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John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,342 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    How exactly has it got more boring?


    It's a hell of a lot more boring to watch. The standard of play has declined as has the overall calibre of player. The league of Ireland now would rank, at most, a level below the Nationwide Conference in England. In the eighties the best Irish sides, although all amateur, would be on a par with the best of the old third division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Therein lies the problem of a massive amount of non-LOI fans. All the solutions and none of the input. Proposing solutions costing hundreds of thousands, with their hands firmly outside their pockets. Most clubs are on the breadline. It's all pub talk until you actually do something about it.

    Clubs are always trying out new ideas. Take for instance the Bob Marley Bohs jersey, I say you as with all non-LOI supporters (and probably lots of LOI as well) had a good chuckle at that. It is the best selling Bohs jersey of all time, and counting.

    Even if you aren't directly clashing with a EPL game you are still competing, it is not that that is stopping people from attending.

    BTW my club has just sold out it's 4th game in a row, a team of part-timers. We have seen a huge upturn in support around the team the last couple of years, with a great buzz around the place. All driven by volunteers, community initiatives, a real connection with the local community. Not one Marquee signing in sight.

    What's with the weird defensive attitude? Accusing me of laughing at the jersey they released when you know nothing about me. I was a fan of that jersey

    I've been to numerous LOI games. Work and family commitments unfortunately prevent me from attending as often as I would like.

    You're living up to the poor stereotype of the LOI fan that exists among people who won't support the league. Drop the chip from the shoulder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Well Niall Quinn won't be CEO giving a big scathing on the FAI and Delaney.

    On Virgin Sports ATM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Niall Quinn spot on in what he's saying. How I wish he was in the role.

    Says he won't be applying for the CEO role as he doesn't think the old one has left. Also says he'd worry about the well intentioned person applying for the post with the shadow of the old one around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Yes I have but I'm hardly going to plaster it here.

    What I clearly meant was is this story being reported by any reputable source anywhere or is it just hearsay on whatsapp?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    This is doing the rounds on WhatsApp

    Fill the Aviva. Support the team. No protest before the game ends. When the game ends REFUSE TO LEAVE. STAY IN YOUR SEATS. It will cost the FAI a fortune in security, Gardai, maintenance staff all having to be kept past their contracted finish times. The lights will have to be kept on for health and safety reasons. DON'T LEAVE UNTIL THE ENTIRE BOARD RESIGN. Bring the soup and sambos


    And posting it here is only making sure JD, Joe McGlue and co all know whats being planned......:rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Hope you all have your tennis balls.....that was the FAI cry to the press this morning so that they have an excuse to search fans entering the stadium.



    Lads the FAI are posting in and reading this thread....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    And posting it here is only making sure JD, Joe McGlue and co all know whats being planned......:rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Hope you all have your tennis balls.....that was the FAI cry to the press this morning so that they have an excuse to search fans entering the stadium.



    Lads the FAI are posting in and reading this thread....

    I’ve deleted the original post so - delete your one which quotes it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭secman


    that deluded man will think its a show of support for him !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    secman wrote: »
    that deluded man will think its a show of support for him !


    He nigh buy a few cans as a show of support !!!!:D:D:D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    What's with the weird defensive attitude? Accusing me of laughing at the jersey they released when you know nothing about me. I was a fan of that jersey

    I've been to numerous LOI games. Work and family commitments unfortunately prevent me from attending as often as I would like.

    You're living up to the poor stereotype of the LOI fan that exists among people who won't support the league. Drop the chip from the shoulder

    There is no defensiveness, I am challenging you to turn "why don't they do this" to "why don't we do this".

    It's not really much of a chip on the shoulder. If someone comes in to your house and goes "you should get rid of that oven and put in a state of the art SMEG range, how can you be expected to compete with the Michellen Star restaurant down the road if not?"

    It might be a bizarre comparison, but as a fan of a LOI team (not a LOI fan, I hate everyone but Bohs) that's what it feels like. I'm sure a lot feel the same. Is it chip on the shoulder? Should I smile and nod? Or should I call you out on it because I have to live in the house with a cooker I can't afford when all my guests get bored and go back to the restaurant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    They just jokingly made mention of tennis balls to Jon Walters on VM Sport.

    Might be only one way to get them into the stadium now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    chicorytip wrote: »
    It's a hell of a lot more boring to watch. The standard of play has declined as has the overall calibre of player. The league of Ireland now would rank, at most, a level below the Nationwide Conference in England. In the eighties the best Irish sides, although all amateur, would be on a par with the best of the old third division.

    I suppose that's why we've had two teams qualify for the group stages of the Europa League in the last decade then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Pedro K wrote: »
    I suppose that's why we've had two teams qualify for the group stages of the Europa League in the last decade then...

    I'd leave it. Responding to criticism of LOI is now seen as chips on shoulder, especially when it's such exaggerated, uninformed criticism. It's fine to take shots at it but how dare someone criticise back. But that merry go round has been done to death here anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    A board which adjusts its rules around retirement age to keep certain members on the board are only in it for the money.

    If they weren't in it for the money they would have retired when they were supposed too. Its not just Delaney but the whole board.

    I was in a hotel where an AGM took place. No expense spared. They gatecrashed the wedding too but wouldn't let kids in to get autographs. A few rte sport staff and pundits were tagging along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    chicorytip wrote: »
    It's a hell of a lot more boring to watch. The standard of play has declined as has the overall calibre of player. The league of Ireland now would rank, at most, a level below the Nationwide Conference in England. In the eighties the best Irish sides, although all amateur, would be on a par with the best of the old third division.

    How do you explain Dundalk being ranked 172 in Europe ( ahead of Aberdeen. Rangers, Hibernians. Strum Graz, Panathanaikos etc etc ? )

    https://www.footballseeding.com/club-ranking/a2018-2019/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Mocha Joe


    irishgeo wrote: »
    A board which adjusts its rules around retirement age to keep certain members on the board are only in it for the money.

    If they weren't in it for the money they would have retired when they were supposed too. Its not just Delaney but the whole board.

    I was in a hotel where an AGM took place. No expense spared. They gatecrashed the wedding too but wouldn't let kids in to get autographs. A few rte sport staff and lundits were tagging along.

    Which sport staff and pundits?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    irishgeo wrote: »
    A few rte sport staff and lundits were tagging along.

    And this is a problem too. The heat usually dissipates over JD as he is cozy with some journalists. The talk about him seems alot more intense then iv ever seen it so hopefully he will cave and quit....along with the board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Mocha Joe wrote: »
    irishgeo wrote: »
    A board which adjusts its rules around retirement age to keep certain members on the board are only in it for the money.

    If they weren't in it for the money they would have retired when they were supposed too. Its not just Delaney but the whole board.

    I was in a hotel where an AGM took place. No expense spared. They gatecrashed the wedding too but wouldn't let kids in to get autographs. A few rte sport staff and lundits were tagging along.

    Which sport staff and pundits?

    It was a fair few years ago.
    Tony o donoughue, john giles, ray Houghton were the ones i seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    joeysoap wrote: »
    How do you explain Dundalk being ranked 172 in Europe ( ahead of Aberdeen. Rangers, Hibernians. Strum Graz, Panathanaikos etc etc ? )

    https://www.footballseeding.com/club-ranking/a2018-2019/


    Shows what good management team, a good team on the pitch, club owners old and new with a vision and a sh1te stadium can do.....Cmon da Town!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭secman


    Ms Walsh the interim CEO, a qualified solicitor, whom John Delaney said worked closely with the Governance Committee, me thinks too closely, says it all really:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Fella I used to work with went to one of the agms I think in 2015. Said it was one long piss up. Fellas drank so much they were getting sick in the jacks then went back for more.

    The free bar eventually closed at 4 am. Of course JD was in the middle of it all gladhanding everyone. I doubt too many awkward questions were asked of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    secman wrote: »
    Ms Walsh tgs interim CEO, a qualified solicitor, whom John Delaney said worked closely with the Governance Committee, me thinks too closely, says it all really:(


    Being told Fergus O´Dowd and his comittee are doing their homework, speaking to clubs at all levels, Sports Ireland etc.. O´Dowd has already publically said there are a number of members who are gunning for JD and he has already recieved a lot of mail related to the topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Hope you all have your tennis balls.....that was the FAI cry to the press this morning so that they have an excuse to search fans entering the stadium.

    They are not going to search every home fan who enters the ground thoroughly, surely? That'd be madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Berserker wrote: »
    They are not going to search every home fan who enters the ground thoroughly, surely? That'd be madness.


    They will if needs be. They cant afford any media coverage from mass protest within the ground as it would get the sponsors on their backs. They have been searching fans home and away for a while now.....JD publically said he knew nothing about it......:D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,143 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    secman wrote: »
    Ms Walsh the interim CEO, a qualified solicitor, whom John Delaney said worked closely with the Governance Committee, me thinks too closely, says it all really:(

    Was she involved in the decision to bring the attempted injunction against the Sunday Times last week so, is legal advice part of her role with the FAI at present?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    chicorytip wrote: »
    How exactly has it got more boring?


    It's a hell of a lot more boring to watch. The standard of play has declined as has the overall calibre of player. The league of Ireland now would rank, at most, a level below the Nationwide Conference in England. In the eighties the best Irish sides, although all amateur, would be on a par with the best of the old third division.

    I stopped reading at Below Nationwide Confernce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Being told Fergus O´Dowd and his comittee are doing their homework, speaking to clubs at all levels, Sports Ireland etc.. O´Dowd has already publically said there are a number of members who are gunning for JD and he has already recieved a lot of mail related to the topic.
    bit late


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    chicorytip wrote: »
    It's a hell of a lot more boring to watch. The standard of play has declined as has the overall calibre of player. The league of Ireland now would rank, at most, a level below the Nationwide Conference in England. In the eighties the best Irish sides, although all amateur, would be on a par with the best of the old third division.

    That makes absolutely no sense.

    So you're essentially saying that Boreham Wood or Dagenham & Redbridge (and no offence to either team) would win multiple leagues and compete regularly in Europe if they were to join LOI.

    Go away out of that and have a word with yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    And therein lies the problem with a massive amount of LOI fans. A refusal to accept that they need to try something different in order to attract people to games. The Marquee player thing is just one element if what I suggested. It might not be the right way to go about things, or could be the thing that drives attendence increases. But you will never know due to the reluctance of so many around the league to change.

    While you're correct that bigger leagues are available just a short flight away, that fallsw to acknowledge that the LOI runs a different season to most major leagues, and even the weekends when it does clash, a lot of the fixtures don't directly clash with EPL games.

    The clubs are trying things but they get no help from their association and these things cost money one way or another, just looking at Rovers we've tried the marquee players thing, tried going around the local schools, and currently there's free kids season tickets, a polish night, and trying to go at it from getting kids playing for the club but all these things cost money and the FAI just take money from the league don't put any in
    Dots1982 wrote: »
    Maybe but I’m not sure there’s a viable product there even if it was well run.

    The LOI has never really been able to make money or get the public interest it needs.

    Now hopefully it can but the fact remains it never has and that’s under Delaney, the FAI or when it ran itself and the likes of shelbourne bankrupted themselves.

    The last 30 years the FAI haven't given two ****s about the league completely hamstringing it. Louis ****ing Kilcoyne was allowed to run the FAI for **** sake says it all
    chicorytip wrote: »
    There is too great a disparity between the haves and have nots. The standard may be better in Dundalk and Cork but these are fully professional clubs very well funded and supported. The rest are nowhere, absolute minnows. This makes things boring. It was a far, far better league back in the days when it's ethos was entirely amateur.

    Fact you can only name two clubs says it all about your "knowledge" of lack thereof of the league.
    chicorytip wrote: »
    It's a hell of a lot more boring to watch. The standard of play has declined as has the overall calibre of player. The league of Ireland now would rank, at most, a level below the Nationwide Conference in England. In the eighties the best Irish sides, although all amateur, would be on a par with the best of the old third division.

    You take a knock to the head recently? Cause that's some of the biggest load of ****e I've seen in a while.
    You open by basically admitting that you just don't watch the league at all because the standard of play far exceeds even league 1 teams who just hoof it, that's why players from the league struggle when they g to low down clubs but don't when they go to top end clubs, if anything they're too good technically, if you bothered your arse to go watch the games you'd see that the likes of Jack Byrne, Dylan Watts, Brandon Kavanagh, Aaron Bolger, even Lee Grace at centre back play beautiful football and that's just players from my club there's tonnes around the league that are the same. when managers come over to play european games against LOI teams one of the things they all say is that they're shocked by the quality of football because they're expecting english hoof ball but end up chasing shadows until, if they do at all, they cop on. There's a reason that Man City have recently bent over backwards to sign a player from the league and are desperately trying to make a connection with the club not the other way round. Even LOI underage games the ball being played puts english counterparts to shame, and results are showing this.

    As for the 80s bull****, players were going to and from the Spanish, English, Belgian, French top tiers in that period.

    So pull the other one it's got ****in bells on it.


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