Drink driving-virtue signaling gone mad

Guy:Incognito · 25-03-2019 01:48AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

I'm wrong you clearly said the average person processes one unit of alcohol per hour a pint is 2 units. I said if you had 8 cans you cant drive for 16 hours. 8 x 2 is 16 if I remember basic maths. Maybe you should learn basic reading and comprehension again

Are you downing all those cans one after the other in the space of a minute or 2?

Maybe you should learn basic reading and comprehension again.

If you drink 8 cans in 4 hours, the first 2 cans are gone from the system by the time you stop drinking *

* average person.

Necro · 25-03-2019 01:49AM

Just don't drink if you know you have to drive the next day.

It's not bloody rocket science.

The obsession we have here in Ireland with drink is ridiculous.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 01:49AM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

The crux of this is that I understand that the body processes alcohol from the start of the session.

Not according to the government or the radio ads etc . I dont condone someone having a pint and driving home. I worked in a bar and fought with people over it. Ibe walked home rather than take a lift off a friend. But I cant see how someone cant have a few beers at the weekend and sleep and be unable to drive for 16 hours after their last beer. I understand that the calculators are just ass covering but still someone that goes out to commit drink driving after being in the pub cannot be the same as someone who has beers gets a taxi home has a chipper goes asleep wakes up has a coffee and gets in the car clearly the way it has to be dealt with is different.

Gimme A Pound · 25-03-2019 01:50AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Em... What does virtue signalling mean?

Necro wrote: »

I'd also like to know this. Or preferably for people to stop using the stupid fcuking term.

It refers to when people are all talk about how something has to be done about something (but by others) or they might pay lip service but not actually do anything.

It's a valid criticism imo but of course the term gets misused frequently.

AtomicHorror · 25-03-2019 01:53AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

Not according to the government or the radio ads etc . I dont condone someone having a pint and driving home. I worked in a bar and fought with people over it. Ibe walked home rather than take a lift off a friend. But I cant see how someone cant have a few beers at the weekend and sleep and be unable to drive for 16 hours after their last beer. I understand that the calculators are just ass covering but still someone that goes out to commit drink driving after being in the pub cannot be the same as someone who has beers gets a taxi home has a chipper goes asleep wakes up has a coffee and gets in the car clearly the way it has to be dealt with is different.

If the alcohol has left their system, it will be. Otherwise, why should it be?

Twenty Grand · 25-03-2019 01:55AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

I'm wrong you clearly said the average person processes one unit of alcohol per hour a pint is 2 units. I said if you had 8 cans you cant drive for 16 hours. 8 x 2 is 16 if I remember basic maths. Maybe you should learn basic reading and comprehension again

Woah, no need to bite my head off. Relax yourself.
This is your post:

Maxed-irl wrote: »

if you have say 8 pints you cant drive for 16 hours after your last drink.

You're wrong saying 16 hours after your LAST drink.
If I had 8 pints spaced out by 2 hours throughout the day then I could drive 2 hours after my last drink.
That's all I'm saying. No need to jump down my throat.

alan partridge aha · 25-03-2019 02:00AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

Not according to the government or the radio ads etc . I dont condone someone having a pint and driving home. I worked in a bar and fought with people over it. Ibe walked home rather than take a lift off a friend. But I cant see how someone cant have a few beers at the weekend and sleep and be unable to drive for 16 hours after their last beer. I understand that the calculators are just ass covering but still someone that goes out to commit drink driving after being in the pub cannot be the same as someone who has beers gets a taxi home has a chipper goes asleep wakes up has a coffee and gets in the car clearly the way it has to be dealt with is different.

So when does one start processing it at the end of the night? That's bullsh×t and lies.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:02AM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

So when does one start processing it at the end of the night? That's bullsh×t and lies.

As they state it can continue to rise for up to 3 hours after your last drink so if you went on a day long bender your body wont process it until you finish drinking. This is what the campaign states.

Twenty Grand · 25-03-2019 02:04AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

still someone that goes out to commit drink driving after being in the pub cannot be the same as someone who has beers gets a taxi home has a chipper goes asleep wakes up has a coffee and gets in the car clearly the way it has to be dealt with is different.

Why?

Commiting drink driving is the act of driving while under the influence.

Whether it's that night or the morning after makes no difference. If woken up drunk and bleary eyed plenty of times after a heavy night. A shower and breakfast helps but I'm still drunk

Maxed-irl wrote: »

As they state it can continue to rise for up to 3 hours after your last drink so if you went on a day long bender your body wont process it until you finish drinking. This is what the campaign states.

It takes a while for alcohol to enter your system so it's true that your level can continue to rise.
It's why it's incredibly dangerous to drink till you pass out. You're still getting drunk while you're unconscious.

Which makes it all the more relevant why you shouldn't drive the morning after a heavy night.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:06AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are you downing all those cans one after the other in the space of a minute or 2?

Maybe you should learn basic reading and comprehension again.

If you drink 8 cans in 4 hours, the first 2 cans are gone from the system by the time you stop drinking *

* average person.

Read how its calculated. The body takes 1 hour to process 1 standard drink. Alcohol levels can rise for 3 hours after you stop drinking. Alcohol is processed after your last drink. Clearly this is what is been said on TV radio etc. As stated before basic reading and comprehension has once again escaped the Irish youth

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:08AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Why?

Commiting drink driving is the act of driving while under the influence.

Whether it's that night or the morning after makes no difference. If woken up drunk and bleary eyed plenty of times after a heavy night. A shower and breakfast helps but I'm still drunk

So someone who has their pints goes to bed wakes up has breakfast etc is the same as a person who had 10 pints and tried to drive home.

alan partridge aha · 25-03-2019 02:09AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

As they state it can continue to rise for up to 3 hours after your last drink so if you went on a day long bender your body wont process it until you finish drinking. This is what the campaign states.

Fair enough, you're the messenger and I'm not shooting you, but we're not talking about day long benders rather 3hrs.
Day long benders could be 15 -20 pints and who can afford that.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:12AM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Fair enough, you're the messenger and I'm not shooting you, but we're not talking about day long benders rather 3hrs.
Day long benders could be 15 -20 pints and who can afford that.

I'm just going on the average person being at home buying an 8 pack say starting at 8 finishing at 1they cant drive until 5 the next day. That's bull if you ask me. Anyone who intentionally drinks and drives deserves to be locked up. I'm saying that if someone had a few beers at home and got in car next day potentially they're over but they're not the same as someone who's driving home from a pub unless they were on a bender

alan partridge aha · 25-03-2019 02:15AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

I'm just going on the average person being at home buying an 8 pack say starting at 8 finishing at 1they cant drive until 5 the next day. That's bull if you ask me. Anyone who intentionally drinks and drives deserves to be locked up. I'm saying that if someone had a few beers at home and got in car next day potentially they're over but they're not the same as someone who's driving home from a pub unless they were on a bender

The end result for me is that I'm defo buying a tester.

Twenty Grand · 25-03-2019 02:15AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

Read how its calculated. The body takes 1 hour to process 1 standard drink. Alcohol levels can rise for 3 hours after you stop drinking. Alcohol is processed after your last drink. Clearly this is what is been said on TV radio etc. As stated before basic reading and comprehension has once again escaped the Irish youth

I understand that quote is from the RSA but you're not understanding it. When you drink enough to surpass the ability of alcohol to be eliminated from your blood through liver metabolism your BAC will rise for up to 3 hours.

If I drink a naggin my blood doesn't go from zero to max alcohol in 5 mins. It ramps up over time, while my liver is also working to break it down.

Twenty Grand · 25-03-2019 02:17AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

So someone who has their pints goes to bed wakes up has breakfast etc is the same as a person who had 10 pints and tried to drive home.

Someone who has 10 pints could be so blind drunk they can't turn on a car.

Someone who wakes up could be drunk enough their reactions are slowed to a point where they're a danger.

Both are drunk drivers.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:17AM

I'm having a few beers tonight watched the golf etc as I dont work mondays. I've to drive tomorrow but by the law I cant. I must get a breathalyser just to check as i dont want to lose my license. I agree with the law being strict against drink driving but my point is the guards are doing more breath tests in the am to catch more people for €€€. I'd prefer to see more night time testing as that's when the majority of dangerous piss heads be on the road

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:19AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

I understand that quote is from the RSA but you're not understanding it. When you drink enough to surpass the ability of alcohol to be eliminated from your blood through liver metabolism your BAC will rise for up to 3 hours.

If I drink a naggin my blood doesn't go from zero to max alcohol in 5 mins. It ramps up over time, while my liver is also working to break it down.

I know its generic to cover their arses

Twenty Grand · 25-03-2019 02:19AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

I'm having a few beers tonight watched the golf etc as I dont work mondays. I've to drive tomorrow but by the law I cant. I must get a breathalyser just to check as i dont want to lose my license. I agree with the law being strict against drink driving but my point is the guards are doing more breath tests in the am to catch more people for €€€. I'd prefer to see more night time testing as that's when the majority of dangerous piss heads be on the road

Life is short, enjoy yourself. A few beers is something to be enjoyed. You'll more than likely be fine to drive in the morning.

Necro · 25-03-2019 02:23AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

So someone who has their pints goes to bed wakes up has breakfast etc is the same as a person who had 10 pints and tried to drive home.

Over the limit is over the limit.

That's why we have laws governing this behaviour. If you have to drive the next day, don't drink.

It's really that simple.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:25AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Life is short, enjoy yourself. A few beers is something to be enjoyed. You'll more than likely be fine to drive in the morning.

Haha I know I'll be ok but generalising it is a bit ****. I agree I've probable been over the limit after weddings or something like that but I've slept and thought I was ok but to state that I'm not if I'm at home and drink 8 beers over 8 hours is a bit wrong.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 02:28AM

Necro wrote: »

Over the limit is over the limit.

That's why we have laws governing this behaviour. If you have to drive the next day, don't drink.

It's really that simple.

Yeah I agree with ya I'm saying if I've 8 cans over a few hours and sleep etc I dont need 16 hours from bottle to throttle

eagle eye · 25-03-2019 02:53AM

I'd say the majority of people are well capable of driving a car responsibly after three pints.
Problem is that there are people who aren't capable so we need to have laws to prevent them from driving.
I'm all for the French idea where you must have a breathaliser in your car.

stoneill · 25-03-2019 08:35AM

vandriver wrote: »

'...I've lost too many friends over the years as the result of drunk drivers...'

Really?

One - One person lost is too many.

25-03-2019 09:32AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

Read how its calculated. The body takes 1 hour to process 1 standard drink. Alcohol levels can rise for 3 hours after you stop drinking. Alcohol is processed after your last drink. Clearly this is what is been said on TV radio etc. As stated before basic reading and comprehension has once again escaped the Irish youth

You are 100% wrong so stop, you are confusing people.

The minute you start drinking your body starts processing alcohol, why in earth would it wait until you finish? How does your body know you have finished?

If your body didn’t process it as you drink we wouldn’t be able to drink half as much. So you start counting from when you start drinking not when you finish.

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 10:26AM

Emiliano Many Cardinal wrote: »

You are 100% wrong so stop, you are confusing people.

The minute you start drinking your body starts processing alcohol, why in earth would it wait until you finish? How does your body know you have finished?

If your body didn’t process it as you drink we wouldn’t be able to drink half as much. So you start counting from when you start drinking not when you finish.

So you've not heard the ad on the radio that says "after your last drink" maybe I'm wrong but that's what I heard on the radio on a RSA ad. I suppose to be cautious if you've had beer the night before and dont drive if you think you're over.

25-03-2019 10:52AM

Maxed-irl wrote: »

So you've not heard the ad on the radio that says "after your last drink" maybe I'm wrong but that's what I heard on the radio on a RSA ad. I suppose to be cautious if you've had beer the night before and dont drive if you think you're over.

I haven’t heard an RSA ad saying this but if they are they are wrong. It’s simple biology, it’s like saying a car doesn’t start burning petrol until you arrive at your destination.

If you used the “rule” of counting hours since your last drink people would be massively inconvienienced in their lives if they want to go out at night and drive places the next day.

TheIrishGrover · 25-03-2019 11:01AM

Bobtheman wrote: »

I live within a mile of ten pubs. Im really aiming at rural dwellers. Im not against drink driving laws just think they need to be moderated. Tired of virtue signalers who have no issue with the amount of booze we allow to be sold, thus costing god knows what for families/health services etc but wet themselves in virtue over drink drivers?

Ah, OK. So it's not the drink driver's fault? It's the fact that people don't want to limit the amount non-drink drivers can drink.

Understood.

So the fact that there are no laws limiting how much a person can drink (responsibly or irresponsibly) is far far worse than getting behind the wheel of a car intoxicated and potentially killing an innocent person/people.

John_Rambo · 25-03-2019 11:03AM

Emiliano Many Cardinal wrote: »

I’ve seen seen lads on different occasions blow under the limit at times between 9am and noon after anything from 10 to 15 pints the night before finishing up at 2am at the earliest though which really does not tally with the number put out there.

You’ve been a passenger in cars where you’ve witnessed the driver blow under the limit after been out on the lash till 2am at Garda checkpoints or pull-overs?

On a few occasions, all in the morning time?

Maxed-irl · 25-03-2019 11:06AM

Emiliano Many Cardinal wrote: »

I haven’t heard an RSA ad saying this but if they are they are wrong. It’s simple biology, it’s like saying a car doesn’t start burning petrol until you arrive at your destination.

If you used the “rule” of counting hours since your last drink people would be massively inconvienienced in their lives if they want to go out at night and drive places the next day.

I agree with you but that's what they're touting as I said they're probably being over cautious.

Drink driving-virtue signaling gone mad

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