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Congrats to Becky Lynch and Finn Balor

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    #32
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Snotty wrote: »
    But they won because someone decided they would win, they won nothing on merit.

    The merit is being the one chosen to win

    It wasn't any of the 30 other women on the roster who won the title match, it was Becky

    Same for Finn, he was chosen out of dozens of others


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    #33
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    I don’t think normal people care too much about wrestling itself but when you have grown men trying to convince you it’s a sport it gets a bit much.

    Also the fact grown men still watching it is pretty sad too. We had a few guys, two from IT and the creepy guy from admin, take today off so they could watch it together last night. One of the managers couldn’t keep a straight face when he was telling us about it on a coffee break.

    So bloody what if they took time off for something they enjoy? Did it hurt anyone that they watched the wrestling together?

    I haven't watched it in years but to be sniggering like a pack of jackals behind their backs just because they watched WrestleMania together is a horrible thing to do in the workplace


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    #34
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    people slagging off WWE just don't get it.

    sure it's all show but the fitness and dedication involved for these folk and they are the elite considering how many wrestlers train and don't make it to the top.


    and she is decent too ….so STFU


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    #35
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    paw patrol wrote: »
    people slagging off WWE just don't get it.

    sure it's all show but the fitness and dedication involved for these folk and they are the elite considering how many wrestlers train and don't make it to the top.

    To be fair , the amount of them that dont seem to last long enough to get a bus pass would suggest they might have a bit of help being so fit and dedicated.


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    #36
    Snotty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    They were chosen by their bosses to win, they won it on merit.

    There isn't a load of real fights and then this was fake, they are all fake, they have never won anything on merit, they won it because they are told to. If its on merit, what did they do exactly to achieve this? Best listener to the boss??


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    #37
    Woke Hogan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    It wouldn't be for me personally and despite the fact that the bouts are clearly rigged, wrestling is probably a good bit better for someone to watch than the likes of those Marvel films or for the same person to spend all night playing a video game. Real people doing real stunts, it might even encourage a few of the viewers to pound a few pavements for themselves.


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    #38
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    I don’t think normal people care too much about wrestling itself but when you have grown men trying to convince you it’s a sport it gets a bit much.

    Also the fact grown men still watching it is pretty sad too. We had a few guys, two from IT and the creepy guy from admin, take today off so they could watch it together last night. One of the managers couldn’t keep a straight face when he was telling us about it on a coffee break.

    People have different interests. So what? The manager should cop on.

    That's backstabbing and breeds a toxic work environment and culture.


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    #39
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
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    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    It wasn't any of the 30 other women on the roster who won the title match, it was Becky

    And one of the others will get her turn next month.

    You're reading far too much into this.

    WWE is not a real sport. If it was, Rousey, who won an Olympic medal in judo and is a former UFC women's champion, would handily beat Lynch.


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    #40
    UsBus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    I remember the days when women's wrestling matches at big events were lingerie matches or mud baths...that ain't so long ago either Lol


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    #41
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,215 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'm sure people will always find reasons to rag on wrestling, and that's fine, it's not their jam.

    WWE is massive in America with turnovers some legit sports can only dream of.

    Becky Lynch is actually only the second European to ever main event a Wrestlemania which is a huge achievement in itself. Comparably shes also the first to win their match.

    On top of that after 35 years the women main evented Wrestlemania for the first time in the company's history, an astonishing feat if you consider that up to probably 4 years ago women were viewed as an afterthought or the sexy wet dream fantasies for the audience, and barely legitimate.

    It might be scripted, but considering that she was selected for that win ahead of everyone else, including her opponents:

    Ronda Rousey - a legit box office star in terms of combat sports. May have lost her last few fights but drew more money for the UFC than 90% of the men, ever.

    Charlotte Flair - Fantastically athletically gifted, and the daughter of Ric Flair, a living legend in the business with championship pedigree.

    It's a phenomenal achievement any way you split it.


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    #42
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Romina Thousands Fang wrote: »
    And one of the others will get her turn next month.

    You're reading far too much into this.

    WWE is not a real sport. If it was, Rousey, who won an Olympic medal in judo and is a former UFC women's champion, would handily beat Lynch.

    Not one person said it's a real sport, everyone has said the opposite actually, they are performers. Why do we congratulate actors or singers winning awards?


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    #43
    Conchir
    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Conchir


    I don't like wrestling myself, but I can appreciate that they put in massive amounts of work, and whether or not it's scripted, it's still hugely physical.

    Also, when it comes to people watching it and enjoying it: don't yuck someone else's yum. If you don't like it, fine, leave it to the people who do.


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    #44
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Snotty wrote: »
    There isn't a load of real fights and then this was fake, they are all fake, they have never won anything on merit, they won it because they are told to. If its on merit, what did they do exactly to achieve this? Best listener to the boss??

    See, the fact you even have to ask this shows you don't have a clue.


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    #45
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Romina Thousands Fang wrote: »
    And one of the others will get her turn next month.

    You're reading far too much into this.

    WWE is not a real sport. If it was, Rousey, who won an Olympic medal in judo and is a former UFC women's champion, would handily beat Lynch.

    You're right, it's not a real sport

    It's sports entertainment

    What pro wrestling is today got its original start as a circus act, and today it's much closer to a circus act today than a sport

    Who's here calling it a real sport? It's not real fighting, it's another form of theater

    You're getting hung up on why Becky was picked to win, same as in any medium where you know little to nothing about it there is a rhyme and reason to it


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    #46
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Romina Thousands Fang wrote: »
    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    It wasn't any of the 30 other women on the roster who won the title match, it was Becky

    And one of the others will get her turn next month.

    You're reading far too much into this.

    WWE is not a real sport. If it was, Rousey, who won an Olympic medal in judo and is a former UFC women's champion, would handily beat Lynch.
    You have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Becky lynch is getting audience reactions bigger than her male counterparts.

    Everyone knows wrestling is scripted. It still is a competition though.


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    #47
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,215 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Snotty wrote:
    There isn't a load of real fights and then this was fake, they are all fake, they have never won anything on merit, they won it because they are told to. If its on merit, what did they do exactly to achieve this? Best listener to the boss??

    Mainly through the fans actually, if you can 'get over' with the crowd you generally have a huge chance of making it as a top tier talent.

    Of course the bosses also have their favourites, which is natural given it's their company.

    Selling tonnes of merchandise helps too.

    Might be fake fighting but the athleticism in it is on a par with other legit sports.

    You take the best of gymnastics, combat sports, and mash them all together with a bit of soap opera drama and you get what is known as sports entertainment.

    It's fine not to like it. But people that do are generally as normal as those who choose to watch Game of Thrones, or Coronation Street, or other fictional shows.


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    #48
    Sono
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Sono


    It’s quite hilarious that there are adults on boards who watch WWE, if that wasn’t bad enough but discussing it on here weekly!

    Congrats to the Irish actors though!


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    #49
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    To be fair , the amount of them that dont seem to last long enough to get a bus pass would suggest they might have a bit of help being so fit and dedicated.

    I can accept that. There is something afoot with what happens them.
    After reading Bret Harts book (which is one of the best biographys I've read btw - a lot of it is insane) the steroids and pain killers coupled with a party-lifestyle seems (IMO) to blame.

    The newer stars seem more health conscious than those in the 1980s/1990s...Fellas like John Cena and HHH seem to look after themselves better.


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    #50
    upinsmoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭upinsmoke


    Sono wrote: »
    It’s quite hilarious that there are adults on boards who watch WWE, if that wasn’t bad enough but discussing it on here weekly!

    Congrats to the Irish actors though!

    No different to an adult watching Game of Thrones. Please explain the difference.


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    #51
    Sono
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Sono


    upinsmoke wrote: »
    No different to an adult watching Game of Thrones. Please explain the difference.

    One the target audience is kids and the other is for adults.

    I watched WWF(E) growing up but I couldn’t watch it now, each to their own I guess.


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    #52
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    upinsmoke wrote: »
    No different to an adult watching Game of Thrones. Please explain the difference.

    The difference is that people don't come on here congratulating The Mountain for his immense achievement in beating Oberyn Martell.


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    #53
    kerplun k
    Registered Users Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Sono wrote: »
    It’s quite hilarious that there are adults on boards who watch WWE, if that wasn’t bad enough but discussing it on here weekly!

    Congrats to the Irish actors though!

    It’s equally hilarious that a grown ass adult supports Aston Villa and spends their free time on boards talking sh1te about a second rate championship club.

    Not a fan of wrestling either, but it’s very easy to ****e all over someone else’s interests.


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    #54
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Romina Thousands Fang wrote: »
    The difference is that people don't come on here congratulating The Mountain for his immense achievement in beating Oberyn Martell.

    They get awards for their performances.


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    #55
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Romina Thousands Fang wrote: »
    upinsmoke wrote: »
    No different to an adult watching Game of Thrones. Please explain the difference.

    The difference is that people don't come on here congratulating The Mountain for his immense achievement in beating Oberyn Martell.
    People are congratulating her on getting to the top of her business.


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    #56
    upinsmoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭upinsmoke


    Sono wrote: »
    One the target audience is kids and the other is for adults.

    I watched WWF(E) growing up but I couldn’t watch it now, each to their own I guess.

    Its target audience is not just kids, its all ages.


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    #57
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    upinsmoke wrote: »
    Its target audience is not just kids, its all ages.

    Didn't you know it was 80k kids there last night? No adults at all.


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    #58
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    What's the story with wrestling? I mean we all know it's acting/fake so how do they actually determine a winners as presumably the winner is determined well in advance....


    Any way thanks for that update, but now it's over to Diarmud with the weather......


    Vince McMahon decides. He still has massive input on storylines and winners. And while it is all fake, it still takes a hell of a lot of athleticisim to be at the top.


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    #59
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,215 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Romina Thousands Fang wrote:
    The difference is that people don't come on here congratulating The Mountain for his immense achievement in beating Oberyn Martell.

    That's funny I could have sworn I saw a Game of Thrones forum on Boards that is also quite active....


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    #60
    Sono
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Sono


    kerplun k wrote: »
    It’s equally hilarious that a grown ass adult supports Aston Villa and spends their free time on boards talking sh1te about a second rate championship club.

    Not a fan of wrestling either, but it’s very easy to ****e all over someone else’s interests.

    That’s funny you went into my profile to see what I post about, it’s quite enjoyable following them at the moment for the first time in a while, might even get promoted, seems I hit a nerve!


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    #61
    kerplun k
    Registered Users Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Sono wrote: »
    That’s funny you went into my profile to see what I post about, it’s quite enjoyable following them at the moment for the first time in a while, might even get promoted, seems I hit a nerve!

    I did. Couldn’t resist having a quick looksy. :D


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