Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019

Osmosis Jones · 05-04-2019 11:37PM

Goals:

I actually thought this was a scuffed finish at first, deflection or something, but it's actually great:

Penalty shout:

Loved this header from Keita almost as much as his one for the goal:

And finally, I'm sure you all thought I was joking when I said this:

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Who wants to join me in over-analysing Keita every time he chests the ball

But here it is, the much awaited Naby Keita chest compilation:

shamrock55 · 05-04-2019 11:41PM

dirkmeister wrote: »

Highlights on now!

Going to have to record the end of “In the Line of Fire”.

Love that film

martyos121 · 05-04-2019 11:42PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Have we anyone close to the yellow card limit ?

There’s a few alright, but as long as they aren’t provoked in here they should hopefully avoid the 2 week ban. We need everyone posting for the final stretch of the season.

shamrock55 · 05-04-2019 11:43PM

That's actually mo's best goal for Liverpool, it was absolutely class, brilliant brilliant goal

qm1bv4p8i92aoj · 05-04-2019 11:43PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Who's just above Gerrard in the pic?

Bruno Cheyrou

.G. · 05-04-2019 11:46PM

martyos121 wrote:

Thereâ€™s a few alright, but as long as they arenâ€™t provoked in here they should hopefully avoid the 2 week ban. We need everyone posting for the final stretch of the season.

Fabinho has the most with 6, after game 32 you need 15 for a ban. We're cool.

Edit :I should have read that right before replying!

noodler · 05-04-2019 11:51PM

Augme wrote: »

I think tonight highlighted why Henderson should be used primarily from the bench from next season. He's excellent off the time due to his energy and his ability to play a solid attack role or defensive role. Whether you are winning or losing a game he would be excellent to introduce. If he started tonight I think he would have been fairly poor and struggled against Saints pressing. Once they were tired it was the ideal situation for him.

I find that bizarre tbh.

The midfield was completely unbalanced and Henderson had to come on to correct it.

If anything this game showed why he has to start.

xabi · 05-04-2019 11:54PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Love that film

Me too, what line of fire though?

Augme · 05-04-2019 11:54PM

noodler wrote: »

I find that bizarre tbh.

The midfield was completely unbalanced and Henderson had to come on to correct it.

If anything this game showed why he has to start.

Our midfield has been unbalanced plenty of times when he has started.

noodler · 05-04-2019 11:57PM

Augme wrote: »

Our midfield has been unbalanced plenty of times when he has started.

Not to the point where we are being overrun.

It has to be better to be solid and overreliant on the front three than watch us second to every ball and constantly on the back foot.

Bother are a bit unbalanced but christ I'll take the first every day of the week.

shamrock55 · 05-04-2019 11:58PM

Love Southamptons walk out music, I've heard it before but can't think what it is, any ideas?

fyfe79 · 06-04-2019 12:00AM

Spare a thought for the lads planning to finally empty the hard-drive of all those hilarious Klopp is Keegan/Gerrard slip meme's into the Humour thread tonight... had them all selected and ready to go after Long's goal I'd say.

We'll drop points eventually so we'll be bottlers again then, but for now, hang tough.

noodler · 06-04-2019 12:01AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Love Southamptons walk out music, I've heard it before but can't think what it is, any ideas?

I'm only getting this from a quick Google but is it "oh fortuna".?

DrumSteve · 06-04-2019 12:04AM

noodler wrote: »

I'm only getting this from a quick Google but is it "oh fortuna".?

Decent tune, real pity they tried to give everyone in the ground an epileptic fit with that light show though.

~Rebel~ · 06-04-2019 12:06AM

Augme wrote: »

Our midfield has been unbalanced plenty of times when he has started.

Usually when it's both him and Milner though... we look at our best with Fab, Gini, and one from Hendo or Milner.

rob316 · 06-04-2019 12:13AM

Henderson isn't a number 6, he looked a brilliant box to box midfielder under Rodgers but has had his balls clipped by Klopp. He doesn't have the intelligence and discipline to play that role I really wish Klopp would realise that.

shamrock55 · 06-04-2019 12:18AM

noodler wrote: »

I'm only getting this from a quick Google but is it "oh fortuna".?

Yea that's it but it like some mix from some rapper I think

shamrock55 · 06-04-2019 12:21AM

https://youtu.be/dKSJN3WWR3E

I knew it was puff daddy, it's Nás hate me now ft puff daddy

Owl. · 06-04-2019 12:30AM

Big fan of Henderson coming on and playing like a man possessed. More of that please.

Augme · 06-04-2019 12:30AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Usually when it's both him and Milner though... we look at our best with Fab, Gini, and one from Hendo or Milner.

I agree with that. I don't think there is much in it between Henderson, gini and milner in terms of ability. They are all on a very similar level. Fabinho is one who is above all 3 and should be a guranteed starter. I'd have Henderson on the bench because he can make an excellent impact off the bench unlike the other two.

Charlie19 · 06-04-2019 12:40AM

rob316 wrote: »

Henderson isn't a number 6, he looked a brilliant box to box midfielder under Rodgers but has had his balls clipped by Klopp. He doesn't have the intelligence and discipline to play that role I really wish Klopp would realise that.

I don't see where you get this from, he has to be the most disciplined player in the squad and does exactly what Klopp wants.

I agree he's better suited to play in a more advanced role but to say he hasn't got the intelligence is very unfair.

citytillidie · 06-04-2019 12:44AM

Lol no players from the team in 1st would get into the starting 11 of the team in 6th lol

Owl. · 06-04-2019 12:47AM

citytillidie wrote: »

Lol no players from the team in 1st would get into the starting 11 of the team in 6th lol

They sent in one of the dimmer light bulbs tonight.

shamrock55 · 06-04-2019 12:50AM

I absolutely loved Henderson passion when he scored its so infectious

~Rebel~ · 06-04-2019 12:57AM

rob316 wrote: »

Henderson isn't a number 6, he looked a brilliant box to box midfielder under Rodgers but has had his balls clipped by Klopp. He doesn't have the intelligence and discipline to play that role I really wish Klopp would realise that.

It's not his best position, but he's been a fairly excellent 6. The problem has been that if he's 6, since Can left there's no-one to drive through midfield. It's what we thought Keita would do, but hasn't yet.

But he was our 6 week in week out for the first half of the season when we had conceded 7 goals in 16 or so games. If anything, I'd say the discipline he showed in that role is what has gotten him most of his abuse... sitting in that spot at base of the midfield as an outball, switching play with his "sideways passes". They weren't pretty to look at, but he made bloody sure we kept the ball, and kept pushing that pressure on. He was always the one dictating where the defensive line began, never letting space open up for the opposition, so it became a constant ever-tightening screw pushing them deeper and deeper.

Augme wrote: »

I agree with that. I don't think there is much in it between Henderson, gini and milner in terms of ability. They are all on a very similar level. Fabinho is one who is above all 3 and should be a guranteed starter. I'd have Henderson on the bench because he can make an excellent impact off the bench unlike the other two.

Yeah, I can see that alright, though i'd say Milner has been pretty effective off the bench plenty of times. I'd nearly just swap them out for each other game by game, since it's a high-intensity role usually, and it preserves their legs.

Gini is just a different thing altogether, I wouldn't put him in with Milner and Hendo... Gini offers something they don't - the ability to take the ball under pressure and turn his man and find a more attacking pass. He's a great man for turning defence to attack very quickly, and relieving the pressure of an opposition press.

Ideally i'd see our midfield 3 as;
Fabinho - the breaker, and builder at 6. Calming things down, stopping attacks, and looking for the simple ball where it's there, but with the ability to pick out a defence splitter from 40 yards too.
Gini - the fulcrum who hangs around 10 yards further than Fab, back to their goal, always available to take the ball and turn, or else drawing in a man and playing a simple pass back to Fabs feet to play a longer ball into the vacated space.
Henderson/Milner - The runner, all action player that harries off the ball, and pushes forward on the ball. Covers defensively for a fullback who's pushed on, and provides an option wide for a winger who's come inside.

charolais0153 · 06-04-2019 01:27AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

It's not his best position, but he's been a fairly excellent 6. The problem has been that if he's 6, since Can left there's no-one to drive through midfield. It's what we thought Keita would do, but hasn't yet.

But he was our 6 week in week out for the first half of the season when we had conceded 7 goals in 16 or so games. If anything, I'd say the discipline he showed in that role is what has gotten him most of his abuse... sitting in that spot at base of the midfield as an outball, switching play with his "sideways passes". They weren't pretty to look at, but he made bloody sure we kept the ball, and kept pushing that pressure on. He was always the one dictating where the defensive line began, never letting space open up for the opposition, so it became a constant ever-tightening screw pushing them deeper and deeper.

Yeah, I can see that alright, though i'd say Milner has been pretty effective off the bench plenty of times. I'd nearly just swap them out for each other game by game, since it's a high-intensity role usually, and it preserves their legs.

Gini is just a different thing altogether, I wouldn't put him in with Milner and Hendo... Gini offers something they don't - the ability to take the ball under pressure and turn his man and find a more attacking pass. He's a great man for turning defence to attack very quickly, and relieving the pressure of an opposition press.

Ideally i'd see our midfield 3 as;
Fabinho - the breaker, and builder at 6. Calming things down, stopping attacks, and looking for the simple ball where it's there, but with the ability to pick out a defence splitter from 40 yards too.
Gini - the fulcrum who hangs around 10 yards further than Fab, back to their goal, always available to take the ball and turn, or else drawing in a man and playing a simple pass back to Fabs feet to play a longer ball into the vacated space.
Henderson/Milner - The runner, all action player that harries off the ball, and pushes forward on the ball. Covers defensively for a fullback who's pushed on, and provides an option wide for a winger who's come inside.

No room for aoc,keita,lallana,shaq??

ElTel · 06-04-2019 01:36AM

Charlie19 wrote: »

I don't see where you get this from, he has to be the most disciplined player in the squad and does exactly what Klopp wants.

I agree he's better suited to play in a more advanced role but to say he hasn't got the intelligence is very unfair.

Bang on. It takes some fortitude and restraint to play so reserved in that holding role in our system. He's been getting stick off many (including me) but he's a fantastic captain and pro.

Loved Firmino's performance tonight especially his clearing headers when we defended corners. I still think we're too nice in the tackling department but that's part of the Klopp plan I suppose. Hey, subs befor the 60min mark too!

It's another win and Mo has got the 50 PL goal monkey off his back with his best goal yet imo.

Onwards we go. Loving it.

Utopia Parkway · 06-04-2019 01:40AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

I absolutely loved Henderson passion when he scored its so infectious

Gotta love an angry celebration.

Nerdlingr · 06-04-2019 02:08AM

Our best midfield has to be Fabinho and Henderson ... and one other.
I've said it before but you don't get to be captain of Liverpool if you're not an outstanding player. I'm amazed to see, even now, that fans still don't see what he brings to the team. The guy is an unbelievable footballer with so much passion and energy for our club yet still keeps getting the put downs.
Would absolutely love to see him lift the league trophy in May to finally shut the haters up.

Fromvert · 06-04-2019 02:10AM

Augme wrote: »

I think tonight highlighted why Henderson should be used primarily from the bench from next season. He's excellent off the time due to his energy and his ability to play a solid attack role or defensive role. Whether you are winning or losing a game he would be excellent to introduce. If he started tonight I think he would have been fairly poor and struggled against Saints pressing. Once they were tired it was the ideal situation for him.

Him and Fabinho are great off the bench. Both make huge impacts from the bench when the other team are tired. Or you play both because they're at their best when someone is behind them and they can press. Henderson came on and we played a lot more aggressive with the press. Sadly some fans still can't see what Henderson brings to the team.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019

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