set to apologise)

Sadly for him, he seems to think it's just part of him, trying lay into others who question him?

salmocab · 09-04-2019 01:24PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I think if he was honest enough to just come out, put the hand up and admit he ****ed up I think he go much farther.(rather then roundabout way he set to apologise)

Sadly for him, he seems to think it's just part of him, trying lay into others who question him?

It’s a sense of entitlement that this country’s media bestow on people. Then people mistake column inches with talent. He attempted to position himself as an Alan Carr type character without seeing that someone like Carr was funny and likeable. The media love it for a while because he creates some click bait for them. It becomes symbiotic.

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