Peugeot 3008 - petrol or diesel?

Salesman is more than likely trying to persuade you because the diesel is less desirable for him on his lot due to a significant drop in people buying diesel cars so far this year compared to last, and the media putting out articles about how diesel is going to be phased out etc etc.

Diesel is very much the norm for this segment though. I can’t see there being an issue selling one down the line.

There’s €2k in it between petrol and diesel AFAIK, if you don’t particularly want diesel then don’t be talked into one. The diesel will likely still be worth more than the petrol down the line but banking on residuals is silly anyway, buy what you want.

I’d wonder why the salesperson wants you to go diesel, it’s not that he’d make loads more money on you or something, he may have knowledge that customers that want them in autos second hand want diesel, or that there are issues with supply, or that the auto is better to drive in diesel than petrol. Surely they gave you reasons?

Just because you did exactly what the OP has questioned here doesn't make us all wrong!

Fact is, 16k is not diesel territory, fact is, there is a market for petrols in this segment, fact is, the petrol engines in them are fairly fuel efficient and fact is, the typical buyer of these cars will have children and actually might care about doing their bit for the future of the planet if at all possible.

Manufacturers are leaning towards petrol where appropriate, many of them are focusing their engine line up around petrol, some are dropping diesel engines from certain models already (not next year or 2025 - now).

Compound this with the fact that when global brands such as Toyota announce they're moving from diesel, media, public perception and everything else will all amplify this and the bread and butter punter will be a sheep and follow the herd or what they heard down the pub.

Yes, there is justification for diesel in lots of cases, no it's not dead but claiming that talking up petrol, PHEV or electric sources in a motoring forum is scaremongering is just madness - particularly at the level of mileage that is the case here.

What's rural driving got to do with it by the way? If anything, that is even more reason to consider petrol as there'll be less stop / start driving conditions.

One of the most daft replies I've read here in a while I have to be honest.

Okay, simple thing here. Big manufacturer decided that diesel is still going to be big seller. So obviously prebuilt diesel models out number petrol.
So salesman is sitting on that stock now and trying to push it. Unfortunately consumers opinion is never counted in when they decided these things. Salesman does not give a **** about resale value for you, he just want to get wrid of stock and make money now. Specially when diesel engines are in very dodgy unknown future state.
So in nutshell, op, buy a car you want, not what sales person wants you to buy.
On different note, if you do go for petrol, I presume it's going to be that 1.2 petrol engine? Have you drove it yourself already before pulling the trigger? I am very pro petrol, but I test drove that engine in Citroen c5 Aircross and it was horrible engine. And I am not bashing it for low power output, I hated it for how it felt. 1.2tsi in something like VW/seat is just so much better, and even that engine is not my cup of tea.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Also you post the same thing on every single thread, buy a diesel if you want, who cares?

Trying to shove it down every single person throat not get a little boring? After all it’s only a fuel....

That’s only allowed for electric cars

ddarcy wrote: »

Well I’d look at it as a numbers game. If you went diesel it looks (assuming manual here in both cases, it looks like auto comes in at about the same numbers too roughly) like you’d get 4.3 l/ 100 km and the petrol gets you 5.2 l/ 100km. Mind you these seem to be a bit bs, but I’d assume that what you get in reality will be the same difference just a bit higher. Using that an an average of 1.50/l of petrol against 1.40/l of diesel it will take you a little over 6 years (minimum) to recoop your costs by going the diesel route. If diesel rises or goes above petrol it will be longer.

Saying that the salesman may be trying to hit his/her monthly or quarterly targets. They may get a bonus for this. So use that to your advantage in negotiating.

My recommendations are:
First drive both but don’t let on what you prefer. As it’s end of the month/ quarter use that to your advantage. If you like the diesel say you prefer the petrol. Get them to match the petrol price.

Second ring around other Peugeot dealers. There’s a chance that a dealer in Sligo or Letterkenny or elsewhere has a petrol in stock and is finding it difficult to move. Most dealers will deliver nationwide now anyways. Use this to your advantage.

Third and most importantly, it’s your money, buy what you want. If the demo petrol suited your needs put an offer in on it etc.

You’re assuming the cars will be worth the same second hand. Ie the diesel will depreciate €2k more than the petrol, which has been pointed out will be effectively dinosaured by the imminent PHEV version.

Petrol all they way at your mileage.
Diesel is dying and resale values will drop sharply into the future because of that.