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Drew Harris armoured jeep flung into the air at Garda HQ

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  • #32
    McMurphy
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    Bizarre

    Maybe he just wanted a chat with some old mates

    I'm imagining a scene where Harris is simply showing off to his old colleagues, "c'mon back till my place lads, wait to you see the size of this new office that they gave me, and I'll show you all of the shiny equipment the lads down here get to play with".

    Unsure exactly how serious this could be for Harris, but he's a lot of explaining to do.


  • #33
    Necro
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    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Had a bit of a chuckle this morning when I read the headline and imagined the scene.

    Bomb-proof jeep carrying Garda Commissioner Drew Harris flips over at Garda HQ in Dublin




    Now fair play to the quick thinking Garda on sentinel duty, because in fairness that unmarked armourplated jeep containing armed men could have been from groups wishing to carryout atrocities against our states police HQ.

    This had the potential to have ended a lot worse than it did, and no one could have blamed the same Garda if they'd have opened fire and maimed or killed someone inside the jeep.

    But WTF are armed PSNI officers doing 100 miles over the border, well in to our capital city city, and is this acceptable that they were?

    Did the Guards not know that an armed PSNI were escorting their commissioner to their HQ? Or did they know and neglect to inform certain members who probably should have known to prevent any misunderstandings?

    Raises lots of questions imo.

    Garda was probably a Wolfe Tones fan tbh.



  • #34
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    Harris was very irresponsible for this but one can assume that if he chose to continue on from the border with his PSNI escort there was either A) no Garda car to meet him or B) if there was they also did not notify HQ that they had not collected him.

    There obviously was a car available, as the report said they were escorted by the ARU.


  • #35
    kneemos
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    Vincenzo Hollow Sweater wrote: »
    There obviously was a car available, as the report said they were escorted by the ARU.


    The ARU chasing an unmarked Jeep into HQ?


  • #36
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Pretty stupid move from the commissioner. He’s bringing an armed force into the Republic not necessarily licensed to arm themselves here just because he didn’t want to change cars?

    I can imagine him in the car thinking - what’s the worst that can happen. Well it did.


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  • #37
    EmmetSpiceland
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    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Unsure exactly how serious this could be for Harris, but he's a lot of explaining to do.

    It sounds like you want this to be more than it is.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #38
    Farawayhome
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Betcha it's on the one PM News.

    Let's see.

    Four minutes now.

    Any update on this?


  • #39
    McMurphy
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    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Unmarked jeep / unarmed plainclothes PSNI members, with ERU escorting would be my guess.

    From the article.
    Ireland’s top cop would normally be picked up at the border by a Garda Emergency Response Unit but on this occasion armed PSNI officers brought him all the way to Dublin.
    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    It sounds like you want this to be more than it is.

    It sounds like I would like whatever the fcuk kind of a serious screw up happened here is explained to us, in an honest and transparent manner, and those responsible take s
    Ownership of it.

    Lord knows the Guards have been under some serious investigations of late, so let's see if Harris is going to buck the trend.

    I hope I have laid out my stall plainly enough for you Emmet, but should you have any further questions or misunderstandings, please feel free to send them on to me, either on thread or by pm if you so choose to.


  • #40
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Question, would it not be better that the barriers be up all the time and lowered when needed, exactly the same as at the Daìl.

    No, its the main vehicular entrance with substantial volumes of traffic throughout the day.


  • #41
    Yamanoto
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    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    From the article.

    Same articles headline says jeep flipped over, witness quoted within says 'it nearly turned over'.

    All speculation at this stage.


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  • #42
    kneemos
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    Farawayhome wrote: »
    Any update on this?

    Nothing on the telly anyway.


  • #43
    punisher5112
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    Dale Doback wrote: »
    No, its the main vehicular entrance with substantial volumes of traffic throughout the day.

    And!

    What's the issue with having to stop to prove who you are.

    They do so at the Daìl.

    Who picks up the tab on this?

    Armoured vehicles are in no way cheap.

    Would a helicopter not be a much better use of resources as taking a number of vehicles off the road to escort etc...


  • #44
    Atlantic Dawn
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    GDY151


    Farawayhome wrote: »
    Any update on this?


    Likely it will be featured just after the 9pm news goes out so they don't have to do a proper news story on it.


  • #45
    Ten of Swords
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    Dublin Live looks like the original article last night. The Mirror picked it up an hour later and Journal picked it up 15 minutes ago

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  • #46
    judeboy101
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Different bedclothes same mattress


  • #47
    HeidiHeidi
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    And!

    What's the issue with having to stop to prove who you are.

    They do so at the Daìl.

    Who picks up the tab on this?

    Armoured vehicles are in no way cheap.

    Would a helicopter not be a much better use of resources as taking a number of vehicles off the road to escort etc...

    Jaysus, I can only imagine the vapours that would be had in various quarters if he was seen to be travelling by chopper :eek:


  • #48
    punisher5112
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Jaysus, I can only imagine the vapours that would be had in various quarters if he was seen to be travelling by chopper :eek:

    Modern policing needs modern thinking...


  • #49
    JohnnyFlash
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    Dublin Live has about as much credibility as The Liberal or some chancer on twitter saying he saw something. I’d wait for something more substantial to appear in a slightly more serious and highbrow publication before doing the old judge,jury, and executioner.


  • #50
    punisher5112
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    Probably just a smudge on the bumper and the vehicle is fine....


  • #51
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    And!

    And what?
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    What's the issue with having to stop to prove who you are.

    You do stop and you are identified.
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    They do so at the Daìl.

    And?
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Who picks up the tab on this?

    I don't care.
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Armoured vehicles are in no way cheap.

    I know, I drive them.
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Would a helicopter not be a much better use of resources as taking a number of vehicles off the road to escort etc...

    No.

    There are more vehicles available than helicopters....so not a better use of resources.


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  • #52
    pure.conya
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    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    It sounds like you want this to be more than it is.

    it sounds like you don't have a clue how serious this was


  • #53
    sentient_6
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    He should be suspended pending an investigation.......


  • #54
    expectationlost
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    its a brilliant metaphor for his situation isn't it


  • #55
    Hurrache
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    Story seems very sketchy, looking like it may not even be true.


  • #56
    pablo128
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    And!

    What's the issue with having to stop to prove who you are.

    They do so at the Daìl.

    Who picks up the tab on this?

    Armoured vehicles are in no way cheap.

    Would a helicopter not be a much better use of resources as taking a number of vehicles off the road to escort etc...

    If it's a psni Jeep and their own fault they crashed, I would assume they pick up the bill.

    And it cost no more than 25-30 euro worth of diesel to drive down from Belfast. And you want him to use a helicopter because some donkey thought he was Billy big balls and thought he could drive into Garda headquarters unhindered at speed.


  • #57
    Edgware
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    Will he stick in a nice compo claim and blame the driver?


  • #58
    McMurphy
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Story seems very sketchy, looking like it may not even be true.

    What makes you say that, out of interest like?


  • #59
    Pintman Paddy Losty
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    Dale Doback wrote: »
    I know, I drive them.

    Haha, I'm sure you do lad!

    :rolleyes: Some awful Walter mitty types on this site.


  • #60
    Del2005
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    Dial Hard wrote: »
    You do understand the concept of "bulletproof", right?

    There are different levels of bullet proof and you would wish that armed officers guarding our buildings, and ourselves, are issued with armour piecing rounds to stop vehicles.

    As for the commissioner coming in with armed people. If there was no Garda car at the boarder turn around. Its not like driving down is the only way to make contact with a different police force.


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  • #61
    [Deleted User]
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    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    What makes you say that, out of interest like?

    Well it wouldn't be like the media to exaggerate or imagine parts of the story. :rolleyes:


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