Who is/was Ireland's most famous sports star?

odyssey06 · 27-03-2019 02:12PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Do you know what MMA is? It's an amalgamation of Boxing, Jiu Jitsu, Karate, Sambo, amateur wrestling among others. Some of these are literally thousands of years old. They're not only sports, they're Olympic sports. Olympians have competed in MMA.

They haven't competed at the Olympics *at* MMA though?

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 02:14PM

pimpmyhat wrote: »

Yes but had two Brazilians been asked in the 1960s /70s I'm sure they would of known of George Best then.

Only if they followed European Club football, which wouldn't have been common. They've enough football going on over there to keep them busy and there was no internet to follow matches.

pimpmyhat wrote: »

If two Brazilians were to be asked in 2070 did they know of McGregor they probably wouldn't &#55357;&#56832;

MMA is huge in Brazil. One of the cornerstones of MMA is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, which (surprisingly) comes from Brazil. They're very proud of it.

You picked poor examples

shamrock55 · 27-03-2019 02:15PM

At the moment I'd say Katie taylor

Ush1 · 27-03-2019 02:15PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It’s a sad reflection on society that cage fighting is even counted as a sport. The almost pornographic desire from its fans to see blood spilled, faces kicked, and bones broken. That primal need for violence they cannot control. The unresolved anger issues.

Does it make you feel emasculated to see real men?

Ush1 · 27-03-2019 02:21PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Sure plenty of journeymen fighters have went the distance with Mayweather when he was in his prime. I'm given to understand Mcgregor was coughing up a lung with exhaustion after a few rounds and Mayweather didn't have to break sweat - despite the fact he's been chillin' out for a few years eating Cheetos.

Like I say, he's hardly a 'sports' star - shouldn't be in the conversation TBH.

How do you think Mayweather would get on in an MMA fight in a cage with McGregor?

It sure as f*ck wouldn't go 11 rounds!:pac:

Cienciano · 27-03-2019 02:25PM

McGregor definitely.

tototoe · 27-03-2019 02:26PM

pleas advice wrote: »

Inspired by another thread here, who do you think would make the list?

I'd have Roy Keane at the top, followed by Rory McIlroy and Brian O'Driscoll, who else would make the top 5?

Brian O'Driscoll ( as good as he was) is very far from world famous.

begbysback · 27-03-2019 02:53PM

xckjoo wrote: »

MMA is huge in Brazil. One of the cornerstones of MMA is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, which (surprisingly) comes from Brazil. They're very proud of it.

You picked poor examples

This means nothing, French fries anyone?

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 02:59PM

begbysback wrote: »

This means nothing, French fries anyone?

What?

The Tetrarch · 27-03-2019 03:10PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Three most famous by a long distance are
(i) McGregor
(ii) McIlroy
(iii) Eoin Morgan.

No-one else comes close to these.

I had to look up (iii). Never heard of him.
McGregor would be infamous.
Liam Brady would be well known, more imo than Roy Keane.
Sean Kelly would be the most famous Irish sports person.

begbysback · 27-03-2019 03:16PM

xckjoo wrote: »

What?

French fries originated in Belgium

Edgware · 27-03-2019 03:19PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

I had to look up (iii). Never heard of him.
McGregor would be infamous.
Liam Brady would be well known, more imo than Roy Keane.
Sean Kelly would be the most famous Irish sports person.

Not everyone follows the M.E.P.s

27-03-2019 03:20PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Sean Kelly would be the most famous Irish sports person.

Absolutely not.

Diceicle · 27-03-2019 03:22PM

Who is/was Ireland's most famous sports star?

Most famous sports star in Ireland? Roy Keane (probably)
Most famous sports star Ireland has produced? Conor McGregor (without question)

Go to Russia, the Philippines or wherever and ask about Katie Taylor, Sean Kelly or any other sports star (with a possible exception of McIlroy) and I would wager you'd be met with blank stares almost every time. McGregors name is far more recognizable.

The Tetrarch · 27-03-2019 03:24PM

McGregor is not known for sport.
He is known for bad behaviour.

salmocab · 27-03-2019 03:33PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

McGregor is not known for sport.
He is known for bad behaviour.

If he wasn’t very famous from a sports point of view you would never hear of his bad behavior

yourdeadwright · 27-03-2019 03:46PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

UFC is popular amongst two main elements - criminals, and relatively young men with anger issues. There’s billions of people on this planet who have never heard of it, never watched one of those boring cage fights, or ever had the displeasure of seeing that gurning moron, McGregor.

Not a huge fan myself but the above is so wrong,

Combat sports are huge in so many countries around the world, eg Russia ,Brazil ,USA

You may be right about Irish fans but not on a world wide level

I'd say 80 % of people who practise Martial arts world wide would be aware of the UFC and its top star's

I'd bet ever college wrestler in the United States knows who McGregor is ,

Its a strange one because its not just MMA people who know Connor it people in boxing, wrestling, Bjj, sambo , Thai boxing, Judo they would all have heard of him ,

feargale · 27-03-2019 03:49PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

No convinced. Big deal in the British Isles, never played in the world cup. Would an average Brazilian know him?

Alot of great players never made the World Cup. He himself said that if he had been born ugly Pele would never have been heard of.

yourdeadwright · 27-03-2019 03:50PM

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Hakan Sukur? Turkey finished 3rd

The Bull of the Bosphorus, what a man

xckjoo · 27-03-2019 03:55PM

begbysback wrote: »

French fries originated in Belgium

So what does that have to do with the fact that MMA and BJJ are huge in Brazil? Nothing? Exactly.

odyssey06 · 27-03-2019 03:56PM

McGregor is also disqualified by virtue of being the self declared most notorious, not the most famous, surely?
:_)

LordBasil · 27-03-2019 03:56PM

McGregor, for reasons already outlined.

Also Roy Keane, the Saipan Saga made global headlines in 2002.

odyssey06 · 27-03-2019 03:59PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Sean Kelly would be the most famous Irish sports person.

Sean Kelly is a legend in cycling, but even in the 80s would have only been heard of in Ireland, the major European cycling countries e.g. Belgium, France, Italy, Spain; and in the cycling communities in other countries, which is a niche sport.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 27-03-2019 04:02PM

Roy Keane was probably just as famous as McGregor, if not more so. Many people here are judging McGregor's fame by his popularity in the US. KeanE didn't get that kind of attention from Americans, but he was definitely known in any country where soccer was a popular sport.

27-03-2019 04:06PM

I think potentially another way to gauge someone's fame is asking different generations. Would your parents know who someone is, that you know? Would your grandparents? Would a 10 year old?

If it goes across generations, it's a good clue. My 8 year old nephew would know who Conor McGregor is. So would my mother. I think my grandmother probably would too. Not many other sports stars would tick all those boxes.

My nan and mother would know Mike Tyson but the child wouldn't. The child and myself would know Neymar but my grandmother wouldn't.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 27-03-2019 04:06PM

In relation to Robbie Keane, back in 2013 and 2014, he was the only Irish sportsperson people in Asia and South America wanted to talk about. Again, we can't judge global fame by what Americans think.

begbysback · 27-03-2019 04:08PM

Omackeral wrote: »

I think potentially another way to gauge someone's fame is asking different generations. Would your parents know who someone is, that you know? Would your grandparents? Would a 10 year old?

If it goes across generations, it's a good clue. My 8 year old nephew would know who Conor McGregor is. So would my mother. I think my grandmother probably would too. Not many other sports stars would tick all those boxes.

My nan and mother would know Mike Tyson but the child wouldn't. The child and myself would know Neymar but my grandmother wouldn't.

Your 8 yr old, mother and nan all know you, this then means your are more famous than Tyson, Neymar and Mcgregor.

Legend

Rubberchikken · 27-03-2019 04:09PM

christy ring.

The_Kew_Tour · 27-03-2019 04:12PM

If your going by fame then Sean Kelly has be up there.

Was not a Sports person in Europe who did not know who he was in 80s and early 90s

salmocab · 27-03-2019 04:16PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

In relation to Robbie Keane, back in 2013 and 2014, he was the only Irish sportsperson people in Asia and South America wanted to talk about. Again, we can't judge global fame by what Americans think.

Think your the only one that’s bringing America into it really. The likes of MC Gregor and McIroy are famous all over Mc Gregor in particular but as people pointed out earlier Eoin Morgan would be very well known in some very big countries with colossal populations and relatively unknown here.

Who is/was Ireland's most famous sports star?

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